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ruaok
meeting time!
2011-05-10 13013, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
whoo
2011-05-10 13016, 2011
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warp
hello!
2011-05-10 13024, 2011
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ruaok
a *lot* of stuff has happened in the last week.
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
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ruaok
OMFG
2011-05-10 13058, 2011
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ruaok
ruaok has changed the topic to: agenda: MB general update/SFMT/Hack day, review, server tuning, [what else?]
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
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ruaok
sit back and relax for a minute. there are a ton of updates on many things. :)
2011-05-10 13027, 2011
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reosarevok
:)
2011-05-10 13028, 2011
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ruaok
first, Amplifind is no more.
2011-05-10 13048, 2011
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ruaok
the intellectual property of the company was sold by its investors to none other than...
2011-05-10 13052, 2011
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MBChatLogger
Ponies and sunshine and myspace and glitter!!
2011-05-10 13052, 2011
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ruaok
disgracenote.
2011-05-10 13059, 2011
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ruaok
thanks MBChatLogger
2011-05-10 13059, 2011
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ocharles
eep
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
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ocharles turns off the piano
2011-05-10 13006, 2011
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warp
woah
2011-05-10 13028, 2011
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ruaok
we've been told that since our contract is perpetual that our serivce would continue indefinitely.
2011-05-10 13032, 2011
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ruaok
which brings us to santa claus.
2011-05-10 13044, 2011
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ruaok
there aint so santa claus, sorry leftmost.
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
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MBChatLogger
Ponies and sunshine and myspace and glitter!!
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
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ruaok
and gracenote indefintely providing FREE service to MB is also not going to happen.
2011-05-10 13017, 2011
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ruaok
so, I'm being lied to as far as I can tell.
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
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ruaok
I know that at least one customer has a contract through Sept.
2011-05-10 13037, 2011
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ijabz_
I think amplifind is honouring all paid contracts ntil they expire
2011-05-10 13038, 2011
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ijabz_
\
2011-05-10 13038, 2011
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ruaok
that contract will be honered, so I'm sure we have service that long.
2011-05-10 13049, 2011
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warp
ok
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
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ruaok
yep, but I had no luck determining the longest contract.
2011-05-10 13055, 2011
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ijabz_
and yours wil stop when the last paid contract expires
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
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ruaok
so, Im going with the one figure I know.
2011-05-10 13010, 2011
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ruaok
ijabz_: thats clear to me. :)
2011-05-10 13014, 2011
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ruaok
but that wasn't what was said.
2011-05-10 13039, 2011
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ruaok
so, once they shut down the service we can invoke the clause to get the source code.
2011-05-10 13000, 2011
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ruaok
which is completely useless. without the patent license behind the code, we can't operate the service.
2011-05-10 13011, 2011
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ruaok
fun fun fun.
2011-05-10 13014, 2011
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warp
lol
2011-05-10 13021, 2011
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ruaok
which brings me to the next topic.
2011-05-10 13023, 2011
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ruaok
alastair1: ping
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
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ruaok
alastairp: ping
2011-05-10 13037, 2011
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ocharles
alastairp: is going to manually be our puid lookup bot?
2011-05-10 13041, 2011
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ocharles
cool!
2011-05-10 13055, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
haha
2011-05-10 13000, 2011
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ruaok will sadly steal alastairp 's thunder....
2011-05-10 13010, 2011
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ruaok
alastair will be interning with the echonest over the summer.
2011-05-10 13021, 2011
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ocharles
sweet!
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
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ruaok
starting on NGS release day he will start working on their fingerprint services and getting those shipped.
2011-05-10 13043, 2011
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ruaok
so, that is very exciting.
2011-05-10 13057, 2011
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ruaok
and with luks hacking on his own open service, we'll have TWO services soon.
2011-05-10 13011, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
(they just need to be integrated/finished)
2011-05-10 13017, 2011
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ruaok
yep.
2011-05-10 13030, 2011
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warp
indeed, acoustid/chromaprint is looking very nice.
2011-05-10 13036, 2011
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ijabz_
+1
2011-05-10 13037, 2011
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ruaok
and that will be the tricky thing, but we're going to start with planning everything out.
2011-05-10 13049, 2011
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ruaok
yep. so, may the best service win.
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
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ruaok
in either case MB wins.
2011-05-10 13000, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
we do have until september to get this right, at least :)
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
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ruaok
so, thats that.
2011-05-10 13006, 2011
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ruaok
yeah.
2011-05-10 13008, 2011
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ruaok
next topic:
2011-05-10 13022, 2011
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ruaok
I spoke with brewster kahle, the HNIC at
archive.org yesterday.
2011-05-10 13036, 2011
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nikki
HNIC?
2011-05-10 13005, 2011
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ruaok
i asked him about the cover art archive proposal I've talked about and he his response was: Yes, we want to do this.
2011-05-10 13012, 2011
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ruaok
nikki: urban dictionary. :)
2011-05-10 13014, 2011
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nikki
wooo!
2011-05-10 13034, 2011
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ruaok
he said: "You are doing excellent work with MusicBrainz" and the gave me a hug.
2011-05-10 13045, 2011
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ocharles
nice
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
awesome
2011-05-10 13054, 2011
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ruaok
when one of your heros says you and your team is doing great work and give you a hug, thats big.
2011-05-10 13004, 2011
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zazi_ joined the channel
2011-05-10 13018, 2011
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ruaok
so, we're going to have a cooperation with the internet archive to create a cover art archive.
2011-05-10 13023, 2011
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reosarevok
Yay! :D
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
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ruaok
everything wil be hosted at the archive.
2011-05-10 13037, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
do we know the next steps on that?
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
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ruaok
MusicBrainz will curate the collection.
2011-05-10 13043, 2011
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ocharles
that is badass
2011-05-10 13045, 2011
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nikki
will it cover more than just the front cover?
2011-05-10 13048, 2011
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ocharles
100%. badass.
2011-05-10 13054, 2011
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ruaok
MB will be the only entity be able to write to the archive.
2011-05-10 13058, 2011
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ruaok
everyone will be able to read.
2011-05-10 13010, 2011
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ruaok
the legal side is covered by their mission,.
2011-05-10 13018, 2011
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warp
wow, that sounds perfect.
2011-05-10 13035, 2011
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ijabz_
wow again
2011-05-10 13036, 2011
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nikki
(I mean, will we be able to basically add back cover, obis, cd pictures too?)
2011-05-10 13036, 2011
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ruaok
brewster says: "If someone wants to sue me: Fuck em. Let em sue me. I've been sued by the best"
2011-05-10 13045, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
hah
2011-05-10 13049, 2011
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ruaok
which is HIUUUUUUUUUGE.
2011-05-10 13056, 2011
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ruaok
nikki: I think we should scan everythign.
2011-05-10 13002, 2011
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nikki
\o/
2011-05-10 13012, 2011
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ruaok
I think when we have a moment to breathe, someone should start a whishlist page on the wiki.
2011-05-10 13016, 2011
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ruaok
what should we do?
2011-05-10 13019, 2011
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ruaok
how should we do it?
2011-05-10 13027, 2011
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ruaok
how do we deal with copyright violation notices.
2011-05-10 13035, 2011
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ocharles
what do we want, is an important question too
2011-05-10 13044, 2011
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ruaok
this has been brewing for a while, so I have a bunch of questions in my head already.
2011-05-10 13044, 2011
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ocharles
once we understand that in detail, we can understand how to present it and how to collect it
2011-05-10 13045, 2011
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outsidecontext_ joined the channel
2011-05-10 13050, 2011
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nikki envies vgmdb and their scans and wants something like that :P
2011-05-10 13052, 2011
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ruaok
ocharles: exactly.
2011-05-10 13002, 2011
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ruaok
what *I* want is something that is easy to fetch.
2011-05-10 13007, 2011
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ruaok
like:
2011-05-10 13022, 2011
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ruaok
2011-05-10 13033, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
which has... everything?
2011-05-10 13040, 2011
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ruaok
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
(if we're scanning more than just the front)
2011-05-10 13044, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
there we go :)
2011-05-10 13045, 2011
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ruaok
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
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ruaok
so you can go through the pages of cover art.
2011-05-10 13005, 2011
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ruaok
not just the front, but everythying people want to scan in.
2011-05-10 13016, 2011
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nikki can start a wiki page
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
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ruaok
ok, have a think about this.
2011-05-10 13027, 2011
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ruaok
but lets keep focused on NGS. :)
2011-05-10 13029, 2011
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ruaok
next!
2011-05-10 13032, 2011
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ruaok
yes, it keeps going.
2011-05-10 13033, 2011
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warp would suggest a slightly different scheme, but this is probably not the time to discuss that in detail.
2011-05-10 13051, 2011
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ocharles too
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
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ruaok
musixmatch wants to integrate lyrics support and lyrics publishing support into mb.
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
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ocharles
but yea, that
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
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reosarevok
lyrics TOO?
2011-05-10 13012, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
next you'll tell us we have events too :P
2011-05-10 13013, 2011
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ruaok
warp: agreed -- I;m just throwing out there that I want it to be cake to access!
2011-05-10 13015, 2011
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reosarevok
What else do we get, free gummy bears for all?
2011-05-10 13022, 2011
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ruaok
ianmcorvidae: akshually, yes.
2011-05-10 13025, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
hah
2011-05-10 13025, 2011
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ruaok
reosarevok: that too!
2011-05-10 13037, 2011
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reosarevok
ruaok: ok, I'll give you my address :p
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
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ruaok
so, MXM has agreed to pay for airfare for ocharles warp and me to come to bologna.
2011-05-10 13047, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
ruaok needs to go to musichackdays more often, they seem to be good for MB ;)
2011-05-10 13006, 2011
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ruaok
we're going to have MB/MXM hack days where the two teams hack out lyrics support in a few days.
2011-05-10 13010, 2011
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ocharles
I'm really looking forward to this internal hackday
2011-05-10 13010, 2011
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ruaok
its not much work to do it right.
2011-05-10 13018, 2011
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ruaok
maybe we can squeeze out a summit too!~
2011-05-10 13019, 2011
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reosarevok
How would lyrics work?
2011-05-10 13023, 2011
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reosarevok
Collaborative?
2011-05-10 13040, 2011
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ruaok
reosarevok: lets talk about that later.
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
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reosarevok
Ok
2011-05-10 13044, 2011
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ruaok
we lots of other stuff to cover.
2011-05-10 13056, 2011
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ruaok
and yes, concert listings will also come soon.
2011-05-10 13011, 2011
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ocharles
<3 them
2011-05-10 13011, 2011
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ruaok
so, that will also happen.
2011-05-10 13018, 2011
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ruaok
so do many other people.
2011-05-10 13024, 2011
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ruaok
and their team was at SF hack day.
2011-05-10 13034, 2011
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ruaok
wait. santa does exist.
2011-05-10 13041, 2011
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ruaok
he just emptied his goodie bag for us. :)
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
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ijabz_
haha, well worked punchline
2011-05-10 13054, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
:)
2011-05-10 13002, 2011
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ruaok
there is more, but its smaller stuff.
2011-05-10 13011, 2011
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ruaok
I've got a ton of positive feedback.
2011-05-10 13024, 2011
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ruaok
including a pile of congratulations to the team for getting ready to ship NGS.
2011-05-10 13032, 2011
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ruaok
*everyone* knew what NGS is.
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
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ruaok
very odd. its seems that MB has really arrived in the industry.