#musicbrainz-devel

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      • VectorX
        woah, there is a lot of people in here
      • 2012-05-13 13437, 2012

      • reosarevok
        plaintext: one needs permission to see that
      • 2012-05-13 13440, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hi VectorX
      • 2012-05-13 13446, 2012

      • VectorX
        hi reosarevok
      • 2012-05-13 13453, 2012

      • plaintext
        oops, I will fix it
      • 2012-05-13 13403, 2012

      • reosarevok
        plaintext: thanks :)
      • 2012-05-13 13421, 2012

      • VectorX
        is there a schema of the next gen db online ?
      • 2012-05-13 13448, 2012

      • plaintext
        fixed
      • 2012-05-13 13428, 2012

      • reosarevok
      • 2012-05-13 13444, 2012

      • plaintext
        I hope the numbers and realistic and I didn't mess anything up
      • 2012-05-13 13450, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (I assume that doesn't include the few changes that will be introduced in the next change on Tuesday)
      • 2012-05-13 13453, 2012

      • alastairp
        plaintext: it'd be interesting to see that broken down with user agent information
      • 2012-05-13 13457, 2012

      • alastairp
        do you have that much detail?
      • 2012-05-13 13417, 2012

      • VectorX
        reosarevok ok
      • 2012-05-13 13423, 2012

      • plaintext
        alastairp: The logs don't contain information on user agents :(
      • 2012-05-13 13425, 2012

      • alastairp
        e.g. is one of them the default for some popular renamer
      • 2012-05-13 13432, 2012

      • reosarevok
        pfft, 75% is ws/1?
      • 2012-05-13 13432, 2012

      • alastairp
        yeah, thought that might be the case
      • 2012-05-13 13443, 2012

      • reosarevok
        plaintext: maybe that should change
      • 2012-05-13 13400, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (no idea how hard that's to log etc though)
      • 2012-05-13 13412, 2012

      • plaintext
        I'll ask ruaok if he can do that
      • 2012-05-13 13434, 2012

      • plaintext
        this was on apr 30 or so, so the proportions could have changed since then
      • 2012-05-13 13437, 2012

      • reosarevok
        lol
      • 2012-05-13 13445, 2012

      • reosarevok
        3 million releases+artist
      • 2012-05-13 13445, 2012

      • alastairp
        though, user-agent is more of an http thing
      • 2012-05-13 13447, 2012

      • reosarevok
        headphones?
      • 2012-05-13 13452, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (ws/1)
      • 2012-05-13 13439, 2012

      • reosarevok
        That combination doesn't seem to be even in the top 10 for ws/2, yet it is 50% of ws/1
      • 2012-05-13 13406, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (well, I guess releases+media+artists is kinda the same?)
      • 2012-05-13 13424, 2012

      • plaintext
        yeah
      • 2012-05-13 13431, 2012

      • plaintext
        I'm not sure what the difference between ws1 and ws2 is
      • 2012-05-13 13440, 2012

      • reosarevok
        ws/1 is deprecated
      • 2012-05-13 13450, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But it seems 75% of people haven't heard / don't care :p
      • 2012-05-13 13455, 2012

      • plaintext
        I see
      • 2012-05-13 13405, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (it's there for backwards-compat and it's not even fully compatible)
      • 2012-05-13 13431, 2012

      • reosarevok
      • 2012-05-13 13435, 2012

      • plaintext
        thanks
      • 2012-05-13 13427, 2012

      • VectorX
        is there a doc that explains the edit/voting system in technical detail ?
      • 2012-05-13 13434, 2012

      • reosarevok
        For voting, you have the flowchart at http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Introduction_to_Voting
      • 2012-05-13 13454, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But depending on how technical the detail should be, you can look at the code :)
      • 2012-05-13 13408, 2012

      • VectorX
        :)
      • 2012-05-13 13432, 2012

      • VectorX
        im looking on git, guess it might take some time to find the place
      • 2012-05-13 13402, 2012

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      • 2012-05-13 13440, 2012

      • nikki
        ruaok: cover art uploading is broken again :(
      • 2012-05-13 13445, 2012

      • nikki
        it's not our day :/
      • 2012-05-13 13455, 2012

      • ruaok
        oy
      • 2012-05-13 13448, 2012

      • nikki
        it's the same error as before anyway
      • 2012-05-13 13418, 2012

      • ruaok goes to poke brewster
      • 2012-05-13 13438, 2012

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      • 2012-05-13 13420, 2012

      • nikki
        ocharles/warp: and http://test.musicbrainz.org/edit/17476305 has ARRAY(0xfoo) instead of ipis
      • 2012-05-13 13452, 2012

      • nikki
        ocharles: iswcs missing from http://test.musicbrainz.org/edit/17476318 despite both works having one
      • 2012-05-13 13419, 2012

      • ocharles
        oh good catch, i forgot about the merge display
      • 2012-05-13 13425, 2012

      • ocharles
        can you add that your schemachange bugs file thingy?
      • 2012-05-13 13442, 2012

      • nikki
        along with all the other lines I've been saying to you? :P
      • 2012-05-13 13422, 2012

      • ocharles
        yes please
      • 2012-05-13 13436, 2012

      • ocharles
        while i do try and go through weekend logs, there's a chance i'll miss stuff
      • 2012-05-13 13448, 2012

      • ocharles
        you said test was unstable or something though, is that anything specific?
      • 2012-05-13 13419, 2012

      • nikki
        warp restarted test and the errors have so far gone away
      • 2012-05-13 13432, 2012

      • nikki
        it was exactly the same as friday though. loads of errors about aborted transactions
      • 2012-05-13 13445, 2012

      • nikki
        on nothing specific and not reliably reproduceable
      • 2012-05-13 13447, 2012

      • ocharles
        ah that
      • 2012-05-13 13451, 2012

      • ocharles
        i have no idea what's going on there
      • 2012-05-13 13418, 2012

      • ocharles
        they seem to be sharing the same postgresql connection but not closing a transaction somewhere, it's odd
      • 2012-05-13 13433, 2012

      • nikki
        updated
      • 2012-05-13 13440, 2012

      • ocharles
        danke
      • 2012-05-13 13431, 2012

      • nikki
        oh, need to remove the bits that work
      • 2012-05-13 13414, 2012

      • nikki
        ok, all except vinyl track numbers and release group types updated
      • 2012-05-13 13443, 2012

      • ocharles
        ok, that's looking inline with the todos on http://ocharles.org.uk/schemachanges.html
      • 2012-05-13 13422, 2012

      • ocharles
        are we happy with the way release group types have been migrated, ignoring the audiobook problem (which i fixed - all audiobooks are now 'Other + Audibook')
      • 2012-05-13 13445, 2012

      • nikki
        I don't know, you were supposed to post on the mailing list (and forum, not that you can now) about it :P
      • 2012-05-13 13414, 2012

      • ocharles
        I was?
      • 2012-05-13 13423, 2012

      • ocharles
        Also, i can't reproduce that 'adding live ISE' one
      • 2012-05-13 13425, 2012

      • nikki
        well I said you should
      • 2012-05-13 13430, 2012

      • demosdemon
        ocharles: did you see my comment on http://codereview.musicbrainz.org/r/1872/
      • 2012-05-13 13453, 2012

      • ocharles
        demosdemon: probably not, and i'm not working til monday
      • 2012-05-13 13412, 2012

      • ocharles
        nikki: "http://test.musicbrainz.org/edit/17438946 has a blank value for secondary types. we don't show the type when it's missing right now, so I don't think we need to show it there either." is also fixed
      • 2012-05-13 13433, 2012

      • nikki
        reread what I said :P
      • 2012-05-13 13449, 2012

      • ocharles
        ok, cool
      • 2012-05-13 13405, 2012

      • nikki
        those two I haven't tested today
      • 2012-05-13 13412, 2012

      • nikki
        so I haven't checked which work and which don't
      • 2012-05-13 13420, 2012

      • ocharles
        gotcha
      • 2012-05-13 13421, 2012

      • demosdemon
        kk, it's cool. just something that needs to get fixed before tuesday's updae
      • 2012-05-13 13459, 2012

      • ocharles
        demosdemon: oh right, that looks trivial, and it's already in master so I can fix that from this laptop
      • 2012-05-13 13443, 2012

      • demosdemon lunches with various mothers
      • 2012-05-13 13405, 2012

      • nikki
        various mothers?
      • 2012-05-13 13422, 2012

      • demosdemon
        mine and other's
      • 2012-05-13 13429, 2012

      • demosdemon
        it's mothers day
      • 2012-05-13 13432, 2012

      • nikki
        oh
      • 2012-05-13 13447, 2012

      • nikki is glad that was a couple of months ago for her mum
      • 2012-05-13 13455, 2012

      • demosdemon
        a holiday solely intent on pointing out how terrible of a son I am
      • 2012-05-13 13430, 2012

      • ocharles
        hate mothers day
      • 2012-05-13 13432, 2012

      • ocharles
        and fathers day
      • 2012-05-13 13443, 2012

      • nikki
        I'm glad I don't have worry about fathers day
      • 2012-05-13 13457, 2012

      • nikki
        I hate christmas and birthdays too
      • 2012-05-13 13406, 2012

      • nikki
        I don't get why my mum wants to celebrate getting even older :P
      • 2012-05-13 13410, 2012

      • demosdemon
        i hate holidays in general
      • 2012-05-13 13413, 2012

      • ocharles
        birthdays i like because i get free beer
      • 2012-05-13 13420, 2012

      • ocharles
        oh, other peoples birthdays
      • 2012-05-13 13421, 2012

      • ocharles
        :P
      • 2012-05-13 13422, 2012

      • nikki
        demosdemon: yeah, same
      • 2012-05-13 13448, 2012

      • nikki
        I hate the whole "oh, it's such and such a day, you're *supposed* to do this that and the other" crap
      • 2012-05-13 13452, 2012

      • ocharles
        i don't hate holidays, i just hate these traditions of gifting
      • 2012-05-13 13402, 2012

      • nikki
        definitively
      • 2012-05-13 13412, 2012

      • nikki
        definitely even
      • 2012-05-13 13424, 2012

      • demosdemon
        well, the gifting holidays don't make me feel bad while I'm in college cause I'm not obliged to gift
      • 2012-05-13 13426, 2012

      • ocharles checks how behind with his open university course he is now
      • 2012-05-13 13429, 2012

      • demosdemon
        I regret the day I graduate
      • 2012-05-13 13448, 2012

      • nikki
        I'd much rather get a random present because someone saw something they knew I'd like than get twice as much stuff that I don't really want but on my birthday
      • 2012-05-13 13453, 2012

      • ocharles
        yep
      • 2012-05-13 13400, 2012

      • nikki
        the surprise makes it even better
      • 2012-05-13 13410, 2012

      • ocharles
        yep
      • 2012-05-13 13418, 2012

      • demosdemon
        I'm the same way
      • 2012-05-13 13420, 2012

      • nikki
        how are you doing with the ou stuff?
      • 2012-05-13 13441, 2012

      • ocharles
        the whole move and stuff got in the way and i was falling behind quite a bit
      • 2012-05-13 13459, 2012

      • ocharles
        had to cram an assignment in last weekend, and post it the day before. i'm not sure if it arrived in time and if i get penalised for that
      • 2012-05-13 13412, 2012

      • nikki was worrying about hers not arriving on time
      • 2012-05-13 13416, 2012

      • nikki
        but it seems it did
      • 2012-05-13 13428, 2012

      • ocharles
        you have to write the submission date on the tma form, so i'm hoping that counts as getting it there on time
      • 2012-05-13 13450, 2012

      • ocharles
        i have a feeling that's very optimistic though :p
      • 2012-05-13 13452, 2012

      • nikki
        I need to stop doing things last minute
      • 2012-05-13 13410, 2012

      • nikki
        my mother's day card cost a fucking fortune because I left it until the day before and had to choose special delivery
      • 2012-05-13 13415, 2012

      • ocharles
        i basically started and finished book C1 this weekend, except the annoying computer stuff
      • 2012-05-13 13420, 2012

      • ocharles
        haha
      • 2012-05-13 13428, 2012

      • ocharles
        i just send it second class and apologise on the phone :p
      • 2012-05-13 13431, 2012

      • reosarevok
        nikki: send a mail card :p
      • 2012-05-13 13434, 2012

      • reosarevok
        *email card
      • 2012-05-13 13443, 2012

      • ocharles
        email cards are about the peak of tacky
      • 2012-05-13 13456, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Mother's day cards are about the peak of tacky :p
      • 2012-05-13 13401, 2012

      • nikki
        this was some online thing where they print and send it
      • 2012-05-13 13402, 2012

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      • ocharles
        abotu, but not quite there :)
      • 2012-05-13 13405, 2012

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      • 2012-05-13 13409, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Well, mother's day as a concept is
      • 2012-05-13 13419, 2012

      • nikki
        which seems like the optimum balance between me not wanting to spend any time on it and my mum wanting to receive a card :P
      • 2012-05-13 13438, 2012

      • nikki
        she even recommended it, so she can't complain
      • 2012-05-13 13449, 2012

      • ocharles
        heh
      • 2012-05-13 13452, 2012

      • nikki
        before I always used the excuse that buying cards in germany would be too hard
      • 2012-05-13 13457, 2012

      • nikki
        but she was determined :P
      • 2012-05-13 13402, 2012

      • ocharles
        nikki: how far are you with your course?
      • 2012-05-13 13428, 2012

      • nikki
        I'm somewhere in book B, but I haven't checked for a while
      • 2012-05-13 13437, 2012

      • nikki
        it's all reeeeally easy, which is good 'cause I need to pass :P
      • 2012-05-13 13439, 2012

      • ocharles
        heh
      • 2012-05-13 13458, 2012

      • ocharles
        the little calendar thing says i should be on c1 this week and next week, so i'm about to finally be back on top of things
      • 2012-05-13 13400, 2012

      • nikki
        the tmas are hard though. explaining what I'm doing? nooo
      • 2012-05-13 13419, 2012

      • nikki
        and I keep making stupid rounding mistakes in the icmas
      • 2012-05-13 13428, 2012

      • ocharles
        i haven't had a cma yet
      • 2012-05-13 13443, 2012

      • ocharles
        there's on due aug 29th
      • 2012-05-13 13401, 2012

      • nikki
        I'm supposed to be on unit 6, and tma 2 was up to unit 5, so I guess I'm not far behind
      • 2012-05-13 13406, 2012

      • nikki
        oh, weird.
      • 2012-05-13 13420, 2012

      • nikki
        there's 5 icmas and 5 tmas for me