heh. I'll try and put my thoughts up on a wiki page
2011-11-07 31133, 2011
ruaok
nikki: it wasn't changed from what I know.
2011-11-07 31137, 2011
ruaok
this is how its always worked.
2011-11-07 31159, 2011
ruaok
the only thing that was changed as the notice at the top. and the border around non verified pages.
2011-11-07 31143, 2011
reosarevok thinks having a clearly delimited "in doc we trust" policy is good, but killing all links to the wiki from it is not
2011-11-07 31149, 2011
ruaok
well, we all agree that its a bit of a mess. lets look at it then.
2011-11-07 31151, 2011
reosarevok
Ok
2011-11-07 31151, 2011
ruaok
reosarevok: +1
2011-11-07 31102, 2011
ruaok
last, but not least BBC editors.
2011-11-07 31105, 2011
ruaok
was that you reosarevok ?
2011-11-07 31110, 2011
reosarevok
It was me
2011-11-07 31118, 2011
reosarevok
But it was more what we have talked a bit already in private
2011-11-07 31133, 2011
reosarevok
And it was added when I thought the journalists did the adding
2011-11-07 31139, 2011
reosarevok
If that's not the case, stuff changes
2011-11-07 31105, 2011
ruaok
its actually a company outside the BBC that does most of the editing of MB data these days.
2011-11-07 31110, 2011
ruaok
all under direction from the BBC.
2011-11-07 31115, 2011
ruaok
mike diver is one such person.
2011-11-07 31127, 2011
ruaok
he's not a direct BBC employess as I understand it.
2011-11-07 31133, 2011
reosarevok
It goes from "people doing stuff that is only marginally their work, getting community hate" to "people doing their work not too well, getting community hate"
2011-11-07 31142, 2011
reosarevok
None of them is ideal
2011-11-07 31147, 2011
ruaok
agreed.
2011-11-07 31155, 2011
ruaok
we're going to have a meeting on this in london.
2011-11-07 31158, 2011
ruaok
in Jan.
2011-11-07 31109, 2011
ruaok
and I have a feeling it might be a good idea for you to be there reosarevok.
2011-11-07 31114, 2011
reosarevok
:p
2011-11-07 31119, 2011
reosarevok
Tallinn - London is cheap
2011-11-07 31121, 2011
reosarevok
So I can do it
2011-11-07 31128, 2011
ruaok
we'd pay, of course.
2011-11-07 31130, 2011
reosarevok
Oh
2011-11-07 31136, 2011
reosarevok
Well, "we" are poor
2011-11-07 31137, 2011
ruaok
ok, lets leave it be for now. we're over time.
2011-11-07 31140, 2011
reosarevok
So the cheapness still counts :p
2011-11-07 31146, 2011
ruaok
I appreciate that.
2011-11-07 31147, 2011
warp
:D
2011-11-07 31159, 2011
ruaok
ok, donuts mr warp.
2011-11-07 31109, 2011
warp
yes, sir!
2011-11-07 31111, 2011
ruaok
I'm looking forward to you being in a closer timezeon to me, warp.
2011-11-07 31114, 2011
ruaok
thanks for everyone's time.
2011-11-07 31118, 2011
ruaok
lots and lots of stuff going on.
2011-11-07 31131, 2011
ruaok
hopefully things will calm down a little next week. :)
seems not, but doesn't make any sense to me Im trying to get some help from lucene guys
2011-11-07 31159, 2011
ruaok
thats really weird.
2011-11-07 31126, 2011
ijabz
but in the meantime might help if we could start stop the tomcat servers even so often until have a solution
2011-11-07 31121, 2011
ruaok
thats really hard.
2011-11-07 31123, 2011
ijabz
when it was returning the same artist, it had different country in each entry, so seemed that the artist had been changed and it was still hanging onto old entry
2011-11-07 31143, 2011
ruaok
if we want to do it cleanly, we need to take them out of rotation from the load balancer. and then put them back in.
2011-11-07 31144, 2011
ijabz
Alternatively we could try putting the init=mmap line back into the script
2011-11-07 31108, 2011
ijabz
Because init recreates should recreate the index searches
2011-11-07 31139, 2011
ijabz
I wonder if there is some problem with how the new indexes are copied over
