ocharles: this is the release with the DBDefs defaults stuff changes though, right?
2012-11-13 31819, 2012
ocharles
oh, yes
2012-11-13 31834, 2012
warp
ocharles: DBDefs.pm seems very big, so it hasn't been updated with that in mind?
2012-11-13 31841, 2012
ocharles
no, I haven't done anything on hobbes at all
2012-11-13 31825, 2012
warp
right, so that should be done first. can ianmcorvidae do that? :)
2012-11-13 31825, 2012
ocharles
i'm just trying to catch up on email stuff right now
2012-11-13 31829, 2012
ocharles
i can have a look at that shortly
2012-11-13 31834, 2012
ocharles
he might be able to
2012-11-13 31849, 2012
warp
it's his patch >:)
2012-11-13 31839, 2012
warp
though I guess it's just emptying the file except for those settings which deviate from defaults.
2012-11-13 31804, 2012
ocharles
yep, pretty much
2012-11-13 31847, 2012
warp
my e-mail provider has a power outage, which is a tad annoying as I've just re-installed windows 8 on my laptop and am thus re-installing a bunch of stuff.
2012-11-13 31815, 2012
warp
(so currently no access to activation codes or password resets, etc...)
2012-11-13 31814, 2012
CloudCatCat
ocharles: also anorwegian list from last.fm :D
2012-11-13 31820, 2012
Freso
warp: You never use e-mail anyway, so I guess I fail to see what problem you're having... ;)
2012-11-13 31802, 2012
Freso didn't read the 2nd message
2012-11-13 31823, 2012
Freso
Where's Rob to tell me to read more, ask less?
2012-11-13 31846, 2012
CloudCatCat
hmm, what is a link to that images fro mthe summit
2012-11-13 31852, 2012
ianmcorvidae
warp, ocharles: the improvements to DBDefs aren't required except for two
2012-11-13 31813, 2012
ianmcorvidae
warp, ocharles: AWS_ASSOCIATE_ID (I think?) and CAA_UPLOAD_PREFIXER
2012-11-13 31827, 2012
ianmcorvidae
in both cases you can just comment out the one you've configured, there's no reason you'd change those
2012-11-13 31838, 2012
ocharles
ianmcorvidae: for ci?
2012-11-13 31855, 2012
ianmcorvidae
for in general, you'll get 500s on release pages with the AWS one
2012-11-13 31807, 2012
ianmcorvidae
and fail to ever upload coverart with the caa one
2012-11-13 31820, 2012
ianmcorvidae
both of those are the functions in DBDefs that actually care about their arguments, that's the issue
2012-11-13 31828, 2012
ianmcorvidae
make sure to add 'use DBDefs::Default' to the top as well of course
2012-11-13 31832, 2012
ocharles
yea, I have all that
2012-11-13 31839, 2012
ocharles
but why can't I just use the defaults for those functions?
2012-11-13 31843, 2012
ianmcorvidae
you can
2012-11-13 31845, 2012
ianmcorvidae
you should, in fact
2012-11-13 31847, 2012
ocharles
ok, cool
2012-11-13 31850, 2012
ianmcorvidae
that's what this does, commenting them out
2012-11-13 31801, 2012
ocharles
literally all ci/beta has is the database settings
2012-11-13 31803, 2012
ocharles
we'll see what happens
2012-11-13 31821, 2012
ianmcorvidae
probably needs a schema sequence too, those should be the only needed configurations
2012-11-13 31828, 2012
ianmcorvidae
though we may not use the schema sequence outside of replication
2012-11-13 31831, 2012
ianmcorvidae
so maybe that doesn't matter
2012-11-13 31835, 2012
ocharles
oh, we didn't put a default on that, did we?
2012-11-13 31842, 2012
ianmcorvidae
nope, no default for schema sequence
2012-11-13 31845, 2012
ocharles
k
2012-11-13 31849, 2012
ianmcorvidae
because we want people to have to interfere manually
2012-11-13 31852, 2012
ocharles
ea
2012-11-13 31853, 2012
ocharles
yea
2012-11-13 31800, 2012
warp
Freso :)
2012-11-13 31802, 2012
Freso
ocharles: I'm not sure if you should perhaps use "Indian art music" instead of "Indian classical music". Most people I know and things I've read about the field seem to use "art music" over "classical music" (though the meaning is generally the same, I guess).
2012-11-13 31816, 2012
Freso picking nits
2012-11-13 31829, 2012
ianmcorvidae
pretty esoteric, yeah
2012-11-13 31856, 2012
ianmcorvidae
distinction that only matters to people who really care about that particular type of music, which is... minimal in the MB community, to say the least :P
2012-11-13 31828, 2012
nikki
otherwise people would have demanded ragas and talas already :P
2012-11-13 31831, 2012
ocharles
Freso: wikipedia says Indian classical music, so I just copied that
2012-11-13 31808, 2012
Freso
ocharles: Alright.
2012-11-13 31800, 2012
alastairp
either is fine
2012-11-13 31856, 2012
Freso
alastairp: :)
2012-11-13 31842, 2012
CloudCatCat
actualy calling all "music written by deadguys before 1800" "classic music " is a bit like calling all "music written by deadguys after 1800" "pop music". and being a music cycolpediariumeria whatever we shouldprobably di it right. however "art music " is WAY pretencious
2012-11-13 31859, 2012
CloudCatCat susspect using the actual names would be better
2012-11-13 31808, 2012
CloudCatCat
eg "classical" "gregrian" etc
2012-11-13 31830, 2012
CloudCatCat
wht do we know, perhaps separation thme woud be better for styleguides and management of thme too
2012-11-13 31850, 2012
Freso
Indian classical/art music is written from now until way before 1800.
2012-11-13 31801, 2012
CloudCatCat
that was kind of my point :)
2012-11-13 31827, 2012
CloudCatCat
it's hard to define these withouth doing "classic music" as a genre
2012-11-13 31843, 2012
CloudCatCat
because people *still* do write sympohoneis, ragas or whatever
2012-11-13 31859, 2012
CloudCatCat thinks its about time the database got less european-centric wrt "classical" music and worknames
2012-11-13 31807, 2012
CloudCatCat
it's beautiful
2012-11-13 31832, 2012
ianmcorvidae
not like it's that good for western classical/art music either, of course, but agreed :P
2012-11-13 31825, 2012
CloudCatCat
yea
2012-11-13 31851, 2012
nikki
ianmcorvidae: oh, did you see jesus complaining about not being able to write/edit forum posts?
