just commenting on how much voting activity there is around now :)
2011-05-10 13050, 2011
ianmcorvidae
usually things get exactly three, or get fewer and expire at 2 weeks :P
2011-05-10 13038, 2011
reosarevok suspects one of the reasons he was made an autoeditor was to take his *huge* amount of unvoted edits out of the queue :p
2011-05-10 13047, 2011
ianmcorvidae
haha
2011-05-10 13051, 2011
nikki
isn't that always the case?
2011-05-10 13013, 2011
nikki
(well, nearly)
2011-05-10 13015, 2011
ianmcorvidae
"you make too many edits, be an autoeditor"
2011-05-10 13016, 2011
ianmcorvidae
lol
2011-05-10 13038, 2011
reosarevok
"you make too many edits in fields nobody votes on, be an autoeditor"
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
nikki
although obviously only if the person makes *good* edits
2011-05-10 13050, 2011
ianmcorvidae
well, yes
2011-05-10 13005, 2011
ocharles
ha, that didn't stop me!
2011-05-10 13006, 2011
ocharles
:P
2011-05-10 13031, 2011
reosarevok
ocharles: Not making good edits? :p
2011-05-10 13002, 2011
ocharles
reosarevok: well, I was being a bit sarcy, but when I got made auto-editor I felt I didn't deserve it
2011-05-10 13012, 2011
ocharles
but I asked to revert it and everyone said "NO. You'll put the edit queue back up"
2011-05-10 13013, 2011
ocharles
:P
2011-05-10 13049, 2011
ocharles
MBChatLogger: off
2011-05-10 13049, 2011
MBChatLogger
is not logging
2011-05-10 13047, 2011
MBChatLogger
is logging
2011-05-10 13050, 2011
reosarevok
ocharles: neither did I, but still, *nobody* was looking at 90% of my edits (most of the Spanish hip hop ones) at all, so it was like "well, the effect will be the same, just 2 weeks earlier"
2011-05-10 13000, 2011
ocharles
yep
2011-05-10 13047, 2011
ocharles
ok, I'm sorted for tomorrow. I'm going to get away from a desk now and unwind
2011-05-10 13048, 2011
ocharles
toodles!
2011-05-10 13057, 2011
ruaok
wait
2011-05-10 13009, 2011
ruaok
lets talk about the coverart script, then you can go.
2011-05-10 13023, 2011
ruaok
why can;t the coverart script add rows as needed?
2011-05-10 13027, 2011
ruaok
if the row isn't there, add it.
2011-05-10 13035, 2011
ruaok
seems like a very simple fix.
2011-05-10 13059, 2011
ianmcorvidae
bah, above 1k again
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
ijabz joined the channel
2011-05-10 13041, 2011
ruaok
wow. 6k open edits. <3
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
nikki
ruaok: I said earlier that it's like going back in time :)
2011-05-10 13021, 2011
ianmcorvidae
we should figure out a way for voting to be more palatable so this happens more often :)
2011-05-10 13032, 2011
nikki
subscribing to releases ;)
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
ianmcorvidae
haha, potentially
2011-05-10 13014, 2011
ruaok
agreed. the new edit system will need to address getting people to vote more.
2011-05-10 13056, 2011
reosarevok
ruaok: add achievements :p
2011-05-10 13012, 2011
ianmcorvidae
possibly would work
2011-05-10 13018, 2011
ruaok
put it on the edit system overhaul wishlist.
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
reosarevok
Make avatars
2011-05-10 13043, 2011
murdos
being able to see all edits related to a release though its editing history is already a big improvement re voting
2011-05-10 13050, 2011
nikki
yeah
2011-05-10 13059, 2011
reosarevok
"If you vote on 300 edits you get a nice hat for your avatar"
2011-05-10 13029, 2011
ianmcorvidae
"after you get the avatar in the first place, by voting on 100"
2011-05-10 13024, 2011
ruaok
heh. adding game strategies to just about everything seems pretty hip these days.
2011-05-10 13041, 2011
ianmcorvidae
it seems to work :P
2011-05-10 13007, 2011
reosarevok
"gamification" and "monetization" are the two words I see everywhere
2011-05-10 13015, 2011
reosarevok
You could… sell skins for the site :p
2011-05-10 13036, 2011
reosarevok
"Donate to get a star by your name!"
2011-05-10 13055, 2011
nikki
make it so people can donate money for particular features :P
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
nikki would sooo donate for a single login
2011-05-10 13007, 2011
ianmcorvidae
a bounty system would be sort of cool
2011-05-10 13011, 2011
reosarevok
A single login?
2011-05-10 13021, 2011
reosarevok
How many do we have?
2011-05-10 13023, 2011
ianmcorvidae
across wiki/main site/forums/etc
2011-05-10 13023, 2011
nikki
instead of one for the site, one for the wiki, one for the forums, one for jira...
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
reosarevok
Oh, ok
2011-05-10 13039, 2011
nikki
one for trac, one for code review... one for uservoice...
2011-05-10 13045, 2011
nikki is surely missing something
2011-05-10 13056, 2011
reosarevok would be happy enough with "remember me" working in all of them so I didn't have to worry too much
2011-05-10 13010, 2011
nikki
it works for me :P
2011-05-10 13015, 2011
reosarevok
Even in test?
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
nikki
yes
2011-05-10 13031, 2011
reosarevok
It kept logging me out until a couple days ago, but maybe that's solved
2011-05-10 13044, 2011
nikki
I don't like having to tell people that yes, they need to register again for the forum, and again for the wiki though
2011-05-10 13012, 2011
reosarevok
"You need to register again for the forum… so why not come to the mailing list instead?"
2011-05-10 13030, 2011
ruaok
lol
2011-05-10 13040, 2011
ruaok
but I agree with the single sign on. its needed.
2011-05-10 13005, 2011
reosarevok
Along with the murder with fire of half of our pages
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
nikki looks at http://test.musicbrainz.org/release/fd5da018-9897-47c1-b283-7ba44bdf1b79 and wonders if we should get rid of the various highlights on release pages and just have a highlighted bar saying "This release has open edits!" or something
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
reosarevok
Well, wiki pages too
2011-05-10 13036, 2011
reosarevok
But I meant uservoice / trac / probably something else
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
ianmcorvidae has been seriously considering installing mediawiki on my VPS and trying to rebuild a useful wiki from the ground up :P
2011-05-10 13012, 2011
ruaok
ianmcorvidae: I think once we have NGS out we will all have more time to work on cleaning the wiki.
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2011-05-10 13024, 2011
ruaok
if we have a wiki cleanup day, we might be able to make LOT of changes.
2011-05-10 13030, 2011
ianmcorvidae
it's a post-NGS project one way or the other :)
2011-05-10 13059, 2011
ruaok
lol
2011-05-10 13003, 2011
ruaok
if that is how people want to do it...
2011-05-10 13007, 2011
ruaok
I'm ok with that.
2011-05-10 13024, 2011
nikki would rather use mb-style for style stuff
2011-05-10 13034, 2011
reosarevok
ianmcorvidae: that's what is being done in NGS, kind of. "these are the adapted rules. If you don't like them, change them"
2011-05-10 13042, 2011
nikki
once upon a time people used to actually edit the wiki :P
2011-05-10 13050, 2011
ianmcorvidae
reosarevok: yup :)
2011-05-10 13053, 2011
ocharles
ruaok: it's not the cover art scripts job to be adding rows. I think we either add a step to MBImport to do it, or sanitise it
2011-05-10 13056, 2011
reosarevok would to, except because any important change gets stalled lately
2011-05-10 13002, 2011
reosarevok
*would too, even
2011-05-10 13010, 2011
reosarevok
(rather use mb-style)
2011-05-10 13012, 2011
ruaok
ocharles: why can't it be the job?
2011-05-10 13024, 2011
ruaok
makes full sense to me.
2011-05-10 13025, 2011
ianmcorvidae
it took me about a year of being part of musicbrainz to not be afraid of editing the thing for fear of the righteous hammer of mb-style coming down on my poor noggin
2011-05-10 13046, 2011
ocharles
ruaok: it's mixing responsibilities. now we have 2 places release_coverart rows come from, not one.
2011-05-10 13013, 2011
reosarevok
ianmcorvidae: yup, that's part of the problem
2011-05-10 13013, 2011
ruaok
fine. santize it.
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
ocharles
i can sanitize it, or generate the rows on import
2011-05-10 13037, 2011
ruaok
just sanitize
2011-05-10 13039, 2011
ocharles
ok
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
ruaok
should we try and look at the stuck process issue or are you totally done for the day?
2011-05-10 13030, 2011
ocharles
i'm done, brain can't even handle a book now it seems
nikki wonders if people like murdos or ruaok would have any objections to using "automatically applied" on the server instead, since it's only used on about 4 pages (we can still say in the docs that people call them auto-edits for short)
2011-05-10 13018, 2011
ocharles
i can dig the laptop out if so
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
murdos
ocharles: if possible, yes. I want to patch MBImport
2011-05-10 13024, 2011
ocharles
murdos: ok, one mo
2011-05-10 13026, 2011
ijabz joined the channel
2011-05-10 13050, 2011
ruaok
nikki: no objections here.
2011-05-10 13047, 2011
reosarevok
While we're at that, let's change "autoeditor" for "awesomeditor"!
2011-05-10 13052, 2011
reosarevok hides
2011-05-10 13013, 2011
Leftmost
reosarevok, not until I'm an autoeditor.
2011-05-10 13022, 2011
murdos
nikki: a distinction sill stands between an accepted edit (auto-edit), and a edit whose result is instantaneously visible (add release vs an edit recording title)
2011-05-10 13001, 2011
murdos
...instantaneously visible but still subject to vote and thus pending
2011-05-10 13018, 2011
reosarevok
thus not applied, then
2011-05-10 13020, 2011
nikki
we don't use "automatically applied" to refer to those though, do we?
2011-05-10 13004, 2011
murdos
no, it's not really related, but I know new users are often confused
2011-05-10 13059, 2011
murdos
that's why they try to remove things whereas the add edit is still pending
