it's always like that at autechre, everytime I've seen them. but this is the first time I've seen it announced and that the bar is closed.
2010-04-08 09854, 2010
Leftmost
I find myself in a position where putting in the required work to put together a decent application for GSoC would really screw with uni for me. I've got two exams tomorrow and a major conference presentation next week.
2010-04-08 09800, 2010
Leftmost
As such, I'm going to withdraw my application.
2010-04-08 09804, 2010
aCiD2
they didn't do a black out when I saw them, but the lights were certainly dimmed, no strobe or anything
2010-04-08 09808, 2010
warp
nooooooo
2010-04-08 09816, 2010
Leftmost
But I'm hoping that you would still be willing to work with me on collections (if no one else does so) during the summer.
2010-04-08 09826, 2010
aCiD2
Leftmost: of course, but I'd say reconsider :)
2010-04-08 09853, 2010
aCiD2
I think we could make GSoC work given your constraints and that
2010-04-08 09805, 2010
Leftmost
Well, I'm just concerned that my application isn't sufficient. (It was never intended to be a final draft.)
2010-04-08 09843, 2010
aCiD2
hm
2010-04-08 09853, 2010
aCiD2
and that you don't have the time right now to improve it?
2010-04-08 09813, 2010
Leftmost
Right. I'd really like to improve it, but at this juncture I just have to prioritize school.
2010-04-08 09823, 2010
aCiD2 understands
2010-04-08 09833, 2010
aCiD2
I'm starting to focus on my exams now too, as they are just over 2 weeks away
2010-04-08 09833, 2010
warp
the application is important, but we don't judge these things solely on that.
2010-04-08 09854, 2010
warp
for example your participation here on irc also counts, etc..
2010-04-08 09839, 2010
warp
Leftmost: I would appreciate it if you could try to improve it as best as you can given these constraints
2010-04-08 09854, 2010
warp
Leftmost: so skip screenshots
2010-04-08 09816, 2010
warp
(screenshots/mockups tend to be time consuming :)
2010-04-08 09817, 2010
Leftmost
Well, if you think I should leave the application in, I can edit it with some of the things we've talked about. (Scoping up, etc.)
2010-04-08 09856, 2010
Leftmost
I've got a bit of scheduling done and some thoughts on the ordering/structure of work as well, which I can add.
2010-04-08 09857, 2010
warp
Leftmost: yes, if your timeconstraints are just for now.. and you're free to work during the normal SOC schedule in the summer months
2010-04-08 09820, 2010
Leftmost
Yeah. The semester is over in early May and I'm not taking summer courses.
2010-04-08 09844, 2010
aCiD2
I certainly wouldn't let some time constraints in the application period put you off and withdrawing
2010-04-08 09853, 2010
warp
Leftmost: please keep it in, improve what you can.
2010-04-08 09857, 2010
aCiD2
i'll talk to ruaok later tonight and let him know what's up and we'll see what he says
2010-04-08 09838, 2010
Leftmost
Alright, thanks.
2010-04-08 09854, 2010
aCiD2
ok, I gotta get off to uni and make it look like I've spent 2 weeks on this dissertation :P
2010-04-08 09858, 2010
aCiD2
bbl!
2010-04-08 09800, 2010
warp
lol
2010-04-08 09802, 2010
warp
good luck aCiD2
2010-04-08 09817, 2010
Leftmost digs into some graph theory.
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warp digs into taglookup.html
2010-04-08 09854, 2010
aCiD2 digs into his bike pedals
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Leftmost
I'll get some of that stuff worked into the application at lunch today.
2010-04-08 09808, 2010
Leftmost
Reminds me. I need to fix my bike.
2010-04-08 09858, 2010
warp
hrm, now LWP cannot reach my search server, but curl/wget/browser can.
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xiainx
warp: what would you think about using something like django for the proposal tracking system...?
2010-04-08 09808, 2010
xiainx
warp: I'm suggesting that framework, because it's written in Python, and I understand integrating co-ment in isn't that bad on a python framework like Django
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2010-04-08 09809, 2010
xiainx
somewhat
2010-04-08 09833, 2010
ruaok
I know the feeling. I've been hovering in that state for days now.
2010-04-08 09802, 2010
nikki
I am
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jensl
hi
2010-04-08 09857, 2010
ruaok
hi
2010-04-08 09813, 2010
jensl
ruaok: is there anything else you miss or want to be stated more clear in my proposal? you requested a UI mock-up that I added and nothing more, so i am unsure...
2010-04-08 09803, 2010
ruaok
gimme a sec, but I think your proposal is complete.
2010-04-08 09813, 2010
jensl
ok
2010-04-08 09822, 2010
ruaok
jensl: so the only thing I would love for you to add to the proposal is a quick note:
2010-04-08 09812, 2010
ruaok
If my mentor would like to have this implemented in pure java and not use jqtouch g<whatevergluelayer> I would agree to do this in java.
2010-04-08 09829, 2010
ruaok
or, better yet. adjust your proposal to simply say that you're doing it in java.
2010-04-08 09835, 2010
ruaok
that would actually be better.
2010-04-08 09849, 2010
ruaok
we're generally disutrustful of those toolkits that generate code.
2010-04-08 09823, 2010
jensl
ok so you want everything in java, no mobile optimized pages, not even for search etc. where it would be possible?
2010-04-08 09852, 2010
jensl
then we could integrate the pages seemlessly into the java app
2010-04-08 09855, 2010
ruaok
yes, no mobile pages and a complete native android app with no fancy toolkits.
2010-04-08 09800, 2010
jensl
ok
2010-04-08 09815, 2010
jensl
then i will throw all the stuff out :)
2010-04-08 09847, 2010
warp waves
2010-04-08 09858, 2010
jensl
hi warp
2010-04-08 09807, 2010
ruaok
thanks jensl
2010-04-08 09820, 2010
jensl
thanks for feedback
2010-04-08 09810, 2010
ruaok
np. thanks for the nice looking app.
2010-04-08 09826, 2010
ruaok
I'm looking forward to going over it with a fine tooth comb on the plane tomorrow.
2010-04-08 09854, 2010
jensl
have fun :)
2010-04-08 09830, 2010
jensl
we even do not need mobile optimized pages, once finished with android it is not more than 4 weeks work to port it to the iphone (excluding barcode)
2010-04-08 09822, 2010
jensl
one last thing concerning the proposal, before i came up with the idea of mobile optimized pages, someone suggested the idea on the mailing list to deploy the barcode scanning stuff as an openintent, what do you think about this?
2010-04-08 09819, 2010
ruaok
openintent allows others to initiate the barcode submit process?
2010-04-08 09829, 2010
aCiD2
ahhh, chilli simmering away
2010-04-08 09831, 2010
aCiD2
so much for burgers
2010-04-08 09837, 2010
ruaok
wha happen?
2010-04-08 09828, 2010
jensl
yes allows other to use the barcode stuff
2010-04-08 09836, 2010
aCiD2
thought it'd be more fun to make homemade flour tortillas and a chilli
2010-04-08 09808, 2010
jensl
at least retrieve information, maybe submit (depends what we want)
2010-04-08 09833, 2010
ruaok hands aCiD2 a tortilla press
2010-04-08 09844, 2010
ruaok
jensl: that sounds like fun. :)
2010-04-08 09836, 2010
aCiD2
student tortillas* no rolling pin, i get to press them using 2 plates
2010-04-08 09855, 2010
ruaok
ah, ghetto tortillas
2010-04-08 09809, 2010
ruaok
can you actually buy tortillas in a store?
2010-04-08 09853, 2010
ruaok
We have a large section of tortillas here. small, big, medium. flour, corn. lard, no lard. tomato, spinach tortillas
2010-04-08 09856, 2010
ruaok
its crazy
2010-04-08 09851, 2010
aCiD2
yea, they are pretty bad though - and no, not a selection like that here - just 5 different ones maybe
2010-04-08 09810, 2010
ruaok nods
2010-04-08 09836, 2010
ruaok
that reminds me, I need to eat several more burritos before I leave.
2010-04-08 09842, 2010
ruaok
lest I get withdrawals again.
2010-04-08 09805, 2010
jensl
ruaok: ok will state it in my prop
2010-04-08 09820, 2010
ruaok
k
2010-04-08 09826, 2010
warp
melange is annoying.
2010-04-08 09822, 2010
jensl
yes definitely, everything has to be ajaxified and the editor destroyed the whole layout of my proposal
2010-04-08 09829, 2010
ruaok
I know that melange is an ongoing source of frustration. :(
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jdamcd
apparently the gsoc proposal editor adds arbitrary line spacing and formatting even if you specify the layout in html :/
2010-04-08 09853, 2010
ruaok
yep
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jdamcd
crazy, they should have a gsoc student fix Melange
2010-04-08 09802, 2010
ruaok
jdamcd: there is a TEAM of students working on melange
2010-04-08 09846, 2010
jdamcd
ahh :)
2010-04-08 09805, 2010
philip6137
yes the editor is quite messy.
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warp
xiainx: oh, on django. I'm not that familiar with it, but it's popular enough. Seems fine to me.
2010-04-08 09855, 2010
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alastairp
django is pretty neat
2010-04-08 09807, 2010
ruaok nods
2010-04-08 09824, 2010
ruaok
but like RonR, its has is sweet spot of applications.
2010-04-08 09836, 2010
alastairp
for sure
2010-04-08 09855, 2010
alastairp
I can't find the beginning of the conversation - this is for an soc app?
2010-04-08 09819, 2010
ruaok
I dunno what we're even talking about...
2010-04-08 09841, 2010
navap
ruaok: I got my server up and running again. I used a pre-quality collumn commit to import my data and then I pulled from core.git to update.
2010-04-08 09855, 2010
ruaok
ok, good.
2010-04-08 09858, 2010
navap
But now when I browse a release group page I get quality column errors, but test doesn't have those errors.
2010-04-08 09814, 2010
alastairp
ruaok: heh, right
2010-04-08 09828, 2010
alastairp
I just see a comment saying "django, yay!"
2010-04-08 09843, 2010
ruaok
alter table release add column integer quality;
2010-04-08 09858, 2010
ruaok thinks that should work.
2010-04-08 09817, 2010
navap
ERROR: type "quality" does not exist
2010-04-08 09824, 2010
ruaok
feh.
2010-04-08 09829, 2010
ruaok
swap integer and quality
2010-04-08 09851, 2010
navap
woohoo! Problem solved!
2010-04-08 09801, 2010
ruaok
:-)
2010-04-08 09810, 2010
navap
iarp: See above, you probably want to do this too
2010-04-08 09815, 2010
ruaok
next person that comes in with this problem would you please guide them through this?
2010-04-08 09824, 2010
navap
heh yeah
2010-04-08 09822, 2010
navap
iarp: You'll need to run `./admin/psql READWRITE` to type that in by the way.
2010-04-08 09839, 2010
warp
ruaok: I had trouble importing the database too, earlier this week.
2010-04-08 09811, 2010
warp
(I ended up just doing a checkout from february with the dump from january, because that seemed 'known good' to me :)
2010-04-08 09823, 2010
ruaok
smart.
2010-04-08 09832, 2010
ruaok
yeah, the quality commit on master is what kills it.
2010-04-08 09842, 2010
ruaok
sadly I don't have time to do another import.
2010-04-08 09847, 2010
ruaok
maybe I'll do one monday.
2010-04-08 09809, 2010
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