mostly looking at the best way to convert the search options into something that uses a provided mbid
2011-06-08 15924, 2011
ruaok
you mean ws/2 calls?
2011-06-08 15932, 2011
Batsy
Yeah, to convert the ws/js calls for the widgets (they take a search query and not an MBID in the existing file, so)
2011-06-08 15938, 2011
ruaok
do you have anything to look at yet? or are you stuck on this issue?
2011-06-08 15909, 2011
Batsy
Not anything terribly impressive due to this issue, but I've managed to kind of pare down the file to stuff I can re-appropriate
2011-06-08 15912, 2011
Batsy
if that makes sense
2011-06-08 15913, 2011
ruaok nods
2011-06-08 15935, 2011
ruaok
I'd love to look at whatever you have to get a sense for where you are and where I can help.
2011-06-08 15903, 2011
Batsy
ok, I'll email the file, one sec
2011-06-08 15932, 2011
Batsy
sent
2011-06-08 15927, 2011
ruaok waits for his computer
2011-06-08 15903, 2011
ruaok
indeed, that isn't very much.
2011-06-08 15935, 2011
ruaok
you really need to pick up the pace and spend more time working on this if you want to make it past the mid-terms.
2011-06-08 15946, 2011
Batsy
yeah, I know
2011-06-08 15913, 2011
ruaok
I gave you 3 more days to get something meaningful done and you don't have anything.
2011-06-08 15938, 2011
ruaok
I'm getting the impression you started looking at this about an hour ago.
2011-06-08 15951, 2011
ruaok
I'm not getting the impression that you hacked on this all weekend.
2011-06-08 15915, 2011
ruaok
and given that you haven't really sought my help, I'm not sure where to go next.
2011-06-08 15925, 2011
ruaok
what do you think?
2011-06-08 15931, 2011
Batsy
I did look at it over the weekend, but the jsonp thing wasn't really resolved until yesterday, which is where I was mostly stuck
2011-06-08 15956, 2011
Batsy
what I'm not sure of still is where to like
2011-06-08 15911, 2011
ruaok
well, you had all day today to make some progress, but there isn't any.
2011-06-08 15920, 2011
ruaok
and there are a dozen things you could be working on.
2011-06-08 15926, 2011
ruaok
styling some html.
2011-06-08 15933, 2011
ruaok
writing some pages where people make widgets.
2011-06-08 15957, 2011
ruaok
if you get stuck on something its your job to get help.
2011-06-08 15915, 2011
ruaok
and my job to help you, but you need to ask for help first.
2011-06-08 15937, 2011
Batsy
I am probably spending a little too much time poring over stuff, which is an issue I sometimes have
2011-06-08 15910, 2011
Batsy
I can certainly work on it more now
2011-06-08 15926, 2011
ruaok
ok, what areas of the project are clear to you? what could you jump in and get some work done FAST?
2011-06-08 15936, 2011
Batsy
the quickest thing I could do is probably build some of the basic web interfaces
2011-06-08 15948, 2011
Batsy
at least the framework, if not the backend implementation
2011-06-08 15915, 2011
Batsy
HTML and jquery if not the perl, basically
2011-06-08 15941, 2011
ruaok
that sounds like a good approach.
2011-06-08 15909, 2011
Batsy
I'll get started on that, then, and continue to spend a bits of time hacking away at this - I think I'm having trouble getting started, mostly, which is frustrating, and not good, but is sort of a typical issue I have
2011-06-08 15919, 2011
Mineo_ joined the channel
2011-06-08 15932, 2011
luks joined the channel
2011-06-08 15956, 2011
ruaok
and its an easy problem to have if you don't know the language or all of the tools that are used.
2011-06-08 15944, 2011
ruaok
ok, here are some thoughts on how to help you:
2011-06-08 15958, 2011
ruaok
1. first, work on the html/jquery side of things.
2011-06-08 15911, 2011
ruaok
2. also spend time thinking about the web service.
2011-06-08 15925, 2011
ruaok
3. Don't implement something fancy to start with.
2011-06-08 15934, 2011
ruaok
(for the ws/js stuff)
2011-06-08 15947, 2011
ruaok
start with returning a static string of stuff for a web service call.
2011-06-08 15957, 2011
ruaok
just return some data. something. anything.
2011-06-08 15905, 2011
Batsy nod
2011-06-08 15913, 2011
ruaok
then use your HTML work to somehow do something with the data.
2011-06-08 15926, 2011
ruaok
maybe your ws/js sends some mocked-up data.
2011-06-08 15939, 2011
ruaok
yeah, do that.
2011-06-08 15943, 2011
Batsy
okay.
2011-06-08 15953, 2011
ruaok
define all of the calls you expect to make to the ws/js.
2011-06-08 15913, 2011
ruaok
write up a short document that lists all the ws urls needed to support all of the functions you need to call.
2011-06-08 15926, 2011
ruaok
mail that to me, and I'll critique it.
2011-06-08 15931, 2011
Batsy
okay, will do
2011-06-08 15942, 2011
ruaok
show me what URLs you want to use. what arugments you expect to send.
2011-06-08 15956, 2011
ruaok
and what jsonp stuff they will return.
2011-06-08 15915, 2011
ruaok
after that, hook up the HTML side of things to call the mock-service.
2011-06-08 15958, 2011
ruaok
that should get you going and allow you to get some data flowing.
2011-06-08 15902, 2011
Batsy
right.
2011-06-08 15917, 2011
ruaok
once that is working, you and I can talk in more detail about what each of the ws function actually needs to do.
2011-06-08 15932, 2011
ruaok
by then you should have gotten over the OMFG where do I start problem.
2011-06-08 15959, 2011
Batsy
yeah.
2011-06-08 15900, 2011
ruaok
but realisically, if you're stuck on something, I expect you to email me.
2011-06-08 15903, 2011
ruaok
ask me questions.
2011-06-08 15908, 2011
ruaok
ask *anyone* questions.
2011-06-08 15915, 2011
ruaok
warp and ocharles know a ton of shit more than I do.
2011-06-08 15929, 2011
ruaok
and they're always around in some form or another.
2011-06-08 15934, 2011
Batsy
okay.
2011-06-08 15901, 2011
ruaok
I'm totally down with making sure you get everything you need to succeed in this mission, but you have to reach out and let us help you.
2011-06-08 15927, 2011
ruaok
so, I'd like to see the design doc for the ws/js stuff... tomorrow morning.
2011-06-08 15937, 2011
Batsy
okay.
2011-06-08 15944, 2011
ruaok
tight, but doable. show me some effort. I really need to see it right now.
2011-06-08 15923, 2011
Batsy
I will get on that.
2011-06-08 15924, 2011
ruaok
and if I ask you for an update on your progress and you say you're stuck and you didn't ask anyone, no more gummy bears!
2011-06-08 15941, 2011
ruaok puts down the riot act
2011-06-08 15949, 2011
ruaok
aight. any questions for me?
2011-06-08 15920, 2011
nikki thinks Batsy should ask more questions in here, so she's not the only girl asking questions for once :P
2011-06-08 15924, 2011
Batsy
lol
2011-06-08 15936, 2011
Batsy
I think we're clear for now and if any come up I'll pose them in here or email you
2011-06-08 15937, 2011
ruaok
srsly.
2011-06-08 15943, 2011
ruaok
do listen to nikki.
2011-06-08 15903, 2011
ruaok
I know she could probably answer most of your questions.
2011-06-08 15912, 2011
nikki
hehe
2011-06-08 15921, 2011
ruaok
there are tons of people who love to help present.
2011-06-08 15906, 2011
Batsy nod
2011-06-08 15914, 2011
reosarevok notes he's probably the only one who can't really help with coding stuff around, which leaves you with 22 people
2011-06-08 15926, 2011
ruaok
lol
2011-06-08 15945, 2011
ruaok
though you might very well know where to find stuff Batsy might be looking for.
2011-06-08 15948, 2011
ruaok
thats of value too
2011-06-08 15948, 2011
reosarevok
True
2011-06-08 15901, 2011
reosarevok
That's why I specified *coding* stuff
2011-06-08 15902, 2011
reosarevok
:)
2011-06-08 15912, 2011
Batsy
haha, yup
2011-06-08 15918, 2011
Batsy
so if we're good for the moment, I think I'mma take a break to feed myself and the dogs and the plants (and such)
2011-06-08 15921, 2011
Batsy
and then get back on stuff
2011-06-08 15948, 2011
ruaok
sounds fine. I'm going to go tinker on other computers that might kill me if I fuck up.
2011-06-08 15951, 2011
ruaok
wish me luck!
2011-06-08 15953, 2011
ruaok
:-)
2011-06-08 15959, 2011
Batsy
haha, have fun
2011-06-08 15932, 2011
ianmcorvidae imagines a movie entitled "Attack of the RMA" or such ;)
2011-06-08 15913, 2011
ruaok is building a one armed poi bot for burning man
