#musicbrainz-devel

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      • navap
        I thought it best to just mention where the functionality of those files now lie, just in case people thought it odd I was going around deleting files ;)
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      • ruaok joined the channel
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      • ruaok
        aCiD2: ping
      • 2010-03-10 06909, 2010

      • ruaok joined the channel
      • 2010-03-10 06942, 2010

      • ruaok prods aCiD2 again
      • 2010-03-10 06903, 2010

      • warp is in 80x25
      • 2010-03-10 06902, 2010

      • ruaok
        on the new box?
      • 2010-03-10 06906, 2010

      • warp
        yes
      • 2010-03-10 06911, 2010

      • alastairp
        nice
      • 2010-03-10 06921, 2010

      • ruaok
        do tell, warp! whatchagot?
      • 2010-03-10 06942, 2010

      • warp
        debian stable didn't like it much. but the current debian testing snapshot netinstall .iso worked.
      • 2010-03-10 06955, 2010

      • alastairp
        grep ^processor /proc/cpuinfo|wc -l
      • 2010-03-10 06918, 2010

      • warp
        alastairp: I don't even have gnu screen yet to copy paste that here.
      • 2010-03-10 06929, 2010

      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2010-03-10 06932, 2010

      • alastairp
        it's only a single number :)
      • 2010-03-10 06940, 2010

      • warp
        ah
      • 2010-03-10 06902, 2010

      • warp
        8
      • 2010-03-10 06915, 2010

      • alastairp
        nice
      • 2010-03-10 06915, 2010

      • ruaok
        8 cores?
      • 2010-03-10 06921, 2010

      • alastairp
        4 + HT?
      • 2010-03-10 06932, 2010

      • ruaok
        or dual quad?
      • 2010-03-10 06938, 2010

      • warp
        core i7
      • 2010-03-10 06946, 2010

      • warp
        i'm guessing what alastairp said
      • 2010-03-10 06955, 2010

      • warp
        I only plugged one cpu into the motherboard.
      • 2010-03-10 06905, 2010

      • ruaok
        yep HT
      • 2010-03-10 06943, 2010

      • warp
        2800 MHz
      • 2010-03-10 06909, 2010

      • warp
        ruaok: I ordered a white case, so I could stick that musicbrainz sticker on it. but sadly that case wasn't in stock and I swapped it for a black one.
      • 2010-03-10 06931, 2010

      • ruaok
        why can't you put it on the black one?
      • 2010-03-10 06941, 2010

      • warp
        doesn't look very nice :)
      • 2010-03-10 06955, 2010

      • ruaok
        ah.
      • 2010-03-10 06904, 2010

      • ruaok has a different sense of aethetics.
      • 2010-03-10 06909, 2010

      • warp
        :)
      • 2010-03-10 06920, 2010

      • ruaok
        over lunch I was talking about how there is an art to mismatching socks.
      • 2010-03-10 06933, 2010

      • ruaok
        there are combinations that don't work and ones that doe.
      • 2010-03-10 06935, 2010

      • ruaok
        do
      • 2010-03-10 06956, 2010

      • ruaok
        I mismatch socks, so I have no problem sticking a white sticker on a black puter
      • 2010-03-10 06957, 2010

      • ruaok
        :)
      • 2010-03-10 06925, 2010

      • warp
        I remember seth godin mentioning there is a company somewhere marketing socks to teenage girl, and they come in packs of 3 different socks (not pairs).
      • 2010-03-10 06933, 2010

      • warp
        girls
      • 2010-03-10 06947, 2010

      • ruaok
        yep.
      • 2010-03-10 06904, 2010

      • ruaok
        my doctor got some for xmas. she proudly wore them the day I came in.
      • 2010-03-10 06910, 2010

      • warp
        :D
      • 2010-03-10 06917, 2010

      • ruaok
        (I think those socks are lame, but that is just me)
      • 2010-03-10 06907, 2010

      • ruaok
        alastairp: remember the guy whom you gave my number to at hack day? songkick?
      • 2010-03-10 06918, 2010

      • ruaok
        he contacted me re the blog post.
      • 2010-03-10 06925, 2010

      • ruaok
        now that's 5 concert data providers.
      • 2010-03-10 06927, 2010

      • ruaok
        hmmm.
      • 2010-03-10 06928, 2010

      • alastairp
        oh, cool
      • 2010-03-10 06935, 2010

      • warp
        :D
      • 2010-03-10 06941, 2010

      • ruaok
        I do like the piece of feedback that someone left...
      • 2010-03-10 06947, 2010

      • alastairp
        I heard something about songkick recently?
      • 2010-03-10 06900, 2010

      • alastairp
        "we're now the biggest event provider"? or something
      • 2010-03-10 06918, 2010

      • ruaok
        instead of selling them the right to provide us with concert info, we should just sell them data licenses. and those who want to provide concert info, can.
      • 2010-03-10 06943, 2010

      • warp
        ruaok: sounds good, yeah.
      • 2010-03-10 06953, 2010

      • warp
        simple.
      • 2010-03-10 06959, 2010

      • alastairp
        oh yeah
      • 2010-03-10 06903, 2010

      • ruaok
        it removes the potential for conflicts with the tax authorties here.
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      • alastairp
        is there a problem with that?
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      • ruaok
        we have stated two form of income that we got a tax exempt OK on.
      • 2010-03-10 06921, 2010

      • ruaok
        if that changes we have to square that away with them.
      • 2010-03-10 06924, 2010

      • alastairp
        ah
      • 2010-03-10 06930, 2010

      • ruaok
        donations and data licenses.
      • 2010-03-10 06944, 2010

      • ruaok
        so, if we keep selling data licenses, we're in the clear.
      • 2010-03-10 06920, 2010

      • navap
        ruaok: I'm taking a look at the registration page and would like to change the Big Bold Scary Text a little :)
      • 2010-03-10 06923, 2010

      • navap
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      • ruaok
        looks ok. I would like to see it in HTML tho.
      • 2010-03-10 06929, 2010

      • ruaok
        MusicBrainz has one account type for all users, including artists, labels and end users. If you represent an artist trying to correct your metadata, create an account here.
      • 2010-03-10 06930, 2010

      • navap
        I'm going to bold the entire thing except for "Please read our.."
      • 2010-03-10 06936, 2010

      • navap
        Yup I will
      • 2010-03-10 06955, 2010

      • ruaok
      • 2010-03-10 06957, 2010

      • ruaok
        thanks.
      • 2010-03-10 06935, 2010

      • alastairp
        have you guys seen that recent talk about more prose-like registration forms?
      • 2010-03-10 06904, 2010

      • alastairp
        "Hello, my name is [ ] and my email address is [ ]. Please create me an account with password [ ]"
      • 2010-03-10 06929, 2010

      • ruaok
        sounds like something for sissies. like Muz.
      • 2010-03-10 06931, 2010

      • navap
        That sounds a bit childish doesn't it?
      • 2010-03-10 06932, 2010

      • ruaok
        :-)
      • 2010-03-10 06938, 2010

      • alastairp
        rofl
      • 2010-03-10 06948, 2010

      • alastairp
        I think they were ruby coders
      • 2010-03-10 06955, 2010

      • ruaok
        nuff said.
      • 2010-03-10 06925, 2010

      • ruaok
        scheiss warmduscher...
      • 2010-03-10 06928, 2010

      • navap
        I think most people are very used to filling in forms that if you suddenly turned a registration form into a "paint by colour" page things would turn ugly :p
      • 2010-03-10 06948, 2010

      • alastairp
        navap: according to their statistics it was better
      • 2010-03-10 06949, 2010

      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2010-03-10 06954, 2010

      • alastairp
        I think they did an A/B test
      • 2010-03-10 06956, 2010

      • pronik
        alastairp: it was said they had a better turnaround rate, BUT I think it's not MusicBrainz' aim to make as many registrations as possible
      • 2010-03-10 06901, 2010

      • warp
        alastairp: I liked the way _they_ did that, but it's easy to mess up.
      • 2010-03-10 06902, 2010

      • alastairp
        pronik: true
      • 2010-03-10 06913, 2010

      • ruaok
        registration forms do appear to be a major stumbling block for some people.
      • 2010-03-10 06915, 2010

      • pronik
        rather active users and maybe even some registration-free collaboration
      • 2010-03-10 06920, 2010

      • ruaok
        they cause a lot of people to lose interest fast.
      • 2010-03-10 06935, 2010

      • navap
        Anyone have a link to this?
      • 2010-03-10 06936, 2010

      • alastairp
        wow
      • 2010-03-10 06954, 2010

      • pronik
        alastairp: wow about what?
      • 2010-03-10 06906, 2010

      • alastairp
        just saw that create account page.
      • 2010-03-10 06908, 2010

      • alastairp
        it's, uh, busy
      • 2010-03-10 06955, 2010

      • navap
        Ours?
      • 2010-03-10 06916, 2010

      • ruaok
        more like a fustercluck. :)
      • 2010-03-10 06942, 2010

      • pronik reads http://www.expatsoftware.com/articles/2010/03/why-internationalization-is-hopelessly.html and wonders about how people manage to talk about i18n and barely scratch the surface
      • 2010-03-10 06940, 2010

      • ruaok
        "and incidentally how much smarter the GNU folks are than, say, you. And why you should be using emacs."
      • 2010-03-10 06941, 2010

      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2010-03-10 06953, 2010

      • warp
        emacs makes me cry.
      • 2010-03-10 06949, 2010

      • ruaok
        I always thought that emacs stood for "eight megs and continually swapping"
      • 2010-03-10 06902, 2010

      • ruaok
        until I saw that vi was taking 24M of ram one day. :)
      • 2010-03-10 06911, 2010

      • ruaok
        then again, that saying is... erm dated.
      • 2010-03-10 06924, 2010

      • pronik
        emacs saves me a lot of time at work :)
      • 2010-03-10 06932, 2010

      • ruaok tries to not sound like the suspender-unix-beard guy from Dilbert.
      • 2010-03-10 06943, 2010

      • pronik
        especially compared to co-workers typing their perl code in eclipse + epic plugin
      • 2010-03-10 06907, 2010

      • pronik
        you know, indenting by HAND
      • 2010-03-10 06930, 2010

      • pronik
        instead of pressing tab somewhere in a line and have it align automagically
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      • warp
        both perl modes I have here for emacs indent some things the wrong way.
      • 2010-03-10 06953, 2010

      • alastairp
        ruaok: you're worrying about 24megs of ram?
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      • pronik
        warp: cperl-mode works fine for me
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      • ruaok
        alastairp: that saying comes from back in the day when computers had 8 megs of ram. :)
      • 2010-03-10 06922, 2010

      • pronik
        the one supplied with 23.1 emacs
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      • Muz
        ruaok: I objerct to that statement about it being for sissies. It doesn't have anywhere near enough ponies.
      • 2010-03-10 06905, 2010

      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2010-03-10 06914, 2010

      • pronik
        Muz: not if you color every word differently
      • 2010-03-10 06941, 2010

      • alastairp
        ruaok: yeah, I know :)
      • 2010-03-10 06925, 2010

      • pronik
        warp: my emacs perl config if you are interested: http://gist.github.com/328467
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      • ijabz joined the channel
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      • warp
        pronik: thanks, I'll have a look.
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      • aCiD2
        hrm, murdos says I broke upgrade.sh
      • 2010-03-10 06901, 2010

      • navap
        He's alive!
      • 2010-03-10 06917, 2010

      • aCiD2
        barely
      • 2010-03-10 06929, 2010

      • aCiD2
        hi :)
      • 2010-03-10 06955, 2010

      • ruaok scurries to get his question in.
      • 2010-03-10 06922, 2010

      • aCiD2
        me first!
      • 2010-03-10 06931, 2010

      • alastairp
        no, me!
      • 2010-03-10 06931, 2010

      • ruaok
        isa => 'DateTime',
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      • ruaok
        );
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      • aCiD2
        right
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      • ruaok
        and there is a column mapping
      • 2010-03-10 06954, 2010

      • ruaok
        and this column
      • 2010-03-10 06955, 2010

      • ruaok
        added TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE DEFAULT NOW(),
      • 2010-03-10 06906, 2010

      • ruaok
        thought when I attempt to load a row from that I get:
      • 2010-03-10 06927, 2010

      • ruaok
        Attribute (last_modified) does not pass the type constraint because: Validation failed for 'DateTime' failed with value 2009-06-18 02:15:30.437431+00 (not isa DateTime)
      • 2010-03-10 06948, 2010

      • ruaok
        actually the problem is lastmodifed not, date_added, which is strange since they are defined to both be the same.
      • 2010-03-10 06910, 2010

      • ruaok
        what magic incantation do I need to get the code to load the dates?
      • 2010-03-10 06912, 2010

      • aCiD2
        can you paste your entity and model?
      • 2010-03-10 06940, 2010

      • aCiD2
        and while you do that, can anyone clarify http://gist.github.com/328484 ? Murdos says I broke a load of shit, but upgrade.sh seems to run for me
      • 2010-03-10 06944, 2010

      • ruaok
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      • aCiD2
        ta
      • 2010-03-10 06950, 2010

      • ruaok
        for the entity
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      • ruaok
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      • aCiD2 wiggles his eyebrows
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      • ruaok wonders what sorts of silly shit he is attempting
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      • warp
        aCiD2: did you get around to looking at my chained url problem (MBS-66) btw?
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      • aCiD2
        warp: afraid not :( i will tomorrow (or tonight, depending on how much energy I have left :))
      • 2010-03-10 06906, 2010

      • warp
        np :)
      • 2010-03-10 06906, 2010

      • ruaok
        aCiD2: daddy, did you bring me anything?