#musicbrainz-devel

I've never used this local lib thing before, but apparently it's magic and I should so I'm wondering what I need to do to install the mbserver dependencies with it

Anyone know if a weekly meeting is planned for tomorrow?

But as far as knowing... not really

Just wondering. It's a public holiday tomorrow in .uk, and maybe other territories too.

And additionally, I won't be available tomorrow evening (for an entirely separate reason)

Oh, I didn't know it was a holiday

Maybe it will be moved to Tue?

No idea

We definitely need to talk though, be it Mon or Tue

Being as we are 10 days away from a schema change release and all that

nod

ocharles, are you going to be here tomorrow night or should we do Tue?

djce, how much you have to say about the server issues?

(+ we got the new servers now and it might tie into it)

How much? <shrug> a couple of minutes. If we're meeting tomorrow then I could just post my thoughts to the list.

Oh, ok

hope this is the proper channel to ask, but I'm wondering about http://musicbrainz.org/release/55f6b7ae-029f-4e... and how python-musicbrainz2 doesn't understand the discs there.. release.getDiscs() returns []

python-musicbrainz-2 doesn't understand NGS

but as it seems the web, the release on the web there, knows it's got two discs, there's probably something in the api?

that's what I was afraid of it being...

is the next version usable yet?

I am not sure how complete it is, but you should probably check it and see if it works for you

otherwise I've been very happy thus far, but not being able to rip discs into separate directories by disc number is obviously an issue ;)

python-musicbrainz-ngs is fairly usable at the moment; not sure if alastairp merged my change for custom UA handling

which you'll want to have :)

ianmcorvidae: you're listed in the credits so probably yes

ah, okay then :)

yup, I just did it yesterday

yay :)

cool

I'm just going to rip my one-disc releases for now, it's getting kinda late for code

https://github.com/mjtorn/ripwhine gotta advertise the software I wrote to do all this ,;)

http://git.musicbrainz.org/gitweb/?p=python-mus... <- btw, what's that then?

entil: unmaintained :P

iirc it was the first attempt at a version for ngs but it was never even finished

hehe, looks so

nikki: s/finished/started/

:)

well it was *started*, it just never went anywhere :P

anyway, gotta say it's really cool to have something like musicbrainz around, I even registered to submit data on a disc

and even more cool that -ngs seems to allow updating data, if I ever get around to implementing that in ripwhine

bad gateway :o

just trying to do this over the web

try refreshing the page

yeah

just mentioning it here in case it's something developers care about

it's a known issue :/

also had severe problems attaching a toc to the release when searching for an artist, I just couldn't figure that out and was probably going to do something very stupid

because of the radio buttons?

sorry people, rebooting astro to try to fix a server issue. docs and reports will be unavailable.

nikki: no, it's because the web looks like you can either select the radio button or click the link to make it happen - or at least that's how I read it

and when you open the link you kinda gravitate towards adding a duplicate of the release

fortunately I did not do this but just added the toc and now I'm ripping the disc ;P

there used to just be a button to click next to the release

I wonder if that would have been less confusing

pretty sure there's a ticket for just that

I dunno, because once you get to the release list it's clear enough, at least to me

ocharles: I know there is for what I mentioned because I reported it :P

but the link next to the radio button? confusing as hell

if you had only the artist name, it'd be obvious

ohh, the list of artists

because it opens the artist page

takes you off the track of what you're trying to do

ocharles: do you know of a perl module for unescaping characters in html?

unescaping in what sense?

&lt; to <?

yes

HTML::Entities

:D

thanks!

more weirdness, this time release.getId() returns None which upsets query.getReleaseById(release.getId(), release_includes)

iirc that separate thing was needed for extra data

there's no disc id for it in http://musicbrainz.org/release/b290c856-7a74-42... but that's the disc .. guess I'll just look at submitting it as well, but just saying in case you want to know :)

huh? http://mm.musicbrainz.org/bare/cdlookup.html?to...

cd stub?

cd stubs let people submit a tracklist and disc id without being logged in (basically freedb with more accurate disc ids :P), they're not stored in the main part of the database though so they don't have links to artists or anything

and people who are logged in and import them so that they're entered properly

er, who are logged in *can* import them

I was given the choice of importing the stub or attaching the id, I attached the id

that was probably the right thing to do

finnish semi-underground black metal seems exactly the stuff to test with because it's not popular enough to have been peer-reviewed a million times by the community ;)

Ooooh

That sounds interesting

Feel free to give some recommendations while you're at it :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajattara_%28band%29 is what I'm adding/ripping now

hi!

I'm wondering if we should do the dev meeting tomorrow or tuesday.

I guess ocharles may not be able to make it on tuesday.

you haven't seen mb-devel then

and hi!

ruaok: I can probably make 8pm tuesday

but yea, could be tight

cya in the morning!

I'm new to MusicBrainz and had a (hopefully) quick quesion about importing the database dump. Is this the right place to ask?

I'm new to MusicBrainz and had a (hopefully) quick quesion about importing the database dump. Is this the right place to ask?

yeah

Should be

Cool, thanks. I'm a lamp developer and do dev work on windows. I've got Postgres and pgAdmin III installed on my Windows laptop and I downloaded mbdump.tar.bz2 and extracted the mbdump folder therein. I'm just unclear how to import the mbdump folder. The README says "To import them, you need a compatible version of the MusicBrainz server software." Does that mean I can't just import the data into Postgres without insta

Of course, that's if someone else is awake and not in bed with a NYE hangover :p

Thanks and happy ny!

Guest46653: the dumps are just tab separated files

so if you get a copy of the db schema and create the tables, you can use copy to import them, for example

That makes sense, but I guess I'm used to windows/mysql (where I just run SQL that creates schema and loads data). This seems different. I thought I'd be able to use pgAdmin to import the tar but that didn't work. Do you know where I get the schema and how to import it?

the server code including the sql to create the tables is in git - http://git.musicbrainz.org/gitweb/?p=musicbrain...

not really sure how to actually import the data though, I've never tried with windows or pgadmin

Nikke: thanks so much! When you say COPY, are you referring to a file copy or a postgres command?

postgres command

Nikke: thanks again!