#musicbrainz-devel

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      • ruaok
        ok, I'm running branch caa on rika now.
      • 2012-04-26 11740, 2012

      • ruaok
        is that reasonable?
      • 2012-04-26 11736, 2012

      • warp
        ruaok: do you have a seperate database on rika? or are the other sandboxes just running with a caa updated database as well?
      • 2012-04-26 11704, 2012

      • ruaok
        I'm using the static DB that others are also using.
      • 2012-04-26 11709, 2012

      • warp
        ok
      • 2012-04-26 11701, 2012

      • ruaok
      • 2012-04-26 11714, 2012

      • ruaok
        We do not currently have any cover art
      • 2012-04-26 11716, 2012

      • ruaok
        when we do.
      • 2012-04-26 11723, 2012

      • ruaok
        I can see where confusion will come from.
      • 2012-04-26 11728, 2012

      • ruaok
        nikki: ping
      • 2012-04-26 11758, 2012

      • nikki
        pong
      • 2012-04-26 11759, 2012

      • warp
        ruaok: yeah. inconsistencies between archive.org and database.
      • 2012-04-26 11707, 2012

      • ruaok
        nikki: you following this?
      • 2012-04-26 11712, 2012

      • nikki
        no
      • 2012-04-26 11716, 2012

      • nikki just got back
      • 2012-04-26 11727, 2012

      • warp
        ruaok: this is also why we need some form of development environment for this + instructions on how to set it up.
      • 2012-04-26 11729, 2012

      • ruaok
        please read the backscroll wrt to final caa testing.
      • 2012-04-26 11707, 2012

      • ruaok
        right. seems to be working to submit cover art.
      • 2012-04-26 11757, 2012

      • ruaok
        yay, no more port 82. :)
      • 2012-04-26 11735, 2012

      • ocharles
        hola
      • 2012-04-26 11747, 2012

      • ruaok
        hola
      • 2012-04-26 11751, 2012

      • ocharles
        ruaok: why are we using github for metabrainz issues?
      • 2012-04-26 11719, 2012

      • ruaok
        I'm using them more for personal notes than official issues, tbh.
      • 2012-04-26 11750, 2012

      • ocharles
        ah, ok
      • 2012-04-26 11753, 2012

      • ruaok
        nikki: caa.mbsandbox.org is ready for final CAA testing!
      • 2012-04-26 11706, 2012

      • ruaok
        (I think)
      • 2012-04-26 11745, 2012

      • ocharles
        and yes, the images in s3 don't matter
      • 2012-04-26 11754, 2012

      • ocharles
        in ia*
      • 2012-04-26 11709, 2012

      • ocharles
        we never do index listings by listing buckets, and we'll never generate an ID that was already in use (unless time somehow starts going backwards)
      • 2012-04-26 11747, 2012

      • ruaok
        ah, that explains a few things. good.
      • 2012-04-26 11754, 2012

      • ruaok
        then things appear to be working fine.
      • 2012-04-26 11702, 2012

      • ruaok
        at least from my cursory glance.
      • 2012-04-26 11702, 2012

      • ocharles
        excellent
      • 2012-04-26 11739, 2012

      • ocharles
        how does that "Asshole" release have front cover art that's not in the cover art listing?
      • 2012-04-26 11731, 2012

      • ruaok
        I'm guessing that is because the caa schema on rika doesn't know about it, but the DB on rika does and it pulls up an older image.
      • 2012-04-26 11731, 2012

      • ocharles
        is coverartarchive.org pointing at the right db?
      • 2012-04-26 11741, 2012

      • ruaok
        they both point to rika now.
      • 2012-04-26 11722, 2012

      • ocharles
        that image comes from coverartarchive.org, not the database though
      • 2012-04-26 11732, 2012

      • ijabz
        ocharles hi, could I have your input on chat I had with warp at 7.03pm - 7.38 pm please
      • 2012-04-26 11722, 2012

      • ocharles
        ruaok: http://ia600800.s3dns.us.archive.org/mbid-7cf1691… the indexer doesn't seem to be running?
      • 2012-04-26 11733, 2012

      • ruaok goes to look
      • 2012-04-26 11751, 2012

      • ruaok
        maybe because I haven't installed it yet?
      • 2012-04-26 11754, 2012

      • ruaok looks sheepish
      • 2012-04-26 11750, 2012

      • ocharles
        but was pgq installed with cover_art_archive triggers?
      • 2012-04-26 11706, 2012

      • ocharles
        if so, it'll reindex the moment you launch the daemon
      • 2012-04-26 11708, 2012

      • ruaok
        dunno. I followed the instructions.
      • 2012-04-26 11709, 2012

      • ocharles
        ijabz: ok
      • 2012-04-26 11748, 2012

      • ocharles
        we need a nagios check that pgq and the indexer are running too
      • 2012-04-26 11757, 2012

      • ocharles
        a nagios check that the lag isn't huge would be good too
      • 2012-04-26 11708, 2012

      • ruaok
        ocharles: you should open an MBH ticket for that with explicit instructions for how djce can test that.
      • 2012-04-26 11719, 2012

      • ruaok
        how do I install the caa triggers?
      • 2012-04-26 11721, 2012

      • ocharles
        i don't know how nagios works or anything
      • 2012-04-26 11734, 2012

      • ocharles
      • 2012-04-26 11742, 2012

      • ocharles
        step 5
      • 2012-04-26 11743, 2012

      • ruaok
        ocharles: you dont have to know how nagios works.
      • 2012-04-26 11745, 2012

      • ocharles
        ijabz: i don't really have any input right now, would have to look at commit logs to see why that was added
      • 2012-04-26 11755, 2012

      • ruaok
        you just need to tell djce how to test for the delay.
      • 2012-04-26 11759, 2012

      • ruaok
        he can do the rest.
      • 2012-04-26 11703, 2012

      • ocharles
        ok
      • 2012-04-26 11707, 2012

      • ocharles
        that's an output of pgqadm
      • 2012-04-26 11713, 2012

      • ruaok
        a sample shell script would be of great use.
      • 2012-04-26 11714, 2012

      • ocharles
        so hopefully that's easy enough
      • 2012-04-26 11739, 2012

      • ijabz
        ok, Ill raise a bug to remind us (though may not be a bug)
      • 2012-04-26 11750, 2012

      • ocharles
        i don't think it is a bug
      • 2012-04-26 11757, 2012

      • ocharles
        email me instead and i'll look more tomorrow
      • 2012-04-26 11702, 2012

      • ocharles
        actually
      • 2012-04-26 11704, 2012

      • ocharles
        no harm in a ticket i guess
      • 2012-04-26 11709, 2012

      • ocharles
        carry on :)
      • 2012-04-26 11712, 2012

      • warp
        lol
      • 2012-04-26 11723, 2012

      • ijabz
        Yeah, Im not saying its a bug, but better documented in jira
      • 2012-04-26 11740, 2012

      • ocharles nods
      • 2012-04-26 11700, 2012

      • ruaok
        ocharles: the caa indexer readme is a bit conflicting.
      • 2012-04-26 11709, 2012

      • ijabz
        Also while your here, couldn't find file or diff for the release group type splitting schema chnages
      • 2012-04-26 11709, 2012

      • ruaok
        wait, never mind.
      • 2012-04-26 11759, 2012

      • ocharles
        ruaok: also, need input on http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-4607 as that's entirely by design (when linking to an asin, include the musicbrainz affiliate tag)
      • 2012-04-26 11715, 2012

      • ocharles
        ijabz: that might only be on my desktop then
      • 2012-04-26 11747, 2012

      • ruaok
        ocharles: ok
      • 2012-04-26 11714, 2012

      • nikki
        we have a report that lists amazon links that need cleaning up, there's really no reason for anyone to care about the amazon url other than to check that the domain and asin are right
      • 2012-04-26 11731, 2012

      • ruaok
        nikki: can you please put that into a comment on the ticket?
      • 2012-04-26 11734, 2012

      • nikki
        so as long as the url works, someone like me or salo.rock will clean it up if it needs it
      • 2012-04-26 11742, 2012

      • ijabz
        Anyone. is it possible to edit the new track number field in a release yet on test, i tried but nothing happened ?
      • 2012-04-26 11730, 2012

      • ocharles
        python hackers: is it possible to remove multiple items from a dictionary with 'del'?
      • 2012-04-26 11740, 2012

      • ocharles
        can i del something['foo', 'bar']?
      • 2012-04-26 11750, 2012

      • ruaok
        I dont think so.
      • 2012-04-26 11707, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        you could do a list comprehension and throw away the result, that's probably how I'd do it
      • 2012-04-26 11719, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        [del something[entry] for entry in ['foo', 'bar']]
      • 2012-04-26 11721, 2012

      • ruaok nods at ianmcorvidae
      • 2012-04-26 11745, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        more concise than writing out the loop for real, but otherwise equivalent
      • 2012-04-26 11750, 2012

      • ocharles
        I actually only need the del for the side effect
      • 2012-04-26 11759, 2012

      • ocharles
        (it's a memcached store)
      • 2012-04-26 11715, 2012

      • ocharles
        yay, mutation, yay side effects
      • 2012-04-26 11719, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        del is nothing but a side effect :P
      • 2012-04-26 11724, 2012

      • warp
        :D
      • 2012-04-26 11726, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        hence throwing away the result
      • 2012-04-26 11729, 2012

      • ocharles
        oh, it's not persistent?
      • 2012-04-26 11740, 2012

      • ocharles
        (persistent in the sense of functional programming)
      • 2012-04-26 11755, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        not quite sure what you mean
      • 2012-04-26 11701, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        but all del does is decrement a reference count
      • 2012-04-26 11705, 2012

      • warp doesn't know what persistent in the sense of functional programming is.
      • 2012-04-26 11708, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        generally speaking
      • 2012-04-26 11713, 2012

      • ocharles
      • 2012-04-26 11746, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, no, python's not that functional AFAIK
      • 2012-04-26 11708, 2012

      • warp
        ocharles: del doesn't return anything.
      • 2012-04-26 11711, 2012

      • ocharles
        ok
      • 2012-04-26 11725, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        and yeah, that's what I meant by purely side-effect, it doesn't have a return value
      • 2012-04-26 11727, 2012

      • ocharles
        you can all critique this python in a moment :)
      • 2012-04-26 11731, 2012

      • warp
        ocharles: so it would be a bit pointless if it doesn't modify the input "in place"
      • 2012-04-26 11743, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        if it was haskell it'd presumably be :: a -> IO ()
      • 2012-04-26 11746, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        (or so)
      • 2012-04-26 11700, 2012

      • nikki
        ijabz: right now you can only add new tracks, editing the existing track numbers doesn't work
      • 2012-04-26 11717, 2012

      • ijabz
        k
      • 2012-04-26 11745, 2012

      • ocharles
        meh, i dunno why I don't just write this in haskell, but oh well :P
      • 2012-04-26 11730, 2012

      • adhawkins
        ocharles: Can you remember what we were talking about recently. About a schema change that was supposed to happen after 6 months?
      • 2012-04-26 11737, 2012

      • adhawkins
        I've forgotten what it was now :)
      • 2012-04-26 11745, 2012

      • ocharles
        adhawkins: disambiguation being misnamed?
      • 2012-04-26 11749, 2012

      • ocharles
        i think?
      • 2012-04-26 11702, 2012

      • adhawkins
        Ah yes, that's right. Got it now
      • 2012-04-26 11709, 2012

      • adhawkins
        Added the disambiguation element for release group, this is due to replace the badly name comment element but the comment element will not be removed for six months in order to preserve backwards compatability
      • 2012-04-26 11739, 2012

      • adhawkins
        That was written 9 months ago :)
      • 2012-04-26 11758, 2012

      • ocharles
        heh
      • 2012-04-26 11706, 2012

      • ocharles
        this is what happens when we don't have tickets :)
      • 2012-04-26 11706, 2012

      • adhawkins
        Shall I log an issue for it?
      • 2012-04-26 11732, 2012

      • ocharles
        please
      • 2012-04-26 11739, 2012

      • adhawkins
        Against what, server?
      • 2012-04-26 11729, 2012

      • ocharles
        yep
      • 2012-04-26 11740, 2012

      • adhawkins
        Ok
      • 2012-04-26 11745, 2012

      • ocharles
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      • adhawkins
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: any reason why you didn't setup logging for caaindexer?
      • 2012-04-26 11721, 2012

      • ocharles
        it does have logging
      • 2012-04-26 11742, 2012

      • ruaok
        the svc directory is missing the require log subdir.
      • 2012-04-26 11746, 2012

      • ruaok
        +d
      • 2012-04-26 11757, 2012

      • ocharles
        oh, oops
      • 2012-04-26 11704, 2012

      • ocharles
        i think hobbes has that
      • 2012-04-26 11708, 2012

      • ocharles
        must have not commited it
      • 2012-04-26 11710, 2012

      • ruaok
        pino does.
      • 2012-04-26 11725, 2012

      • ruaok
        make me a contributor to caa-indexer and I will commit.
      • 2012-04-26 11704, 2012

      • ocharles
        done
      • 2012-04-26 11708, 2012

      • ruaok
        thx
      • 2012-04-26 11716, 2012

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      • Hertog
        Heya!
      • 2012-04-26 11727, 2012

      • adhawkins
        What do people generally do with copyright notices at the top of source files?
      • 2012-04-26 11734, 2012

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      • adhawkins
        In libmb4 they pretty much all say Copyright (C) 2011 Andrew Hawkins
      • 2012-04-26 11701, 2012

      • adhawkins
        I can never remember to update the year when I change something :)
      • 2012-04-26 11738, 2012

      • Hertog
        I was wondering if anybody can help me install the musicbrainz-server
      • 2012-04-26 11705, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Maybe someone can
      • 2012-04-26 11717, 2012

      • reosarevok
        What is the problem?
      • 2012-04-26 11733, 2012

      • ocharles
        adhawkins: half the reason i'm quite against them