#musicbrainz

<12Aerozol> "the best recommendation engine in terms of actually new discoveries and interesting stuff are music journalists/blogs/etc" - This is going to be scaled by LB in time, imo 😎

<12Aerozol> I think LB is in a lengthy phase of getting the core features nailed (plus some fun stuff), after that stuff that really leverages the strength of thousands of music lovers + good data can get plugged in (my personal view on it, anyway)

<04elomatreb> what I meant is that automated recommendation engines (no matter if based on audio characteristics or cohorts) are essentially limited to providing "more of the same" recommendations

<04elomatreb> whereas a blog post or whatever can lead you down completely new paths

<02UltimateRiff> I feel like if we can get automated data imports into MusicBrainz, that'll potentially improve the recommendation engine too, maybe get genres from other sources and use those for it too... I think the future of ListenBrainz could be great~

<02UltimateRiff> also, I feel like a listen-based system can recommend different stuff, like if Blackgaze listeners also listen to a lot of Ambient Noise Wall or something

Listenbrainz has user reviews and recommendations which can be essentially the same as a blog

<02UltimateRiff> ☝️

<04elomatreb> yeah, but not really what we were talking about before that

<03metadataismydrug> A more general format for that would be nice. Not specific reviews for songs/albums. Like you might have on a music blog. And being all on LB together would make them more discoverable. https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/CB-460 kinda related(in that it's about reviews not tied to a specific entity)

CB-460: Review of a Year in Music

<02UltimateRiff> all that said tho, most of the time new music needs to be discovered to be recommended, whether by listen-based systems or a blog writer or [third example]. the potential advantage of say, Bandcamp is they've got basic data about every track which could be used to recommend through these systems

will this swap a backslash for a foreslash in the file names (i.e., the paths)?

`$set(mypath,$replace(%mypath%,/,\\))`

and it should work properly on e.g., a song that has // Title?

Apparently not. i guess i have linux-safe file names OR I have to do all of the special characters manually?

Search results are lagging behind applied edits for 12h already.

oh, there's a picard setting for what to replace dir separator with. i wonder what happens if i tell it nothing...will it try to save files with / in them?

is it ok to give mixed artist links the dominating band (= most albums) or better to avoid them? importing for the 'other' band needs eagle eyes and 200% attention. https://musicbrainz.org/artist/084c1c6c-2e39-4f... <- yes | https://www.deezer.com/es/artist/145401 | nope -> https://musicbrainz.org/artist/05ec9559-6b43-4a...

honestly if it the link is not clearl slanted towards either I'd avoid those links altogether. infact i'd avoid it altogether spesifically if it was mixed

I can't decide what to do best, because nothing prevents the next editor to link it @both bands for maximum confusion

actually you cna write an annotation asking people not to do that :]

(explaining why it's a bad idea)

<03metadataismydrug> I always avoid adding mixed links as it tends to cause errors in the future with people adding to the wrong page when tools like atisket detects it. Have had to do a lot of clean up in my niche because of that.

you know....people can't read 😄

but I'll do it, that's a good idea

<02UltimateRiff> I've usually added the link to both with an annotation explaining the situation https://musicbrainz.org/artist/477d0420-74c0-4d...

a) not an excuse b) if ya can't read, gettoffs musicbrains :P :D

😄

i guess that works too, i dislike adding link liek that.. the website or whatever shoudl be.. penalised? for not doing it right? by not having theri bad artist links spread/used.. so an insentive to fix it at theri end.. but alas not gonan happen i guess

discordbrainz: what happens for import scripts if both IDs have it linked? which one will be chosen?

who on discordbrainz ? XD

i do a dry-run...

<02UltimateRiff> it me, UltimateRiff

it'sa me, UltimateRiff!

:D

<02UltimateRiff> I don't know for sure, it'd probably depend on how the developer decided to handle it?

<02UltimateRiff> I don't know that there's really a standard practice among importers there

nothing will be chosen, that is good

neither one of both is preselected, that is far from perfect but better than the wrong preselected

<02UltimateRiff> @kellnerd might have an answer for how Harmony might handle multiple MB artists with the same Spotify/Deezer/etc. URLs

I tried with harmony

sort of the reasons i omit links like this if they're "wrong" in that it shows data this.

it's.. "factually" wrong tht it's this or that artists canonical *link* like

<02UltimateRiff> mr44er: ah, fair

yes, sure. streaming services should be slapped hard for this...but linking both with CAUTIOUS annotation seems to be the better solution for now IMHO (vs. no links at all 😕 ), but I don't know if there are rules.

<02UltimateRiff> Jigen: on the one hand, I kinda agree with you, but on the other hand, the artists music can be legally streamed from these places, so I think that's reason enough to add the links, with the annotation to note the oddity

<10volumetrique> streaming services do not have the proper info to split them when the distributors send the info. a lot of distributors just don't give the artist profile URL and only the name of the artist, OR there are some streaming services that do not take an URL anyways. It's often a mess in electronic music because of all the cheap distributors, and even as a label I've had trouble getting the services to split the artists

properly. When the artists do pester spotify or similar they do get better results though.

<02UltimateRiff> ☝️

<10volumetrique> I've personally asked spotify to get my music on the proper artist page, there's a form for that

<10volumetrique> but even then it seems to fudge up when it comes to VA releases and stuff.

<10volumetrique> the whole system is just crap

<03metadataismydrug> Another reason to love KPop. Genie/Melon/Bugs almost never have mixed artist pages. Much higher data quality on them. It's so nice

<10volumetrique> @metadataismydrug : and so is stuff like Beatport.

<10volumetrique> It's the role of the publisher/label to make sure they input the correct data and the correct artist url

I will let this excerpt from the logs speak for itself:

> harmony.mbid [DEBUG] https://www.deezer.com/artist/151721 has rels to 18 artist entities

<10volumetrique> 😂

<03metadataismydrug> Oh dear god

pure nightmare

UltimateRiff: I think the best compromise is to leave off the artist link, but to link like releases (if existing) e.g. like https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/947ff2db-a...

tfw i update my profile on $website and email and it says new email must be confirmed, but no email arrives

or rather, the "you profile has new email was dis u" style email to my *two* old redirected emails arrive but not the actual "confirm newemail w/ link" one

(it's even worse because I tried another email (thinking the new emails format was blup or something) and now I got *three* eails, one each to the old emails + one to the new, unconfirmed email)

and all of these in my innbox so not in spam or whatever

interesting cover? https://sweetgroove.bandcamp.com/album/ep

<04zoe.division> well this is gunna be fun I have a li'l single/EP release by Moonriders, that's not in our db

<04zoe.division> but also NOT in discogs