#metabrainz

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      • outsidecontext[m
        hi
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      • outsidecontext[m
        not much really. early last week I fell sick, and was mostly useless for the rest of the week.
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      • outsidecontext[m
        ok again mostly since yesterday. I looked a bit what we need to do to get a picard 2 release out. zas let's chat about that separately
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      • outsidecontext[m
        also yesterday started looking into the harmony tidal issue kellnerd mentioned. I have it mostly working, with some cases being a bit annoying with their changed API.
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      • outsidecontext[m
        that's all . aerozol , you want to finish the round?
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      • aerozol[m]
        Heyo
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      • aerozol[m]
        Things heating up with work and life this week, so just got the usual stuff done. My misc tasks have built up so it still ends up being a bit (comms, discussions, tickets, style…)
      • 2025-01-27 02753, 2025

      • aerozol[m]
        I checked in on CB spam for the first time in ages and might have found an early contender for review of the year
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      • aerozol[m]
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      • aerozol[m]
        Nothing else that stands out! Take us away reosarevok
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Thanks!
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      • reosarevok[m]
        And thanks all for attending
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      • reosarevok[m]
        zas: are there news about "Hetzner mainboard repl" then?
      • 2025-01-27 02745, 2025

      • zas[m]
        We got a notice from Hetzner, they'll start to replace mainboards on AX102, AX52 servers
      • 2025-01-27 02723, 2025

      • zas[m]
        But since they'll have a lot to do, they'll just alert us 4 hours before, and it starts in Feb
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      • zas[m]
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      • zas[m]
        For us, it means we have to handle that on 4 servers: hendrix, jimmy, yamaoka, randy
      • 2025-01-27 02723, 2025

      • zas[m]
        That is rather critical ones.
      • 2025-01-27 02707, 2025

      • zas[m]
        We can order new servers (but we aren't certain about delays to get them)
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      • mayhem[m]
        given that these are our two DB servers, can we migrate to a new server without downtime?
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      • mayhem[m]
        given that we have two rack-slots right now, that might work ok.
      • 2025-01-27 02712, 2025

      • zas[m]
        Yes, if we can get servers in time, and they don't start by ours... ;)
      • 2025-01-27 02740, 2025

      • mayhem[m]
        well, I suspect that if we opt to get a new server, that they would hold off on fixing ours.
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      • monkey[m]
        > separate email with a scheduled appointment time within a 4-hour window
      • 2025-01-27 02750, 2025

      • monkey[m]
        This reads more like they will send an appointment ahead of time. The 4hour window refers to the appointment, not the notice
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      • reosarevok[m]
        I'd hope so
      • 2025-01-27 02719, 2025

      • zas[m]
        Ah yes, right
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      • zas[m]
        bitmap: if we opt for new servers, downtime is very short right?
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      • monkey[m]
        Doesn't change that we need a solid plan, but at least it won't be sprung on us
      • 2025-01-27 02701, 2025

      • mayhem[m]
        so, downtime or a slower migration. which do we prefer?
      • 2025-01-27 02713, 2025

      • bitmap[m]
        IIRC, we were able to perform a switchover in under 30 mins
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      • zas[m]
        hmmm, they may exchange mainboards faster than that
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      • mayhem[m]
        they'll have lots of practice!
      • 2025-01-27 02715, 2025

      • bitmap[m]
        (the switchover is very fast actually, stopping/restoring traffic to the DB is the slow part)
      • 2025-01-27 02753, 2025

      • zas[m]
        So, new servers or we accept a downtime?
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      • monkey[m]
        Whatever is easiest on you / the tea?
      • 2025-01-27 02733, 2025

      • zas[m]
        in any case, 30 mins downtime min
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      • monkey[m]
        Team*
      • 2025-01-27 02712, 2025

      • bitmap[m]
        if it's under an hour downtime seems acceptable and less work for us
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      • zas[m]
        New servers will cost more time, and we gain nothing (not like they will be faster, they will be the same)
      • 2025-01-27 02726, 2025

      • zas[m]
        I tend to agree
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      • mayhem[m]
        ok by me
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      • zas[m]
        We can perhaps switch between hendrix/jimmy anyway if they don't do both at same time/day
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      • yvanzo[m]
        It seems unlikely.
      • 2025-01-27 02703, 2025

      • yvanzo[m]
        We ordered these two servers with the same config at the same time.
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      • holycow23[m]
        holycow23[m]: Any ideas on what could be the reason behind this
      • 2025-01-27 02716, 2025

      • zas[m]
        Ok, solved then. BTW, it starts in Feb, but they say it can take a year long....
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      • mayhem[m]
        cant hurt to ask them for what we need and if they can't accomodate, we'll fall back
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      • yvanzo[m]
        It would be great to be able to plan the day with them.
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      • zas[m]
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Yeah. I mean, how problematic is the issue? Might they fail entirely before they get to it possibly a year from now? :D
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      • reosarevok[m]
        holycow23: we'll get to you after our meeting :) not long now
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      • zas[m]
        We don't know much about the exact issues
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      • zas[m]
        Anyway, we can move on.
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Ok, if you're happy with that, let's finish with a
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      • reosarevok[m]
        </BANG>>
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      • reosarevok[m]
        ... oops :)
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      • reosarevok[m]
        * \</BANG>
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Thanks again everyone!
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      • monkey[m]
        Thanks reo!
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      • monkey[m]
        My autocorrect wanted to call you "feo"
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Oh, is anyone coming to Brussels for fosdem?
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      • reosarevok[m]
        monkey: little kids and autocorrects never lie
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      • mayhem[m]
        reosarevok[m]: with any luck, lucifer will attend
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      • yvanzo[m]
        zas: after reading their whole docs, it seems more reliable to order a new server
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      • reosarevok[m]
        He told me :)
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Wondering if anyone else is going to be in town for frites
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      • reosarevok[m]
        yvanzo, bitmap: we should schedule a meeting :)
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      • reosarevok[m]
        (not in Brussels, unless you want to)
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      • monkey[m]
        A "call de Brusellas"?
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      • reosarevok[m] slaps monkey with a chicon
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      • bitmap[m]
        reosarevok[m]: are you both available tomorrow?
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      • reosarevok[m]
        I have a call at 15 UTC, I expect to be done by 16
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      • reosarevok[m]
        After that, yes
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      • yvanzo[m]
        zas: The main reason is that the replacement will happen at a random time on a random day, with a short time to get ready for it.
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      • yvanzo[m]
        bitmap, reosarevok: 4pm UTC as usual works for me. Are you available too lucifer?
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      • reosarevok[m]
        zas: something needs a kicking again: https://ci.metabrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-docker-…
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Guess it was just restarting the jenkins container
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      • reosarevok[m]
        But it keeps breaking and it didn't use to, so that's something to investigate I guess?
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Releasing prod
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Done
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      • reosarevok[m]
        bitmap: can you check the blog post?
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      • reosarevok[m]
        (no huge huge rush, still doing docker)
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      • bitmap[m]
        "this release includes the usual small bugs" s/bugs/bug fixes/ maybe 😛
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      • bitmap[m]
        LGTM though
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      • reosarevok[m]
        I mean....
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      • reosarevok[m]
        But yeah, that's what I wanted to say. Sorry for being too honest!
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      • lucifer[m]
        yvanzo: yes.
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      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-docker] release 03v-2025-01-27.0 has been published by 14reosarevok: https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-docker/…
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] 14amCap1712 merged pull request #3147 (03master…refactor-incremental): Refactor incremental stats framework https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] release 03v-2025-01-27.0 has been published by 14github-actions[bot]: https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • aerozol[m]
        Did reosarevok and monkey both release LB and MB at the exact same time?? (comparing LB repo update email time + MB blog post time)
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      • aerozol[m]
        Or maybe lucifer or mayhem. This year is gonna be in sync!
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