#musicbrainz-devel

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      • warp
        it's a foreign key relationship, so I think it might crash because of the FK constraint.
      • nikki
        ah
      • alastairp
        reosarevok: yeah, none of the students working on compmusic are Spanish, but there's others in the wider MTG dept
      • reosarevok
        And none of those are coming?
      • alastairp
        no, though I'm not sure they know about it, tbh
      • reosarevok
        Print a couple posters! :p
      • "Curious about MusicBrainz? Come to our yearly summit blah blah blah!"
      • nikki
        warp: oh, and http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-5035 and http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-5126 (not sure what the difference is supposed to be) seems to be really annoying people and causing a bunch of cleanup work
      • alastairp
        reosarevok: yeah, I could - but is it really useful to interested users?
      • I thought it was mostly developer powow?
      • reosarevok
        Well, it's a music technology group after all
      • Aren't people into digital music stuff?
      • warp
        it's mostly useful for anyknow who knows musicbrainz. if you're not familiar with musicbrainz it will considerably less useful.
      • still, if you're into any kind of music metadata / ontology / etc... you should be familiar with musicbrainz! :)
      • alastairp
        right
      • warp
        alastairp: certainly not just developers
      • alastairp
        e.g., first item on the agenda is "Moving MB to cloud hosting". Not really ontology related :)
      • warp
        alastairp: that agenda doesn't look final :)
      • nikki
        alastairp: we apparently have a few rooms, so we can split up
      • so just because some people are being big geeks in one room... :P
      • warp
        alastairp: how should we model series and box sets? genres?
      • reosarevok
        alastairp: since I myself don't care about some of those points, I'd be happy to help other peoples with more user-related concerns in room 2 :p
      • Guess others would too
      • Dunno
      • warp
        alastairp: "our stuff is hard for beginners"
      • reosarevok runs to a violin concert, back later
      • alastairp
        right, sounds reasonable
      • warp
        etc.
      • alastairp: more than enough non-developer topics on the agenda
      • CatCat
        this jenkins guy sure is very spammy with his links :)
      • ocharles> 3 months => high priority, 12 months => normal priority, unscheduled => low priority
      • don't do that
      • nikki
        that's usually good news, it means stuff's being developed :P
      • CatCat likes it the way it is
      • what's the point of having it the way it is if the way it is doesn't work?
      • CatCat
        i think that, something might be high priority ,but can do to still wait a 12 months
      • nikki
        that doesn't really make sense to me
      • CatCat
        (for example)
      • nikki
        if it can wait, it's not high priority
      • CatCat
        an addiotn of a red "zomg urgent" button though, might be ok :P
      • (only awaialbe for bug type tickets)
      • nikki
        we have five priority levels anyway
      • alastairp
        Freso: got it
      • Freso
        \o/
      • nikki
        I don't really mind the exact way the devs want it to work, as long as the people who need to know how it works know how it works and tickets that should be fixed quickly are seen and fixed quickly regardless of who enters it and other tickets are processed in some way that means they get resolved in some way in a reasonable amount of time
      • Freso
        +1
      • CatCat
        yes, fair point
      • nikki
        and ideally we should disable any parts of jira that we're not using and that are disableable, to make it as easy to get right as possible (for example when I was putting "beta" in the summary, the affects version and the fix version because I wasn't sure which was the right place)
      • CatCat
        i forget that people see things differently than me :P
      • what i mean is "*I* thing tis high priority, but i understand that in the grand scheme of things ,this isn't important to mb as a whole"
      • nikki
        that's what the scheduling stuff is for
      • CatCat
        indeed, os for those i chose 12 months
      • because i WANT it fixed within the year even though i'd LOVE to have it fixed within 3 months
      • nikki
        the one thing I do like about how it works now is that features get an actual date, so we can tell if things are getting repeatedly put off. I'm not sure if the suggestion is to remove dates entirely or just to remove the buckets but keep the due dates
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      • ianmcorvidae: wasn't http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-5475 a wontfix?
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      • MBJenkins
        ollie: Replace the 'Ref a' data family with a 'Ref' GADT
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      • ollie: Pass full Tree values around, rather than just inner data
      • Freso
        So... what's up with searching on beta now?
      • Last night the index was just outdated, now it's pretty much useless.
      • E.g, searching for "Per Vers" - I have to use direct search to actually find him.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        huh, figured out why my musicbrainz vm stopped working and fixed it
      • now, of course, it's something like 3 month out of date...
      • warp
        nikki: btw. now that I've finally moved beta html5, we should now be able to do the <bdi> stuff you did ages ago.
      • kepstin-laptop
        guess it's time to do a server update and db re-import, then :)
      • warp
        MBS-4568
      • mb-chat-logger
      • marcooliveira
        hi guys
      • completely out of context question
      • has anyone here worked with MusicMetric?
      • warp
        marcooliveira: I am not familiar with them.
      • nikki hasn't heard of it
      • marcooliveira
        hmm
      • ok, then! thanks anyway ;)
      • warp
        marcooliveira: if any one of us has had dealings with them it would be ruaoku
      • nikki
        he's turned japanese? :P
      • warp
        marcooliveira: so you should ask ruaok when he's around (he's currently traveling, so only visits irc for brief moments while waiting on aircraft :)
      • marcooliveira
        ok ok
      • I'll try to
      • btw, is the barcelona meeting still up? (haven't been following, since I'm not available)
      • warp
        marcooliveira: yes, this weekend!
      • marcooliveira
        great
      • warp
      • join us!
      • marcooliveira
        hope I get a chance to go to the next meeting --'
      • really can't :S
      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm. what git url should I be pulling the server off? git.musicbrainz.org or github?
      • Freso
        marcooliveira: I'm lobbying for next year's to be in Copenhagen!
      • warp
        kepstin-laptop: I'm still using git.musicbrainz.org, but we'll be switching soon. so you might aswell start using github now.
      • Freso pulls from both
      • marcooliveira
        Freso, haha.. Never been there.. Could be interesting :)
      • Freso
        marcooliveira: :)
      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm, github's probably faster, too :)
      • MBJenkins
        Project musicbrainz-server_beta build #220: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-serve...
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      • warp
        boom
      • CatCat
        Freso> E.g, searching for "Per Vers" - I have to use direct search to actually find him.
      • XD "Per Vers"
      • <nikki> he's turned japanese? :P
      • XD that was my thought too
      • Freso
        Also.
      • Returns a lot of things, but not Christmas Time by Backstreet Boys.
      • Freso is still waiting for answer about this though :p
      • ianmcorvidae perhaps?
      • CatCat was more sort of lol "per vers"
      • hawke_1
        I would say ianmcorvidae or ijabz
      • Freso
        I know.
      • Oh ijabz is around too.
      • CatCat
        but i can see how that could be a nnoying
      • maybe its a constraint to filter out rude words
      • Freso
        CatCat: No. It works on the main site.
      • CatCat: The index is messed up on beta.
      • CatCat knows that for example spell check doesn't find a word for "fcuk" unless you explicitly tell it
      • CatCat
        with is thing is ridiculous,
      • oh
      • ok
      • Freso
        CatCat: Also, neither "Per" nor "Vers" are rude.
      • Or Christmas, Time, Backstreet, or Boys.
      • CatCat
        clearly you don't know how insane some of these "censorship" thumpers are :P
      • of course both backstreet and boys are rude!!! :Ø
      • i also believe there is a photon sketch...
      • Freso
      • CatCat
        python wtf not photon?
      • Freso
        ijabz ianmcorvidae ^
      • CatCat
        lol mynty photon
      • warp
        Freso: my bad.
      • Freso
        warp: :)
      • warp
        Freso: indexes were created with "--test", which means it just takes the first X records, instead of properly indexing everything.
      • Freso
        :)
      • warp
        Freso: in general I don't know much about the search servers. I just happen to be the guy running the one for beta :)
      • Freso
        Heh.
      • Good to know.
      • ;)
      • MBJenkins
        Project musicbrainz-server_beta build #221: FIXED in 51 min: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-serve...
      • CatCat
        you're very enthusiastic jenkins, i'll give you that.
      • Freso
        warp: Did you fix the beta search server thing so it'll fix itself eventually?
      • warp
        Freso: it is still indexing
      • Freso
        warp: "so it'll fix itself eventually" - great! :D
      • warp
        Freso: when the indexing is done I need to enable the updaters. after that it should stay up-to-date on its own until we break something again.
      • Freso
        Ah. Okay.
      • warp
        (also, yay. build fixed :)
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      • Freso
        Heh. :)