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      • aCiD2
        oh actually, 791 isn't huge, I can probably review this
      • 2010-08-03 21514, 2010

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      • Leftmost
        Hmm. aCiD2, did you see murdos's comment on the review?
      • 2010-08-03 21513, 2010

      • aCiD2
        yea
      • 2010-08-03 21520, 2010

      • aCiD2
        I don't agree with it, I'm happy sticking with list
      • 2010-08-03 21529, 2010

      • aCiD2
        rym use list, as do discogs. I think we should too
      • 2010-08-03 21552, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: did you send payments yet? If not, I have a new account for you to use
      • 2010-08-03 21553, 2010

      • Leftmost
        Well, I was mostly wondering about the upgrade.sh stuff. Should I be editing those scripts that reference editor_collection to use list instead?
      • 2010-08-03 21559, 2010

      • Leftmost
        I'm not sure what the upgrade process is.
      • 2010-08-03 21541, 2010

      • aCiD2
        yea, if you change the schema, you need to change anything that references it
      • 2010-08-03 21546, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ack and grep are you friends here :)
      • 2010-08-03 21502, 2010

      • Leftmost
        Okay. Those scripts were in the updates folder, so I just left them alone.
      • 2010-08-03 21504, 2010

      • ruaok
        aCiD2: I did yesterday, which means they are going out today. send me the new info for next month.
      • 2010-08-03 21511, 2010

      • aCiD2
        gotcha
      • 2010-08-03 21512, 2010

      • aCiD2
        will do
      • 2010-08-03 21525, 2010

      • ruaok
        aCiD2: the account is at the same bank?
      • 2010-08-03 21531, 2010

      • aCiD2
        no, llyods tsb
      • 2010-08-03 21543, 2010

      • ruaok
        ok, then you need to send ALL the DETAILS again.
      • 2010-08-03 21556, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ah, ok
      • 2010-08-03 21501, 2010

      • aCiD2
        I never know what they need for wires
      • 2010-08-03 21504, 2010

      • ruaok
        all the wire instructions, the main address of the bank, then local address of the bank.
      • 2010-08-03 21519, 2010

      • ruaok
        thats why you should ask them to provide the instructions to you.
      • 2010-08-03 21521, 2010

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      • aCiD2
        I'll do that during the week then
      • 2010-08-03 21536, 2010

      • ruaok
        you have a month. :)
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      • kurtjx
        hello
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      • kurtjx
        is there a particular editor people like for perl? something with auto-complete stuff?
      • 2010-08-03 21550, 2010

      • aCiD2
        Padre is the closest you'll get
      • 2010-08-03 21502, 2010

      • aCiD2
        There is an eclipse plugin too
      • 2010-08-03 21509, 2010

      • aCiD2
        Me and warp use emacs, some people use vim too
      • 2010-08-03 21525, 2010

      • kurtjx
        i'm using emacs now - but i'm relatively new to it
      • 2010-08-03 21540, 2010

      • kurtjx
        i learned it while typing my thesis in latex
      • 2010-08-03 21516, 2010

      • kurtjx
        as it seemed to have the best auto-complete features actually - on citations and refs to other sections
      • 2010-08-03 21534, 2010

      • kurtjx
        but i guess not so much for perl...
      • 2010-08-03 21540, 2010

      • aCiD2
        You won't find autocompletion for perl like you will with Java/C#
      • 2010-08-03 21551, 2010

      • aCiD2
        because Perl is so complex most people say "only Perl can parse Perl"
      • 2010-08-03 21523, 2010

      • kurtjx
        fair enough :-)
      • 2010-08-03 21537, 2010

      • aCiD2
      • 2010-08-03 21504, 2010

      • aCiD2
        but yea, I'd suggest Padre if you insist on having something like an IDE :) For me, I wouldn't go back from something like Emacs or GVim these days though, but it is a learning curve for sure
      • 2010-08-03 21555, 2010

      • kurtjx
        i'll look at padre, but i may just do emacs
      • 2010-08-03 21513, 2010

      • kurtjx
        i've been in the eclipse world a bit
      • 2010-08-03 21528, 2010

      • kurtjx
        but it seems the EGit plugin for eclipse just doesn't work right
      • 2010-08-03 21547, 2010

      • kurtjx
        which i suppose is not a deal breaker, but annoying
      • 2010-08-03 21505, 2010

      • kurtjx
        hehe "a formal proof"
      • 2010-08-03 21532, 2010

      • aCiD2
        :)
      • 2010-08-03 21537, 2010

      • kurtjx tags for later reading
      • 2010-08-03 21528, 2010

      • aCiD2
        really these days I tend to keep most stuff in my head though and always have search.cpan.org open (or perldoc)
      • 2010-08-03 21554, 2010

      • kurtjx
        i recall some perl frameworks being mentioned - i know catalyst was one
      • 2010-08-03 21559, 2010

      • kurtjx
        and i think there was another...
      • 2010-08-03 21505, 2010

      • aCiD2
        Moose
      • 2010-08-03 21513, 2010

      • aCiD2
        Moose and Catalyst are definitely essential reading
      • 2010-08-03 21539, 2010

      • kurtjx
        thnx aCiD2
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      • Leftmost
        I use a combination of vim and gedit, depending on what I'm doing.
      • 2010-08-03 21551, 2010

      • aCiD2
        and what configuration the moon is in
      • 2010-08-03 21536, 2010

      • kurtjx
        can somebody enlighten me as to why there's a musicbrainz_db and a musicbrainz_db_raw ???
      • 2010-08-03 21507, 2010

      • nikki
        I think they live on different servers or something
      • 2010-08-03 21530, 2010

      • kurtjx
        oh funky - so it's more about hardware
      • 2010-08-03 21547, 2010

      • nikki
        and the raw database has stuff that's not part of the actual mb data (like user collections)
      • 2010-08-03 21514, 2010

      • kurtjx
        so the test db queries i'm doing
      • 2010-08-03 21521, 2010

      • kurtjx
        all use musicbrainz_db
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      • kurtjx
        then tables are named musicbrainz.artist or musicbrainz.release
      • 2010-08-03 21537, 2010

      • warp
        kurtjx: _raw contains huge amounts of data in production. it contains the full edit history and all user specific data.
      • 2010-08-03 21552, 2010

      • kurtjx
        ok
      • 2010-08-03 21552, 2010

      • nikki
        edits have been moved to the raw db now?
      • 2010-08-03 21524, 2010

      • kurtjx
        so musicbrainz_db is somehow a filtered version of db_raw?
      • 2010-08-03 21526, 2010

      • aCiD2
        nikki: yea
      • 2010-08-03 21538, 2010

      • nikki
        ah right
      • 2010-08-03 21546, 2010

      • aCiD2
        kurtjx: musicbrainz_db is the data, musicbrainz_db_raw is the musicbrainz side of the data
      • 2010-08-03 21547, 2010

      • warp
        kurtjx: no, just different tables.
      • 2010-08-03 21548, 2010

      • aCiD2
        if that makes sense
      • 2010-08-03 21556, 2010

      • kurtjx
        k
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      • nikki doesn't look at the edit table very often so wasn't aware of that
      • 2010-08-03 21522, 2010

      • ruaok
        nikki: any sign of the package yet?
      • 2010-08-03 21526, 2010

      • nikki
        not yet
      • 2010-08-03 21513, 2010

      • ruaok
        should be coming this week
      • 2010-08-03 21518, 2010

      • nikki nods
      • 2010-08-03 21506, 2010

      • alastairp
        lucky
      • 2010-08-03 21517, 2010

      • alastairp
        samsung galaxy vibrant releases here on friday
      • 2010-08-03 21534, 2010

      • alastairp
        I've been putting off getting a number :)
      • 2010-08-03 21511, 2010

      • Leftmost
        aCiD2, still around?
      • 2010-08-03 21521, 2010

      • aCiD2
        sure, what's up
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      • Leftmost
        Just wondering if there's anything else that you can think of needs doing for the review. I think I've addressed all of the concerns relevant to the diff in question.
      • 2010-08-03 21533, 2010

      • Leftmost
        Also, as a heads up, I'm going to send you and warp a bit of information on the way I'm doing collection editing in WS2 to see if the architecture makes sense.
      • 2010-08-03 21531, 2010

      • aCiD2
        sounds good, I'll have a look at the review tomorrow. hopefully we're at a mergable state now
      • 2010-08-03 21518, 2010

      • Leftmost
        Okay.
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      • ruaok
        its amazing. the DB server is sitting at a load of 20 and still responding pretty fast.
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