eh you can't approve aneit that hasalready faield :P
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dusjekatt
failed*
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atj
the original edit failed due to a dependency error, so I had to recreate it :P
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CatQuest
oic
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ehmry
I have a band that publishes lyrics on bandcamp, how would I link that to their recordingss/works?
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elomatreb[m]
I don't think there is a way to link that
2022-05-09 12912, 2022
elomatreb[m]
The lyrics URL relationship that exists is for the cases where there is an external lyrics database (of which very few legitimate ones exist)
2022-05-09 12919, 2022
kepstin
ehmry: looks like you should just be able to link the page on bandcamp which includes the lyrics to the work, it's been added to the permitted sites list: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9831
ehmry: as far as the mechanics of it go - navigate to the work on musicbrainz, click edit, paste the link into the external links "add link" box, it should auto-detect as lyrics.
2022-05-09 12924, 2022
ehmry
yes, that works, but a bit slow
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reosarevok
That's the best we have at the moment
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ehmry
good enough for now
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King_DuckZ
hi, is there still no solution for representing ghost tracks in a sane way? possibly one that plays nicely with picard?
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King_DuckZ
should I start adding pseudo releases?
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derwin
what's a "ghost track"? do you mean a "hidden track"?
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CatQuest
King_DuckZ: erh. "hidden track" wors fine on mb?
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CatQuest
it can be added to the end.
2022-05-09 12923, 2022
CatQuest
or if it's that weird "playback the cd when at the beginning" 0. trakc thing
last track is not a 16 min song, it's a 6m30 song plus silence plus 5m30 song
2022-05-09 12949, 2022
CatQuest
ah
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CatQuest
yea yo ucna list the recording as title / other title
2022-05-09 12940, 2022
CatQuest
there is some haxery you cnado with picard in that if you've split that track, yo ucna still put thme both on the last one in picard
2022-05-09 12945, 2022
King_DuckZ
what about picard? I split the track and it doesn't know how to tag the 16th song, from what I can see
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CatQuest
and then manually set the text in the spesific file
2022-05-09 12919, 2022
CatQuest
so change the last split file's position to !16! and so on
2022-05-09 12932, 2022
CatQuest
erh "16"
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CatQuest
you can change the bit on the file itself. iirc
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CatQuest
or jsut save one of the files once and thne the second one after that
2022-05-09 12918, 2022
King_DuckZ
so basically there is no way to handle this and I have to do manual hackery that will break next time I import this album in picard?
2022-05-09 12924, 2022
CatQuest
you can override and type manually the contence in fetched tags
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aerozol
You've already hacked the CD :)
2022-05-09 12941, 2022
aerozol
You can add the Spotify release which has the tracks split and tag to that?
2022-05-09 12943, 2022
CatQuest
well. you've "hcked" it by splitted the .. yes
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CatQuest
oh yea. that woudl work
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CatQuest
!m aerozol for noticing that
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BrainzBot
You're doing good work, aerozol for noticing that!
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King_DuckZ
but the catalog number and maybe release date etc will be wrong
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aerozol
yup :( but so are your tracks lolol
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CatQuest
well honestly you will have to change something
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aerozol
jokes aside, I have this problem all the time with vinyl rips, which can be split/not split all kinds of ways
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CatQuest
because you "hacked" the file apart. that is the price to pay for conveniance in ripping i suppose
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aerozol
it sucks so I do feel for you
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CatQuest
oh man, yea
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CatQuest
i am loath t othat one frank zappa album for a reason
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CatQuest
btw is archive slow for anyone else?
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CatQuest
... omh I'm trying to dl this mashup file and it says "11 h" war
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King_DuckZ
I think we had this conversation last year already... wouldn't it be possible to add a ghost track feature to mb so it gets official support instead of hackery, and give an option in picard to have it either as 1 long track, or split it? and picard could do that automatically?
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aerozol
Maybe you have some ideas on how it could be done without compromising the database King_DuckZ. It's a tricky one
well I don't know about the internal db representation
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King_DuckZ
discogs lists 16 tracks btw
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aerozol
Might just be needed Picard side tbh
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CatQuest
it's actually kidna already possible?
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CatQuest
you jsut need to fiddle with some tags.. it wouldn't evne take that long imho
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CatQuest
i mean i fiddle with the tags all the time becase peopel are annoying and put in weird apostrophes
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aerozol
I think it's more about it being changed back if you update the tags?
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CatQuest
but I mean. this does sound ripe for a plugin suggestion
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CatQuest
hmm i guess
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aerozol
omg CatQuest surely you just hacve a plugin or something for the apostrophes
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CatQuest
but I mean that's what "use old tags" are for?
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aerozol
hmm I've never used that function!
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CatQuest
aerozol: I got help from rdswift in making a script that rmeoves tøv
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King_DuckZ
yes, sometimes there is a typo, an updated image or something and it requires an update - I had one just today with a mis-spelled album title
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King_DuckZ
and when I have split tracks it always trips me up because they don't fit in the album and my first thought is "oh I tagged the wrong album, I must have some deluxe edition that used to be mis-represented in the db"
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aerozol
I imagine something like: right click a track in Picard, click 'split track' or something, and then it adds an extra track, which is then loaded with the album next time
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aerozol
however this also might be an obscene amount of work for something that might just need a manual tag change tbh :D
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CatQuest
that really sounds like a plugin should do
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CatQuest
might wanna ask plugin writers? maybe on community
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King_DuckZ
when I don't split tracks, it's just annoying that music goes silent and suddenly you get music again. plus, it messes listening stats, I can't mark a song as favourite, making a playlist breaks continous playback etc
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CatQuest
sure
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aerozol
I hear ya! How are your script writing skills King_DuckZ ;P
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CatQuest
it shoulddefinitly be possible with a plugin
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King_DuckZ
I'm a programmer but I never did anything on the mb/picard front
hmm that's more the extended multiple grouping track thing
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CatQuest
classic music has it a fair bit
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CatQuest
uhm.. track grouping?
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CatQuest
I forget what it's called
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King_DuckZ
ok I can't figure how to search the logs but I'm sure we had this exact conversation already, with ideas and stuff thrown in
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King_DuckZ
I can have a look at the tutorial, but I can't promise anything. I'm a beginner with this, and the feature sounds fairly complex to me
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King_DuckZ
I've never seen track grouping, in fact that cd I linked to just doesn't list "sub-names" of each song, I think I'd have to change the db schema and the ui both on the website and on picard
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rdswift
Complex? Maybe. I have no clear idea of what you want it to do, so consequently I have no idea of how that might be accomplished.
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King_DuckZ
¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
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King_DuckZ
I guess there should be some text boxes where people can add additional titles inside a "top-level" track, with time stamps
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King_DuckZ
and the acoust id would also be different of course, depending on if you look up a solid track, or a sub-track
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rdswift
In other words a bogus different release. Bogus because the number of tracks has been artifically changed.
