random 504s are nothing new for me though, it seems to be working the same as normal for me
2011-05-08 12834, 2011
ruaok
that sucks. 504s shouldn't be happening. ;(
2011-05-08 12859, 2011
reosarevok
Meh, another now
2011-05-08 12808, 2011
reosarevok
But yeah, 2 in a day is nothing too special
2011-05-08 12814, 2011
ruaok
djce: ping
2011-05-08 12822, 2011
djce
ow
2011-05-08 12827, 2011
ruaok
hiya
2011-05-08 12834, 2011
ruaok
we're getting 504s again. :)
2011-05-08 12838, 2011
ruaok
er .. :-(
2011-05-08 12811, 2011
djce hits the button
2011-05-08 12838, 2011
djce
not seeing 504s now...
2011-05-08 12805, 2011
ruaok
hits the button to switch to carl?
2011-05-08 12809, 2011
djce
yup
2011-05-08 12812, 2011
djce
we're on carl now
2011-05-08 12820, 2011
ruaok
odd. why is lenny being so flaky now?
2011-05-08 12836, 2011
ruaok
lets reboot lenny and leave it on carl for now.
2011-05-08 12836, 2011
djce
let's leave it on carl this time
2011-05-08 12842, 2011
djce
ok
2011-05-08 12844, 2011
ruaok
:-)
2011-05-08 12829, 2011
ocharles
ruaok: the load testing script thing failed because apaprently the logs go back in time ("I don't know how to sleep for -0.09s" was the exception)
2011-05-08 12835, 2011
ocharles
it's probably a floating point math problem
2011-05-08 12844, 2011
ocharles
anyway, I've made it skip negative sleeps and it's running again now
2011-05-08 12857, 2011
ruaok
ocharles: interesting. :)
2011-05-08 12802, 2011
reosarevok
ocharles: your stocks are going down
2011-05-08 12805, 2011
ruaok
probably a flock issue.
2011-05-08 12809, 2011
ocharles
reosarevok: SELL SELL SELL
2011-05-08 12823, 2011
ocharles
ruaok: doubt it, the process that does the sleeping doesn't use flock
2011-05-08 12835, 2011
ruaok
not your code -- the nginx code.
2011-05-08 12839, 2011
ocharles
oh, I see
2011-05-08 12809, 2011
ruaok
interestingly enough, the jaikoz beta has been giving ngs some traffic.
2011-05-08 12813, 2011
ruaok
not much, but still.
2011-05-08 12816, 2011
djce
ocharles: never really checked whether the timestamp you're using is the start of request, or the end. But either way ... meh, time goes backwards sometimes.
2011-05-08 12830, 2011
ruaok
LOL
2011-05-08 12834, 2011
ruaok
great quote. :)
2011-05-08 12855, 2011
djce
Had some Xen VMs a couple of years ago where the clock would jump forwards by 70 minutes or so,
2011-05-08 12804, 2011
djce
then stay there until reality caught up.
2011-05-08 12835, 2011
ruaok
reality was broken. not the clock. :)
2011-05-08 12835, 2011
djce
It's a strange world where time() returns the same value for over one outside-world hour.
reosarevok just changed his definition of tl;dr to just http://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_To_Write_Edit_Notes
2011-05-08 12851, 2011
ruaok
time to pare those down. :)
2011-05-08 12855, 2011
ruaok
lol
2011-05-08 12814, 2011
reosarevok would propose killing that with fire
2011-05-08 12838, 2011
ruaok
or replacing it with some with that isn't tl;dr
2011-05-08 12853, 2011
reosarevok
nikki said: "surely it just boils down to a) add urls. cover scans = good, official sites = usually good, user-editable sites = not so good, freedb = shit b) explain what you're doing if it's not obvious"
2011-05-08 12823, 2011
Mineo
c) explain why you're doing it :)
2011-05-08 12828, 2011
nikki
yeah
2011-05-08 12837, 2011
reosarevok
I bet we would get somebody who added a release and put the artist MB page as url, and would say "I'm adding a release because it is not in musicbrainz"
I tend to overuse that, yeah -- I figure it's good to have condensed versions of each sentence somehow, though
2011-05-08 12837, 2011
nikki
"There is a partial consensus on MusicBrainz that incomplete data is better than wrong data. Rather than adding detailed information "based on a hunch", without being able to find reasonable proof, add only what you can justify." seems out of place. that's nothing to do with adding edit notes
2011-05-08 12849, 2011
nikki
(yeah, I know, it was on the original page)
2011-05-08 12853, 2011
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2011-05-08 12802, 2011
ianmcorvidae
I liked that sentence and wanted to preserve it, is all :P
2011-05-08 12829, 2011
ianmcorvidae edited a bit to put the bold near the start of each line; that makes it less chaotic
2011-05-08 12838, 2011
ianmcorvidae
(also got rid of that sentence even though I like it :P)
2011-05-08 12804, 2011
nikki would get rid of most of the bold, it's already in a list with only a few other words :P
2011-05-08 12818, 2011
ianmcorvidae
haha
2011-05-08 12840, 2011
ianmcorvidae tries to see if I agree
2011-05-08 12832, 2011
nikki
I think I would take the ", unless it's outstandingly obvious" bit and move it to the paragraph before "you are strongly encouraged to add one, unless it's outstandingly obvious" or something
2011-05-08 12830, 2011
ianmcorvidae
I was trying to make it so it was just "add an edit note, period, even though they're optional" and then make subparts optional
2011-05-08 12858, 2011
reosarevok would rather see extremely obvious notes than no notes
2011-05-08 12859, 2011
ianmcorvidae
basically, trying to get a URL even for blindingly obvious things, because blindingly obvious isn't the same person-to-person :)
2011-05-08 12810, 2011
davitf
this part (which was already there in the original) seems confusing: "If a voter disagrees they should add another edit note, describing the issue or asking for proof or clarification. If they don't, you should ask them in an edit note. "
2011-05-08 12815, 2011
reosarevok
At least I get a laugh sometimes, versus being annoyed
2011-05-08 12829, 2011
nikki
hmm...
2011-05-08 12842, 2011
nikki
when is an edit blindly obvious?
2011-05-08 12846, 2011
nikki
the only things I can think of are urls
2011-05-08 12848, 2011
ianmcorvidae
davitf: hm, true, lemme work on that sentence a bit
2011-05-08 12834, 2011
ianmcorvidae
okay, edits to that top part davitf pointed out
2011-05-08 12824, 2011
davitf
looks good
2011-05-08 12826, 2011
davitf
thanks
2011-05-08 12841, 2011
nikki
the "How to add edits notes when voting and answering" seems to duplicate the code of conduct a bit
2011-05-08 12814, 2011
ianmcorvidae
ah, that it does
2011-05-08 12825, 2011
ianmcorvidae didn't know there was a code of conduct page :P
