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      • YoMo12[m]
        Anybody knows what this error can mean? I'm on mobile and can't check dev tools.
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      • julian45[m]
        that would suggest an issue with one of your userscripts
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      • julian45[m]
        did the copyright parser give you trouble for this release, by any chance? i seem to recall occasionally running into an error like that with it
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] 14dependabot[bot] opened pull request #3214 (03master…dependabot/pip/jinja2-3.1.6): Bump jinja2 from 3.1.5 to 3.1.6 https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • YoMo12[m]
        The copyright script just thought it's a lable instead of artist relationship and I changed it manually.
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] 14amCap1712 merged pull request #3214 (03master…dependabot/pip/jinja2-3.1.6): Bump jinja2 from 3.1.5 to 3.1.6 https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • mayhem[m]
        and now for something really silly, motivated by monkey : artist_credit_sortnames.
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      • monkey[m]
        Laule
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      • mayhem[m]
        I remember at the summit in London in 2008 when we debated if we ever needed artist_credit_sortnames we couldn't come up with a reason for having them.
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      • mayhem[m]
        17 years later, lol.
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      • jasje[m]
        <GautamShorewala[> "jasje: aerozol please review the..." <- Looks good
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      • mayhem[m]
        reosarevok: ping
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      • jasje[m]
        jasje[m]: aerozol: to comment better
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      • reosarevok[m]
        mayhem: MBS-2278
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-2278: Sorting collections by artist should use the "sort name" of the artist https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-2278
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      • jasje[m]
        jasje[m]: Just make sure padding and alignment is right in actual implementation. I let it go in designs because its just a rough layout.
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      • reosarevok[m]
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      • mayhem[m]
        well, my use case is different, so should be fine.
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      • mayhem[m]
        but I have questions about these folks:
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      • mayhem[m]
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      • mayhem[m]
        or this person, I guess.
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      • reosarevok[m]
        What's the use case? I'd expect in any case that if you have a use for this as well in LB, we should look into materializing this for the next schema change?
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      • mayhem[m]
        the artist_name is in japanese, but the sort_name is romanized.
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      • reosarevok[m]
        (which we should announce in a couple weeks)
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Yes, sort names are all supposed to be in Latin script
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      • mayhem[m]
        I would like to find all artists where that is the case. do you know how to do that?
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      • reosarevok[m]
        It's always been the guideline
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      • reosarevok[m]
        So if any are not, that's an error
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      • reosarevok[m]
        (of course some are not, but :) )
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      • mayhem[m]
        neat. so if the artist_name is not in latin script, then bingo, i found a case, right?
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      • reosarevok[m]
        In theory, yes. Most non-Latin artist names will have Latin sortnames, except ones added by people who don't know the guideline
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Most Russian composers, Japanese/Korean pop bands, etc
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      • reosarevok[m]
        (ok, I guess a lot of k-pop and j-pop bands do have Latin names to begin with)
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      • mayhem[m]
        I can't guard against bad data, so I wont. but that is what I needed to know, thanks!
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      • reosarevok[m]
        So what's the use case, and how are you planning to calculate the sort names for ACs?
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      • reosarevok[m] needs to go for a bit, back in an hour max
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      • reosarevok[m]
        (I'll read / answer then)
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      • monkey[m]
        This would be used for matching listens, where the ibncoming listen data will bewhatever your player sends (so fairly often romanized names, which currently result in no match)
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      • dvirtz[m]
        Why can't the UI block entering non-latin sort names?
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      • monkey[m]
        (that was responding to reo)
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      • mayhem[m]
        dvirtz[m]: that smacks of effort, really.
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      • reosarevok[m]
        dvirtz[m]: Not every user will know how to latinize stuff :)
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      • reosarevok[m]
        monkey[m]: Fair, the order won't match of course, but
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      • mayhem[m]
        ППК PPK... (full message at <https://matrix.chatbrainz.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/chatbrainz.org/BUVbexLxCODjlkmkRXGUxvwr>)
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      • mayhem[m]
        awww, yiss. that should work well!
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      • YoMo12[m]
        @monkey That will probably also fix this issue.
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      • BrainzBot
        SEARCH-736: Search for recording & artist using artist alias
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      • monkey[m]
        Yeah, it's one of the use cases we are trying to resolve with this
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      • monkey[m]
        That's why I forced mayhem to do silly things :)
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      • mayhem[m]
        what I am working on has nothing to do with aliases. (at least not yet)
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      • reosarevok[m]
        Well, it would only fix it if our Latin sortname version happens to be the version that the platforms use
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      • reosarevok[m]
        (for a wider catching net aliases would be lovely but as I commented I feel that would make the index huge, but yvanzo would know better)
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      • YoMo12[m]
        Yeah, I think it will definitely fix 80 percent of those issues! I'm excited:)
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      • reosarevok[m]
        I guess indexing / searching artist sort names for recordings, if we don't currently, might have a similar usefulness
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      • monkey[m]
        Mmm, I spoke too soon, we are looking at resolving similar issues but for ListenBrainz
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      • reosarevok[m]
        (and be less crazy than indexing all aliases, although still make the indexes quite a bit bigger...)
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      • YoMo12[m]
        I have an open issue for listenbrainz as well lol
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      • YoMo12[m]
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      • YoMo12[m]
        Sort name will take care 90 percent here as well
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      • BrainzBot
        LB-1638: Matching Listens based on alternate scripts and diffrent Artist credits
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      • monkey[m]
        That's the one I was thinking of
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-server] 14amCap1712 opened pull request #3215 (03stats-dump…zstd-dumps): Migrate from xz to zstd for dumps compression https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server…
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      • LupinIII
        monke. u around?
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      • LupinIII
        monkey :D
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      • monkey[m]
        Yo! I'm about to step out for food, but can ping when I'm back
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      • LupinIII
        wait, i'll probably be goen then
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      • LupinIII
        (spanish lessons)
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      • LupinIII
        just a tiny thing, the https://bookbrainz-user-guide--22.org.readthedocs… seems not to update even though the commit's I 've made and the pull request says "5" new commits
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      • LupinIII
        (though they said tomorrow)
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      • LupinIII
        (though they said yesterday)*
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      • LupinIII
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      • LupinIII
        idk?
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      • LupinIII
        anyway, that's alright, I'll see you tomorrow
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      • monkey[m]
        LupinIII (IRC): The changes from last commits are there, not sure what you mean. Perhaps just impatient? :P
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      • LupinIII
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      • monkey[m]
        It does
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      • monkey[m]
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      • monkey[m]
        Check the changes, they are indeed on the page
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      • LupinIII
        spesifically i don't see my latestses changes on https://bookbrainz-user-guide--22.org.readthedocs…
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      • monkey[m]
        Here's a change from your commit:
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      • LupinIII
        yea. I don't see it
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      • monkey[m]
        Force refrehs the page, maybe?
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      • LupinIII
        nope
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      • monkey[m]
        ¯_ (ツ)_/¯
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      • LupinIII
        is it still 22?
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      • LupinIII
        huh.. the page shows updated in another browser... so..
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      • LupinIII
        wtf vivaldi
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      • LupinIII
        (but also for some reason it shows an ad in firefox "from ethical ads" and it's about AI so i dunno)
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      • LupinIII
        do we have that on there? we shoudl remove ads from our RTD
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      • LupinIII
        wait. wtf.ifi look into "inspect" and "sources" there. i actually see my changes in the source.. what the actual fuck
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      • LupinIII
        uh. ok soi tried refreshing again and now it shows. but i spotted an error and. i fixed it and. refreshing doesn't update it. so i guess some kind of severe cache issue :/
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      • LupinIII
        huh. odd
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      • LupinIII
        well alright
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      • monkey[m]
        ansh: Am I clear to merge the mobile player PR, or do you want to have another look as I changed a bunch of stuff?
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      • ansh[m]
        Sure! I'll have a look at that PR once today
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      • monkey[m]
        Thanks !
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      • monkey[m]
        I think we'll need a follow-up PR in any case, so if we find more bugs I'm expecting to fix them on the heels of deploying it.
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      • monkey[m]
        Just want to avoid piling on more work in this giganto-PR
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-android] 14Shreyassp002 closed pull request #532 (03main…dropdown-removal): Chore: removed dropdown functionality from the BP tabs https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-androi…
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-android] 14rahul31124 opened pull request #555 (03main…Swipe_Issue): Swipe Issue in landscape mode https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-androi…
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      • GautamShorewala[
        <jasje[m]> "Just make sure padding and..." <- will keep that in mind
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      • GautamShorewala[
        GautamShorewala[: also i think we need to change the current api for huesound a bit
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      • GautamShorewala[
        GautamShorewala[: i checked the api which the LB website is using there it is only returning us the playlists and not the top genre tags
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      • GautamShorewala[
        s/playlists/releases/