#musicbrainz-devel

meeting time!

whoo

hello!

a *lot* of stuff has happened in the last week.

OMFG

ruaok has changed the topic to: agenda: MB general update/SFMT/Hack day, review, server tuning, [what else?]

sit back and relax for a minute. there are a ton of updates on many things. :)

:)

first, Amplifind is no more.

the intellectual property of the company was sold by its investors to none other than...

Ponies and sunshine and myspace and glitter!!

disgracenote.

thanks MBChatLogger

eep

woah

we've been told that since our contract is perpetual that our serivce would continue indefinitely.

which brings us to santa claus.

there aint so santa claus, sorry leftmost.

Ponies and sunshine and myspace and glitter!!

and gracenote indefintely providing FREE service to MB is also not going to happen.

so, I'm being lied to as far as I can tell.

I know that at least one customer has a contract through Sept.

I think amplifind is honouring all paid contracts ntil they expire

\

that contract will be honered, so I'm sure we have service that long.

ok

yep, but I had no luck determining the longest contract.

and yours wil stop when the last paid contract expires

so, Im going with the one figure I know.

ijabz_: thats clear to me. :)

but that wasn't what was said.

so, once they shut down the service we can invoke the clause to get the source code.

which is completely useless. without the patent license behind the code, we can't operate the service.

fun fun fun.

lol

which brings me to the next topic.

alastair1: ping

alastairp: ping

alastairp: is going to manually be our puid lookup bot?

cool!

haha

alastair will be interning with the echonest over the summer.

sweet!

starting on NGS release day he will start working on their fingerprint services and getting those shipped.

so, that is very exciting.

and with luks hacking on his own open service, we'll have TWO services soon.

(they just need to be integrated/finished)

yep.

indeed, acoustid/chromaprint is looking very nice.

+1

and that will be the tricky thing, but we're going to start with planning everything out.

yep. so, may the best service win.

in either case MB wins.

we do have until september to get this right, at least :)

so, thats that.

yeah.

next topic:

I spoke with brewster kahle, the HNIC at archive.org yesterday.

HNIC?

i asked him about the cover art archive proposal I've talked about and he his response was: Yes, we want to do this.

nikki: urban dictionary. :)

wooo!

he said: "You are doing excellent work with MusicBrainz" and the gave me a hug.

nice

awesome

when one of your heros says you and your team is doing great work and give you a hug, thats big.

so, we're going to have a cooperation with the internet archive to create a cover art archive.

Yay! :D

everything wil be hosted at the archive.

do we know the next steps on that?

MusicBrainz will curate the collection.

that is badass

will it cover more than just the front cover?

100%. badass.

MB will be the only entity be able to write to the archive.

everyone will be able to read.

the legal side is covered by their mission,.

wow, that sounds perfect.

wow again

(I mean, will we be able to basically add back cover, obis, cd pictures too?)

brewster says: "If someone wants to sue me: Fuck em. Let em sue me. I've been sued by the best"

hah

which is HIUUUUUUUUUGE.

nikki: I think we should scan everythign.

\o/

I think when we have a moment to breathe, someone should start a whishlist page on the wiki.

what should we do?

how should we do it?

how do we deal with copyright violation notices.

what do we want, is an important question too

this has been brewing for a while, so I have a bunch of questions in my head already.

once we understand that in detail, we can understand how to present it and how to collect it

ocharles: exactly.

what *I* want is something that is easy to fetch.

like:

coverart.archive.org/<mb release id>.jpg

which has... everything?

coverart.archive.org/<mb release id>-1.jpg

(if we're scanning more than just the front)

there we go :)

coverart.archive.org/<mb release id>-2.jpg

so you can go through the pages of cover art.

not just the front, but everythying people want to scan in.

ok, have a think about this.

but lets keep focused on NGS. :)

next!

yes, it keeps going.

but yea, that

lyrics TOO?

next you'll tell us we have events too :P

warp: agreed -- I;m just throwing out there that I want it to be cake to access!

What else do we get, free gummy bears for all?

ianmcorvidae: akshually, yes.

hah

reosarevok: that too!

ruaok: ok, I'll give you my address :p

so, MXM has agreed to pay for airfare for ocharles warp and me to come to bologna.

ruaok needs to go to musichackdays more often, they seem to be good for MB ;)

we're going to have MB/MXM hack days where the two teams hack out lyrics support in a few days.

I'm really looking forward to this internal hackday

its not much work to do it right.

maybe we can squeeze out a summit too!~

How would lyrics work?

Collaborative?

reosarevok: lets talk about that later.

Ok

we lots of other stuff to cover.

and yes, concert listings will also come soon.

<3 them

so, that will also happen.

so do many other people.

and their team was at SF hack day.

wait. santa does exist.

he just emptied his goodie bag for us. :)

haha, well worked punchline

:)

there is more, but its smaller stuff.

I've got a ton of positive feedback.

including a pile of congratulations to the team for getting ready to ship NGS.

*everyone* knew what NGS is.

very odd. its seems that MB has really arrived in the industry.