I can leave the house with 50 minutes before my international departure and be totally fine.
2012-10-01 27526, 2012
ruaok
"international
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ruaok
"
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ianmcorvidae
heh
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ianmcorvidae
SBP is small enough you don't get much choice of airline though
2012-10-01 27514, 2012
ianmcorvidae
which is what makes the BDL/TUS size better
2012-10-01 27524, 2012
ianmcorvidae
lots of airlines, but you can still show up 45 minutes before your flight and be fine
2012-10-01 27539, 2012
reosarevok
Choice of airline?
2012-10-01 27549, 2012
reosarevok
I thought the US had like 4 big airlines and all of them sucked anyway
2012-10-01 27520, 2012
ruaok
southwest and virgin america dont suck.
2012-10-01 27527, 2012
ruaok
my GF likes alaska.
2012-10-01 27533, 2012
ruaok
the rest? fuck'em.
2012-10-01 27500, 2012
ianmcorvidae
reosarevok: SBP gets two airlines, US and United :P
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ianmcorvidae
virgin america I wish TUS got, but we do get southwest
2012-10-01 27540, 2012
ianmcorvidae
it's nice to have AA and delta as options for when I can't take southwest and want choices beyond the other sucky ones
2012-10-01 27520, 2012
reosarevok
You could also move to Europe ;)
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reosarevok subtly makes your mind want to do it
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reosarevok
Ok, I've never been too good at being subtle
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ianmcorvidae
:P
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ruaok
no patience, reosarevok.
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reosarevok
ruaok: it was for ianmcorvidae
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reosarevok
You're doing it anyway :p
2012-10-01 27551, 2012
ruaok
oh. ok.
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ruaok is on it
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reosarevok
But that means we need ianmcorvidae to move for the full core team to be in EU
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reosarevok
Well, and navap I guess?
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ruaok
ianmcorvidae: I'd fly delta before AA.
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ruaok
AA has fucked me too many times
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ianmcorvidae
I avoid everyone but southwest if I can
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reosarevok
ruaok: Yeah, with all that wanting you to stop drinking
2012-10-01 27553, 2012
reosarevok
Oh, wait, wrong AA
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ruaok
ianmcorvidae: I avoid US based airlines if possible.
2012-10-01 27500, 2012
ruaok
like my trip to BCN.
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ruaok
bought on United.
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ruaok
flown by skywest, swiss and Lufthansa.
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ianmcorvidae
if I can't get them my ordering is probably US Airways on top (because my dad gets lots of frequent flyer miles from them, so, cheap), then the other three
2012-10-01 27522, 2012
ruaok
no single united operated flight. WIN!
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reosarevok
heh
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ianmcorvidae
haha
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nikki
ianmcorvidae: yes, as reosarevok said, move to europe! come to germany! >:D
2012-10-01 27550, 2012
nikki uses this as an opportunity to remind you :P
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ruaok
nikki: the other day someone asked me why I am not moving back to germany...
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reosarevok
Estonia is cheaper ;) Well, *East* Germany might not be much more expensive
2012-10-01 27500, 2012
ruaok
guess what my response was.
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reosarevok
But Bonn is in the wrong half!
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nikki doesn't know
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ruaok
gema
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reosarevok
lol
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nikki
oh, right :P
2012-10-01 27551, 2012
reosarevok
Good point
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ruaok
gez a closed second
2012-10-01 27554, 2012
reosarevok
See, ianmcorvidae? Estonia
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ruaok
-d
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reosarevok
First in the world on internet freedom!
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nikki
I guess gema is the second thing I don't like
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reosarevok
(according to someone I don't know)
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ruaok
nikki: what is first?
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reosarevok
Her smoking neighbors?
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nikki
the bizarre traffic light crossing system
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reosarevok
Oh
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reosarevok
ianmcorvidae: Also snowy and cold! No more desert!
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ruaok
nikki: what's so bizzare about it?
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nikki
I swear I nearly get run over every time I cross the road :/
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reosarevok
(if you don't like cold, forget that bit)
2012-10-01 27520, 2012
nikki
I'm used to the uk, where when there's a green man, there's no moving vehicles
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reosarevok
(still no more desert though)
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nikki
unlike here where green man means there's still moving vehicles
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ruaok
same here to
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ruaok
turn on red is allowed.
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reosarevok
Well, green man = if there are vehicles, they have to stop anyway if someone's crossing, right?
2012-10-01 27553, 2012
nikki
it's like the bad parts of zebra crossings combined with the bad parts of pelican crossings
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ruaok
suppsed to an do are different
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nikki
they often speed up if they think someone's about to cross, to avoid having to wait
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nikki
which scares the shit out of me :P
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reosarevok
heh
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reosarevok
Yeah, they did it sometimes in Spain
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jdamcd
I almost died about a dozen times in San Francisco because I never learned that cars could turn at red lights
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reosarevok
If you actually *do* cross, they either avoid you or stop though
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jdamcd
how does that make any sense?
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reosarevok
If only to avoid fucking up their car / insurance marks
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ruaok
jdamcd: it makes sense from a driver
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ruaok
s perspective.
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ianmcorvidae has gotten very good at glaring at drivers
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ianmcorvidae
it's fun to shame them into stopping
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reosarevok
I guess the problem is designing cities from a driver's perspective :)
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ruaok
jdamcd: then again, how does cars always having right of way of pedestrians in the UK make sense? ;-)
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ianmcorvidae
however, yes, right-turn-on-red is great as a driver and terrible as a pedestrian
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hawke_
jdamcd: how does that not make sense? They’re not crossing traffic, just merging.
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ruaok
ianmcorvidae: glaring is a great tool
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reosarevok
hawke_: pedestrian traffic is traffic!
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ianmcorvidae
hawke_: pedestrians
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reosarevok
(the most important bit of it)
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hawke_
reosarevok, ianmcorvidae: We’re talking about the US here.
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ianmcorvidae guesses hawke doesn't go out walking much
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ianmcorvidae
hawke_: yes, I also live here
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ianmcorvidae
and fuck drivers
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hawke_
I do, actually — bicycling more than walking
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reosarevok
Again, it comes down to "designing your cities for cars is stupid"
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hawke_
I just don’t walk in front of someone who’s turning right.
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hawke_
reosarevok: Well, yeah.
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ianmcorvidae
if you're hurtling yourself faster than any unassisted human can in an air-conditioned metal box you can fucking stop when I'm out walking
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ianmcorvidae
and I think the law should support that viewpoint as well
2012-10-01 27547, 2012
ruaok owns six bikes and is sad to have to divest 4 of them
ruaok: oh, the thing that bothers me the most about the crossings is when the moving traffic is coming from behind (which is the case for one of the crossings near here). I don't have eyes in the back of my head, so it all looks clear and then there's suddenly a car coming towards me D:
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ruaok
fuss. another reason to not use crossings. :)
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nikki
I'm getting better at avoiding the ones I don't like
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reosarevok
From behind?
2012-10-01 27525, 2012
reosarevok
Oh, includes a turn I guess?
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nikki
yes
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reosarevok
Yeah, not a lot of those here thankfully
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reosarevok
but those are annoying
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ruaok
now that I am thinking of it, I'm not wholly sure what type of intersection you mean, nikki
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ruaok
google maps?
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reosarevok
ruaok: well, if they can freely turn right, any car can take a turn from behind you and appear by you a couple metres away
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reosarevok
(since the crossings tend to be very close to the corners)