warp: looks like you were the last one to edit the annotation for http://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/e62d6ccd-25cc…, which describes the cover art -- do you have the cover art itself? (I'd like to remove the Jamendo cover art link if possible, especially since that's not a Digital Media release)
2012-07-01 18326, 2012
ianmcorvidae
warp: er, looks like you did, actually -- what should be done about the front cover, though?
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warp
ianmcorvidae: I still need to scan the art from the physical release
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ocharles
warp: you guys could have used fabric to script those time problesm :)
reosarevok: I know what those BWV numbers are and such, what does the entity in MB do?
2012-07-01 18339, 2012
reosarevok
Links all the works in a specific catalog, whether they're by the same composer or not and without requiring us to have all the different catalog listings on the work titles
2012-07-01 18359, 2012
reosarevok
(also moves the "was catalogued by" relationship from the artist to the catalog I guess)
2012-07-01 18323, 2012
reosarevok
Putting stuff on the title half-works for people with one main catalog but it gets silly very soon
2012-07-01 18339, 2012
reosarevok
(Scarlatti has 3 different ones for example)
2012-07-01 18326, 2012
reosarevok
Basically, it's pretty much like series in that it's just an ordered list
2012-07-01 18341, 2012
reosarevok
(well, I guess series is sometimes unordered?)
2012-07-01 18348, 2012
reosarevok
Anyway, plenty of time until Oct so I can start by discussing Series I guess? :)
2012-07-01 18354, 2012
ocharles
go ahead :)
2012-07-01 18338, 2012
warp
reosarevok: plenty? :)
2012-07-01 18304, 2012
reosarevok
warp: compared with last schema change and "adopt tickets NOW it's LATE", yes :p
2012-07-01 18350, 2012
warp
if you want to get Series and/or Catalog implemented by then, .. well I don't think there is all that much time, so don't take too long in discusssing it :D
2012-07-01 18316, 2012
warp
reosarevok: I wonder how podcasts can fit into Series.
2012-07-01 18338, 2012
reosarevok
Well, "series" in my current concept is pretty much "ordered list of things", really
2012-07-01 18336, 2012
warp
I wish standalone recordings had a release date. then we could allow them in Series and that'd be more or less what you'd want from a podcast.
2012-07-01 18342, 2012
warp
s/from/for/
2012-07-01 18355, 2012
reosarevok
(mainly because I want them to also be able to fit recordings, for video series like http://vimeo.com/album/1656956 - dunno if that will fly with the community though)
2012-07-01 18342, 2012
reosarevok
warp: there are some problems with using release date only anyway
2012-07-01 18354, 2012
warp
reosarevok: hm?
2012-07-01 18304, 2012
reosarevok seems to remember discussion about ordered series running in a different order than they were actually released
2012-07-01 18314, 2012
reosarevok
(say, #3 got delayed and put out after #4)
2012-07-01 18354, 2012
warp
oh certainly, I just mean that that's an important bit of information I would want to have on podcast episodes. which means that currently each podcast episode should be a release itself, which is too much hassle.
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reosarevok
Oh, sure
2012-07-01 18305, 2012
reosarevok
I see what you mean there
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reosarevok
Although dates for podcasts can be in the titles or disambiguation comments, really
2012-07-01 18328, 2012
reosarevok
Like with live bootlegs and recordings
2012-07-01 18331, 2012
reosarevok
(for now at least)
2012-07-01 18346, 2012
warp
I think it would make sense to allow a release date on a standalone recording.
2012-07-01 18356, 2012
warp
though I guess that would be a seperate proposal :)
2012-07-01 18329, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah
2012-07-01 18333, 2012
reosarevok
(to both)
2012-07-01 18344, 2012
warp
reosarevok: would ocremix stuff be considered a series?
2012-07-01 18316, 2012
reosarevok
That's for the community to say, really - I have little experience with it so I don't know
2012-07-01 18320, 2012
warp
(i guess technically all those recordings are individual releases, as they have a release date and a catalog number)
2012-07-01 18317, 2012
warp
reosarevok: ocremix is often a nice edge case :)
2012-07-01 18343, 2012
reosarevok
Sure, but in this case it seems like an edge case for series *style* more than the thing itself I'd say?
2012-07-01 18325, 2012
warp
I guess you could see ocremix as a record label. it catalogs and publishes releases on behalf of the artists signed up to it.
2012-07-01 18334, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah, I was thinking that too
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warp
the only problem is that each release is a single recording.
2012-07-01 18347, 2012
reosarevok
Not anymore, really
2012-07-01 18355, 2012
reosarevok
They have been issuing "albums" for a while too
2012-07-01 18306, 2012
warp
which is very cumbersome to edit, but not otherwise a problem with representing it accurately.
2012-07-01 18343, 2012
warp
oh, yes. but still they release lots of standalone recordings
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reosarevok
I would argue if releases represent them correctly and the only problem is that they're a pain to edit, we just should fix that and not try to make them into something else :)
2012-07-01 18353, 2012
reosarevok
"just", I know
2012-07-01 18324, 2012
warp
yeah, you're righte.
2012-07-01 18331, 2012
warp
s/e.$/./
2012-07-01 18305, 2012
reosarevok
Man, doing stuff without a down arrow is annoying
2012-07-01 18308, 2012
reosarevok
I guess they would have to work a bit like a tracklist
2012-07-01 18333, 2012
reosarevok
In that they're related to recordings in a way that is not an AR
2012-07-01 18322, 2012
reosarevok
warp: when you have time, could you look at the mail in style and see if that seems doable and if it you think it'd work? (as a potential developer and user of the feature)
2012-07-01 18325, 2012
reosarevok
:)
2012-07-01 18343, 2012
warp
sure, I will have a look later today.
2012-07-01 18351, 2012
warp
(I definitely want series)
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reosarevok
ocharles: "i don't have any time for musicbrainz work today unless servers are exploding"
2012-07-01 18344, 2012
reosarevok
well, we're mass 502-ing now
2012-07-01 18350, 2012
reosarevok
Does that count?
2012-07-01 18341, 2012
warp
ugh
2012-07-01 18316, 2012
reosarevok
Seems it works again
2012-07-01 18327, 2012
reosarevok
But it'd be good if someone could look into what happened
2012-07-01 18357, 2012
reosarevok
Hmm, or maybe I just hit the right server
2012-07-01 18359, 2012
reosarevok
another 502
2012-07-01 18345, 2012
warp
I saw the 502s as well, but I don't see anything obviously wrong.
2012-07-01 18304, 2012
warp
currently the pages load again without me touching anything
