(Still up: lucifer, atj, zas, Shubh, riksucks, Freso – anyone else who wants to give review, let me know ASAP.)
2023-01-09 00938, 2023
Freso
jasje: pick one ^ :)
2023-01-09 00945, 2023
jasje
lucifer go next!
2023-01-09 00951, 2023
lucifer
hi all!
2023-01-09 00956, 2023
jasje
monkey: Thanks!!
2023-01-09 00936, 2023
Pratha-Fish CatQuest: I am a corporate shill sent by google to keep an eye at MetaBrainz 👁️
2023-01-09 00945, 2023
Pratha-Fish *on
2023-01-09 00953, 2023
CatQuest
nah
2023-01-09 00957, 2023
mayhem
Pratha-Fish: not needed. we have direct line to Google. :)
2023-01-09 00901, 2023
lucifer
last few weeks, i worked mostly on Year in Music stuff. other than worked on adding cover art to playlists and helped alastairp with the manual mapping stuff.
2023-01-09 00923, 2023
mayhem
if they want to know what we're doing they know to just ask
2023-01-09 00929, 2023
lucifer
also, met with riksucks, ansh and akshaaatt! :)
2023-01-09 00943, 2023
lucifer
that's it for me. atj: next?
2023-01-09 00947, 2023
v6lur joined the channel
2023-01-09 00918, 2023
atj
hello
2023-01-09 00919, 2023
Pratha-Fish
mayhem: of course I know you have a direct line at Google... I work there. I was sent to report on daily activities and espionage (secret stuff they cant directly ask about)
2023-01-09 00958, 2023
CatQuest
this joke bores me :|
2023-01-09 00959, 2023
atj
Happy new year everyone. First day back after an extended Christmas break so nothing to report.
2023-01-09 00905, 2023
atj
zas?
2023-01-09 00910, 2023
zas
Hey
2023-01-09 00941, 2023
Pratha-Fish
CatQuest: Try to spot me in your coffee tomorrow 👁️
2023-01-09 00945, 2023
Freso
(Only Shubh, riksucks, and Freso left on my list. Last call for anyone else who wish to give review!)
2023-01-09 00946, 2023
zas
I did usual supervision, user support, upgrades, etc..
2023-01-09 00909, 2023
zas
We (with phw) released first version of Picard 2.9 (alpha)
The date the release was issued. / The country the release was issued in.
2023-01-09 00932, 2023
CatQuest
oooh! well good thing with the doc sprint then!
2023-01-09 00946, 2023
reosarevok
I thought that'd be all the documentation needed for physical, since those two things directly apply to those :)
2023-01-09 00947, 2023
yvanzo
reosarevok: yes and it links to an historic release event page.
2023-01-09 00905, 2023
CatQuest
so basically 1 is Update the documentation
2023-01-09 00913, 2023
yvanzo
Thanks, so we can move to the next step after that.
2023-01-09 00922, 2023
reosarevok
Yeah, seems so
2023-01-09 00924, 2023
yvanzo
(If the split looks reasonable to everyone.)
2023-01-09 00947, 2023
reosarevok
Let's update the links later this week, and if you feel the wording is confusing we can talk about that too
2023-01-09 00904, 2023
yvanzo
reosarevok: It's not just what is a release event, it is why we have it.
2023-01-09 00931, 2023
reosarevok
Oh. Well, we don't document why we have artists or barcodes either 🤷♂️
2023-01-09 00947, 2023
yvanzo
We should.
2023-01-09 00958, 2023
CatQuest
eh.
2023-01-09 00900, 2023
yvanzo
Fin for me.
2023-01-09 00908, 2023
Pratha-Fish
CatQuest: does this count as documentation? https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Communication/IRC ? I'd love to add a step by step quick start for IRC since a lot of folks I know seem to be having trouble wrapping their head around it
2023-01-09 00930, 2023
Freso
Unless others have more to add to the topic, that’s that for this week.
2023-01-09 00937, 2023
CatQuest
oh! yea. a documentation for irc would be +++
2023-01-09 00944, 2023
Freso
Which it doesn’t look like there are.
2023-01-09 00954, 2023
yvanzo
Pratha-Fish: Sure.
2023-01-09 00900, 2023
Freso
So thank you all for your time! Welcome back, and stay safe out there!
2023-01-09 00908, 2023
Freso
</BANG>
2023-01-09 00912, 2023
CatQuest
I remember back i the day i was confused by irc too. it has a small steep learning curve, but once you figure it out it's awesome
2023-01-09 00920, 2023
reosarevok
yvanzo: so the idea is to improve docs, then define digital next meeting? Works for me
2023-01-09 00925, 2023
Pratha-Fish
Freso: 🎉
2023-01-09 00936, 2023
CatQuest
🎉🎊
2023-01-09 00936, 2023
yvanzo
reosarevok: Why we have artists or barcodes is pretty obvious. But release events are not always printed on the release.
2023-01-09 00957, 2023
CatQuest
barcodes and artists aren't always printed either :D
2023-01-09 00912, 2023
reosarevok
I mean, I'm not sure why we have them - because people want them? :D I'm not sure why we have packaging either, but that seems to be the same reason
2023-01-09 00918, 2023
CatQuest
many releases don't even *have* barcode
2023-01-09 00923, 2023
reosarevok
I mean, I guess to some degree both help disambiguate releases
2023-01-09 00933, 2023
CatQuest
that's my take away actualy
2023-01-09 00944, 2023
Pratha-Fish
CatQuest: Exactly! I was super confused when I first started out wih IRC. A lot of folks have been DMing me on Linkedin for the same too. I'll get back to you with an update draft soon
2023-01-09 00947, 2023
CatQuest
it made more sense before coverart uploads too
2023-01-09 00949, 2023
reosarevok
But I don't think that's the reason we have them, people like to have that info even when there's only one release and no likelihood of re-release
2023-01-09 00957, 2023
CatQuest
Pratha-Fish: cool!
2023-01-09 00901, 2023
CatQuest
on wiki
2023-01-09 00918, 2023
CatQuest
I mean. we have that data becasue.. it's data
2023-01-09 00938, 2023
CatQuest
and for especially physical and historical release. it was very important data
2023-01-09 00943, 2023
reosarevok
CatQuest: sure, but that's the argument people give for the 200 country lists :D
2023-01-09 00949, 2023
reosarevok
"it's data, so we want to add it" :p
2023-01-09 00952, 2023
CatQuest
because there where real differences between jp, vs US vs uk releases and such
2023-01-09 00955, 2023
reosarevok
So maybe we can figure out a better reason :D
2023-01-09 00912, 2023
CatQuest
ja. i was getting to that
2023-01-09 00940, 2023
monkey
jivte: What do you need help with?
2023-01-09 00947, 2023
CatQuest
in physical you have *a release* I have a norwegian release of "secret garden" it is differnt than the international ones
2023-01-09 00957, 2023
CatQuest
and so on
2023-01-09 00958, 2023
zas
to me the main difference between digital & physical releases is that physical ones hardly change after release, but digital releases can be edited, and sometimes that's very hard to know when & what changed.
2023-01-09 00909, 2023
CatQuest
with online it's.. complicated and less distinct at the same time
2023-01-09 00912, 2023
yvanzo
Release country was a distinctive feature for physical release, it is lesser the case for digital release.
2023-01-09 00915, 2023
reosarevok
Yeah
2023-01-09 00917, 2023
CatQuest
exactly
2023-01-09 00918, 2023
jivte
monkey: thanks for asking i figured it out myself
2023-01-09 00944, 2023
CatQuest
it's literally unimportant for online
2023-01-09 00944, 2023
reosarevok
I guess what yvanzo is looking at is "if we decide why do we even bother to store countries and dates, it's easier to figure out if that even makes sense for digital"?
2023-01-09 00915, 2023
monkey
👍
2023-01-09 00917, 2023
jivte
monkey: actually was converting date to timestamp for submitting timestamp in payload
2023-01-09 00943, 2023
reosarevok
Which makes sense to me. It's not quite unimportant for digital - because sometimes there are differences between digital releases in different countries, even though that sounds stupid
2023-01-09 00949, 2023
reosarevok
But it's certainly less important IMO
2023-01-09 00950, 2023
yvanzo
It makes sense for physical release, but digital releases are another thing.
2023-01-09 00955, 2023
CatQuest
I have a live recording of Motörhead ok? they are playing a concert and lemmy talks about th song they wher going ot play next. and he says "but you cna only gt it in german, you couldn't even steal it" and i was like "yea lemmy luv, this is so obv pre-internet
2023-01-09 00917, 2023
CatQuest
so in conclution it *dosnt* really make sense to have countries of online/digital releases
