#musicbrainz-devel

git grip is awesome.

git grep

hi

hi :)

hmph. the colour on my macbook screen is very yellow compared to on this external monitor...

hm, is year required in MB partial dates?

at the moment, yes

(I can imagine we know the birthday of an artist, but not their birth year)

nikki: ah, sucks. but right now, very good, because it makes fixing #172 easier :)

do you happen to know how I'm supposed to tell programs to close from the command line?

linux? mac? windows?

mac

the osx equivalent of x isn't doing anything

killall seems to work

"killall Safari"

use "ps aux" to check which name the process actually has.

what are you doing at the bottom of a cupboard?

wifi reception?

kinky sex?

haha

it's hooked up to the router and my external drive

wh9ich are both at the bottom of the cupboard

lol

ruaok: 5407 seems fixed already. I left a note on trac.

I was trying to test it, except osx has better ideas

I've recently run across it.

ruaok: hm, so then it only happens in certain situations? :/

that's partly why I'm reluctant to turn osx off, last time I turned it off with a vm running, it killed my hard drive and now I'm paranoid :P

doesn't have them populated.

odd, it's filled here.

what data are you running?

NGS dump imported last weekend.

my dump is from ftp.musicbrainz.org/pub/musicbrainz/data/ngs/, downloaded on 2009-09-29 17:04

thats utmostly odd.

it's working on my computer

then I'd say put it on hold and if it creeps up again, we'll look closer.

how long ago did you import the data?

it would be useful to do a data conversion from scratch and see if it happens there.

8 sept.

hmm, I think I last did it after that, and unless I'm mistaken, test hasn't been updated for ages either

I'd say not worry about it now.

by the way, when do we close tickets for things that are in ngs? like we have a ticket for adding genders to artists

I's day add it to the NGS beta 1 milestone and close it as fixed.

time for bed soon.

ok then

:-)

ohh, when are you leaving?

13 hours.

how long's the flight?

50 minutes and 9 hours 50 minutes. (SBP -> LAX -> LHR)

we fly south 50 minutes only to fly north again.

heh, that happens quite often with trains for me

warp: a few more things that you could look at:

1) porting stats, timeline, dashboard to catalyst/TT

2) writing more reports. The report infrastructure is in place, but we only have two reports.

3) If you're daring, port CD Stubs. :)

bed time.

nn

sleep well!

:o

hmm...

does IE support max-width?

IE6 doesn't, I would hope it was fixed in either 7 or 8.

and i've broken it even more >_<

:(

I shouldn't have used third party .deb packages

ok, debian back up and running the way I want it too... now to get mb_server running again

yay! everything running again :)

:D

hm, unix timestamps don't work very well to represent the birth date of e.g. Mozart

heh

-700000000000 or something? :D

hmm... I can't remember which browsers we said we'd support

any idea if/how we're doing translations of the website?

we have the strings wrapped in some function, I don't know when we're planning to actually translate it though

any idea about plurals? :)

for english it's just '1 year' and 'X years', but other languages may be more complicated.

heh, like all the slavic ones go "one plural form? pfffft!"

:)

unsuccessfully at the moment :P

an example: [%- ln('There is also one anonymous subscriber.', 'There are also {num} anonymous subscribers.', anonymous_subscribers, {num => anonymous_subscribers}) -%]

so I gues that means the current codebase doesn't handle other plural thingies?

it does, but those are the defaults

oh, right.

the gettexty thingy deals with plurals elsewhere

'ln' is the function which does this stuff then?

it would seem so

root/components/common-macros.tt:[%- MACRO ln(text, plural, num, args) BLOCK;

which resolves to 'c.ngettext(text, plural, num, args)

bah, no nice examples of how the plural forms work

well anyway, each language has some formula thingy which says how many different plurals there are and which numbers use which ones, and then there are that many strings in the translation file

so if arabic needs 6 or whatever, you don't end up having to enter 6 strings for english because the arabic stuff is in the arabic file and the english stuff is in the english file :o

yeah, I see ngettext just assumes english for the message ids always.

yeah, I'm not entirely sure why, I guess it's so english speakers can be lazy or something and end up with strings that make sense even if they don't create a translation file thingy

yay!

aCiD2: help!

aCiD2: in a .tt file I can call ngettext() on 'c'. how do I get a $c which can do that in a .t file?

(I _think_ 'c' is a MusicBrainz::Server::Context, but if I create one with MusicBrainz::Server::Context->create_test_context() it doesn't have ngettext)

luks!

hi

perhaps you can help me :)

in a .tt file I can call ngettext() on 'c'. how do I get a $c which can do that in a .t file?

(I _think_ 'c' is a MusicBrainz::Server::Context, but if I create one with MusicBrainz::Server::Context->create_test_context() it doesn't have ngettext)

$c is the catalyst server instance

so MusicBrainz::Server

it's provided by a plugin

hey luks!

(catalyst plugins extend the Catalyst base class)

hi nikki

luks: thanks. with my $c = MusicBrainz::Server->new() it actually works :)

just plain MusicBrainz::Server->new() would be probably wrong in a test

oh, I remember what I'd been wondering now...

luks: yes, I understand that. but I always want something that works first, then worry about the right way to do things second.

luks: when you made the ngs design thing, did you put the dropdown before the input box for any particular reason?

nikki: you mean in the search form?

luks: I'm calculating the age (ticket #172), so I need to output '1 year', 'X years', etc.. want to put that through ngettext() available from $c.

er, yes

nikki: no reason at all then

warp: I think a template should do that

ah, 'cause I was wondering if we could switch it round, since it always seems back to front to me

nikki: I have no problem with changing it :)

luks: a template just for formatting that string?

warp: well, is the string used somewhere in perl code?

luks: i'm outputting it from perl code.