yvanzo: what's the use of the default command "creat[ing] empty SolrCloud 9 collections" if `load-backup-archives` says "It doesn't matter whether or not Solr has collections beforehand."?
once it has started, you can choose to either load backups or use SIR to populate collections.
2025-05-15 13537, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Ok :)
2025-05-15 13535, 2025
reosarevok[m]
I guess delete-search-indexes is being removed because it's replaced by delete-indexed-documents in mb-solr?
2025-05-15 13543, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Seems sensible, but should the commit message explain it?
2025-05-15 13512, 2025
yvanzo[m]
Sure
2025-05-15 13557, 2025
reosarevok[m]
In the v4.0.0 draft where you say "Hopefully, backup archives are / will be available too" do you mean "Thankfully" or do you actually mean "it needs full reindex, hopefully we'll have backups"? :)
2025-05-15 13521, 2025
reosarevok[m]
(it sounds like the second but I'm thinking we might mean the first?)
2025-05-15 13542, 2025
reosarevok[m]
"Helper scripts have been moved from musicbrainz-docker, adapted to work with Solr 9 and improved, to fetch, load and clean up Solr backup archives."
2025-05-15 13551, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Would that read more clearly as:
2025-05-15 13507, 2025
reosarevok[m]
"Helper scripts to fetch, load and clean up Solr backup archives have been moved from musicbrainz-docker, adapted to work with Solr 9 and improved." ?
2025-05-15 13550, 2025
reosarevok[m]
And I guess the idea is to then have a 4.0.1 or 4.1.0 that includes the two open PRS? :)
2025-05-15 13538, 2025
yvanzo[m]
There is no "/ will be" in the release notes draft. "Thankfully" would be more appropriate.
2025-05-15 13512, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Yeah, sorry, I wanted to say we could say "will be" if they aren't out by the time we release the version :)
2025-05-15 13522, 2025
reosarevok[m]
But I guess we've been making them anyway?
2025-05-15 13555, 2025
yvanzo[m]
Solr backups are out for a few weeks already.
2025-05-15 13510, 2025
yvanzo[m]
(Solr 9 backups)
2025-05-15 13547, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Ok, I knew you had worked on them but I didn't remember if we were making them available yet. Thanks!
2025-05-15 13511, 2025
yvanzo[m]
That was in my weekly review. :)
2025-05-15 13522, 2025
yvanzo[m]
(2 weeks ago)
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reosarevok[m]
Sorry!
2025-05-15 13554, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Anyway, both PR and draft look good other than the comments I made above :) (well they look good anyway, but)
2025-05-15 13549, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Why is the PR a draft? I understand it's ready to test?
2025-05-15 13547, 2025
yvanzo[m]
reosarevok: I made changes to the release notes about helper commands/scripts, partly using your rephrasing.
2025-05-15 13527, 2025
yvanzo[m]
Yes, the PR is a draft because it refers to a beta tag.
2025-05-15 13534, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Thanks! An helper -> a helper :)
2025-05-15 13547, 2025
reosarevok[m]
(well, "A helper")
2025-05-15 13510, 2025
reosarevok[m]
yvanzo: you say there's an image ready for testing - but isn't the solr image built locally anyway? :/ Or is there a way to tell it to fetch it from elsewhere?
2025-05-15 13517, 2025
reosarevok[m]
(I've only tested with a local image so far)
2025-05-15 13503, 2025
yvanzo[m]
reosarevok: Which local image?
2025-05-15 13515, 2025
yvanzo[m]
What have you tested with?
2025-05-15 13522, 2025
reosarevok[m]
Just me building stuff based on master + search-690 or master + SEARCH-738
I indexed sample artists locally with latest sir and the new release, at least, checked they are found. I don't have a lot of space locally to play with it much
mayhem: let me know when have taken a first look at the PR above, I will deploy it to production to generate dumps and verify everything is working then. not doing it first because it affects private dumps too.
2025-05-15 13531, 2025
bitmap[m]
<julian45[m]> "bitmap zas mayhem : new thing..." <- works for me too (my previous Authentik session had expired, but I was able to get back in fine)
who wants to do dance with the devils with me? I bet lucifer would be done, given his name.... jasje ?
2025-05-15 13553, 2025
mayhem[m]
I'll show you how to not get burnt (badly) and how to be (generally) safe!
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jasje[m]
Im in
2025-05-15 13522, 2025
jasje[m]
If i die i die cool
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mayhem[m]
that won't happen. there are ambulances every 100m. They'll patch you up.
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lucifer[m]
oh wow, looks amazing. i'm in.
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jasje[m]
No glorious death? Grrhh
2025-05-15 13547, 2025
jasje[m]
Apart from jokes, same thoughts as lucifer
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mayhem[m]
jasje[m]: sorry no. the EU doesn't roll like india.
2025-05-15 13517, 2025
mayhem[m]
seriously, the most important part are goggles. and I have a pile just for this reason.
2025-05-15 13523, 2025
mayhem[m]
the rest heals.
2025-05-15 13505, 2025
mayhem[m]
and if you want to avoid burns, just wear clothing head to toe. making the clothes wet is an extra layer of protection and mid-september might not be a bad idea.
2025-05-15 13545, 2025
mayhem[m]
you'll come out unscathed, but looking a bit like a sissy. 🤣🤪
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jasje[m]
Ill go with the clothes
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mayhem[m]
jasje[m]: I'll have some old clothes to hand for the purpose.
2025-05-15 13533, 2025
jasje[m]
Always wear protection for the first time
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mayhem[m]
a ratty long sleeve shirt might be a good thing to bring.
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lucifer[m]
mayhem[m]: random fact i find "interesting", the travel insurance for schengen visa application needs to have 3 covers to be considered valid. one of those is that it should cover the repatriation of the body to the home country in case of death in EU.
2025-05-15 13555, 2025
mayhem[m]
see how many holes you can put in it.
2025-05-15 13557, 2025
mayhem[m]
lucifer[m]: Is there a cover for a "glorious" death?
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lucifer[m]
lolol will have to check.
2025-05-15 13521, 2025
mayhem[m]
the vikings had some pretty dope funerals to go with their glorious deaths.
2025-05-15 13549, 2025
jasje[m]
mayhem[m]: Important questions are being asked
2025-05-15 13557, 2025
mayhem[m]
since I'm half viking, maybe I can request a viking funeral.
2025-05-15 13520, 2025
mayhem[m]
but, they'll probably just give me a pedal-boat because of being half viking.
2025-05-15 13529, 2025
mayhem[m]
pedal boat viking funeral.
2025-05-15 13536, 2025
mayhem[m]
now there is a death metal album cover!
2025-05-15 13543, 2025
jasje[m]
Who will shoot the arrow?
2025-05-15 13527, 2025
jasje[m]
(Do vikings death have the boat + fire arrow?)
2025-05-15 13532, 2025
mayhem[m]
jasje[m]: I doubt volunteers will be hard to find.
