ianmcorvidae: apparently you should support autoconfiguration, you suck :P
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warp: anyway, that's not the issue :P the issue is that it rejects my manual configuration despite it actually being correct
warp
it's the maintainer of the @domain.tld part who needs to implement the autoconfiguration.
Freso
warp: Which'd be ianmcorvidae :)
warp
nikki: yes, but why does it reject that? it could very well be an error by the ISP.
nikki
warp: I don't know. it makes no sense to me
warp
ocharles: any idea what's up with IO::All::Temp?
I get "Can't locate IO/All/Temp.pm in @INC" when running "carton exec -- script/compile_resources.pl", but carton says "You have IO::All::Temp (undef)"
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ocharles
yea, see the configuration on jenkins
for some reason you have to set an environment variable (CARTON_HOME iirc) to get that to work
warp
ah, fun.
Freso
ocharles: MBS-5205 - if you *prepend* something to a title, the first word is still marked as changed in the diff.
ianmcorvidae: when you're around, can you explain what the purpose of the no-op i18n functions are?
Freso
warp: No-op i18n functions?
warp
N_l, N_ln, N_lp
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Freso
warp: If they're what it sounds like to me, the purpose is likely to feed the gettext parser with strings that are being "dynamically" generated and thus wouldn't otherwise be pulled in.
warp: Unless those $AUTOEDITOR ... variables are being called later as _($...). But I don't know. :) I'm curious too, now.
(Of course, not literally _ - but whatever function is made to wrap around that.)
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ocharles
warp: it means you can mark a string as translatable once, and then use a variable later (which contains that string)
ie. we might edit.status_name, which is dynamic and depends on the status in the database. We could either have a switch there and call out many l() calls, or we just N_l somewhere earlier to 'mark' a translation
warp
ocharles: clear as mud :)
Freso
ocharles: So... basically the same I was trying to say in a more abstract way.
ocharles
Freso: me, explaining things in an abstract way?
:)
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Freso
ocharles: Yeah, unlike me who tend to over-abstract my explanations. We'd make a good explanation team. :p
murdos
ocharles: +1 for the general markettingy stuff ;)
ocharles
i think gnome and stuff have advocay mailing lists, which might be a start
murdos
but gnome has a very different community and functioning
ocharles
yea
murdos
it's not benevol dictator centred, and has its foundation has active contributors on board
ocharles
i imagine there are bits we can take that will immediately work for us, and maybe more to consider
warp
warp has changed the topic to: chilly week | http://musicbrainz.org/#devel | Meeting: reviews, final GitHub steps (ocharles), (c) picard plugins (warp)
why Freso? it allows scriptish and GM to auto-update scripts
Freso
_5moufl: Exactly. =)
warp: Isn't Picard GPL?
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warp
Freso: yes. picard itself is licensed under GPLv2 or later.
Freso
warp: If so, any plugins made against Picard which wouldn't wihtout Picard, are thus also GPL.
warp
Freso: no, not automatically.
Freso
warp: Depends on how you read the GPL. :)
warp: There's no clear cut way to say whether or not it is so, so ultimately, it's up to a court to decide if it should come to that.
warp
Freso: if we assume those plugins to be derivative works of picard, they SHOULD be licensed under a GPL compatible license, yes.
Freso: but if someone doesn't do that, they're simply violating the copyright license of picard. violating that license doesn't automatically license a work under GPL.
Only the author of picard plugin can determine the license for that plugin, it doesn't automatically get the GPL license just because it is derivative of picard.
"If the program dynamically links plug-ins, but the communication between them is limited to invoking the ‘main’ function of the plug-in with some options and waiting for it to return, that is a borderline case." is probably what is happening here.
warp
sure
but in the end a copyright license is just a set of permissions the copyright holder grants, and only the copyright holder can grant those.
so if I write and publish a picard plugin, only I can determine what those permissions are. only I get to determine the copyright license.
Freso
warp: True, but the copyright holders to Picard has licensed Picard under the terms of GPLv2+; these terms include that plugins/modules be available under the same terms (per those two FAQ entries).
warp
Freso: yes. So if I write and publish a picard plugin, but don't give you those permissions. then I am violating the picard license, and nothing more.
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Freso
IANAL, and I'm guessing you're not either. :)
warp
the picard copyright holders can sue me for violating their copyright.
I am not a lawyer, no. But I do know how copyright works.
Freso
Sure.
warp
uk: the vast majority of what is in CAA is not of unknown copyright status.
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uk: anything published since 1964 is still under copyright until at least 2019 (in the USA).
often the copyright holder is unknown, but not the copyright status.
uk
OK, then that's a terminology problem.
(Note, however, that the example includes material from pre-1964. :) )
Otherwise, it's clear that at least in the rest of the world, anything is copyrighted for at least 70 years.
warp
pre 1964 is more difficult. because it required registration to get copyright protection. pre 1928 USA is public domain now.
A lot of places still have death of author + 50 years.
Freso: sure, so the copyright status is known but the copyright holder isn't.
I guess the minimum allowed by berne is death of author + 25 years.
uk
Only for photographs, creation (not death-of-photographer) plus 25. Otherwise d-o-a plus 50.
Freso
Hm. Speaking of photographs... should we allow ARs to be linked directly to cover art?
This would allow us to be much more specific for ARs such as "wrote liner notes" and "provided photography".
warp
uk: according to wikipedia there are a few exceptions. wikipedia could be wrong ofcourse.
