warp: re 'only' 30 minutes - that build on master didn't have html5 tests enabled
2012-11-14 31927, 2012
ocharles
i just want to get a release out
2012-11-14 31951, 2012
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warp
ocharles: ah, ok
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ocharles
warp: also, just to fill you in on the relationship stuff (and give myself a paper trail :P) - you have to relate between trees because: if there is a relationship AB between A and B, then presumably A should link to the latest version of B (the latest name etc) and vica versa
2012-11-14 31948, 2012
ocharles
but if you change A -> A', then you would also need to change the relationship AB to A'B, which would have to be done by changing B too.
2012-11-14 31910, 2012
ocharles
So basically, for every entity with relationships, any edit now also changes all the end points (if you link between trees)
2012-11-14 31953, 2012
ocharles
if however you have 2 relationships, A|B| and |A|B (where |x| means just the MBID of |x|) then you don't have these problems
2012-11-14 31929, 2012
warp
and |A||B| ? :)
2012-11-14 31936, 2012
Freso tearing out his hair over his MacBook D:
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warp
ianmcorvidae, ocharles: I've patched edit 19433467, so modbot should be happy again for a little bit.
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ocharles
warp: |A||B| doesn't have the information to say who owns the relationship
2012-11-14 31915, 2012
ocharles
(there would be no way to delete the relationship in a specific version)
2012-11-14 31918, 2012
warp
ocharles: yes, that would be the point of doing it that way. so the relationship is versioned seperately from the artists it relates.
2012-11-14 31957, 2012
warp
ocharles: I can think of various reasons why that wouldn't work very well, but I'm curious if you gave it any thought.
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Freso is considering taking out the harddisk from the MacBook so he can mount it on his desktop machine to fiddle with...
2012-11-14 31924, 2012
ijabz
Can take my labtop to Spain and back no problem, then next day starts fucking up
2012-11-14 31934, 2012
ijabz
you having problems as well freso
2012-11-14 31921, 2012
Freso
ijabz: I've had problems since Thursday :)
2012-11-14 31913, 2012
ijabz
On mine neither trackpad nor mouse work properly, using a mac without a keyboard is really difficult
2012-11-14 31928, 2012
ijabz
whats your issue ?
2012-11-14 31948, 2012
ijabz
Of course i meant using with only a keyboard
2012-11-14 31955, 2012
Freso
I think the issue is that my partition numbers have gotten rearranged.
2012-11-14 31924, 2012
Freso
So it can't find /dev/sda5, which is the Linux install's root partition.
2012-11-14 31945, 2012
Freso
Plus, it can't boot from USB and apparently refuses to boot from CD/DVD too.
2012-11-14 31954, 2012
Freso
Which makes it hard to get stuff fixed. :)
2012-11-14 31906, 2012
luks
don't all linux distros use uuids for mounts now?
2012-11-14 31927, 2012
Freso
And it seems to lose connection with keyboard between boot loader and system startup.
2012-11-14 31932, 2012
Freso
luks: They can.
2012-11-14 31903, 2012
Freso usually uses labels, but apparently didn't when he made this install 2-3 years ago.
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ocharles
morning
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warp
ocharles: arrived at the office?
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ocharles
freso: aha! so my hypothesis was correct
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ocharles
warp: yea
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Freso
ocharles: I've no idea. I still haven't been able to access the file system to try and fiddle with the identifiers.
2012-11-14 31940, 2012
ocharles
warp: oh, yes, relationships have been considered for separate versioning. I don't think it would (or could) work very well
2012-11-14 31903, 2012
Freso
ocharles: I'm currently downloading a FUSE and ext2/3 driver (which will hopefully allow mounting ext4 too, as the ext4 driver for Mac/FUSE apparently isn't working too well).
2012-11-14 31928, 2012
Freso
ocharles: If that won't work, I'll do as ianmcorvidae suggested and install virtalbox and try via that.
2012-11-14 31938, 2012
warp
ocharles: ok, good :)
2012-11-14 31952, 2012
ocharles
isn't that what I suggested on friday? :)
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ocharles
warp: we should release, anyway
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reosarevok
ocharles, the British Cassandra :p
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reosarevok
?
2012-11-14 31940, 2012
warp
ocharles: yes.
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ocharles
reosarevok: yes, I won't be able to do that
2012-11-14 31955, 2012
reosarevok
:(
2012-11-14 31902, 2012
reosarevok
Is there anyone in last.fm we could ask for it?
2012-11-14 31954, 2012
warp
ocharles: alright, I'm on lenny, ready for releasing.
2012-11-14 31937, 2012
ocharles
reosarevok: I don't know, need to release now
2012-11-14 31943, 2012
reosarevok
sure
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ocharles
warp: k, go ahead
2012-11-14 31918, 2012
warp
I took astro out.
2012-11-14 31904, 2012
Freso
ocharles: Heh. It might've been you. :)
2012-11-14 31956, 2012
ocharles
warp astro done
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warp
ocharles: astro back, pingu out.
2012-11-14 31935, 2012
ocharles
hmm, we'll need to sort the new DBDefs out at some point too..
2012-11-14 31943, 2012
warp
ah, right.
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warp
you don't want to do that now?
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ocharles
i didn't on astro
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ocharles
lets just do the update, and then I'll look into it
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warp
ok, np
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ocharles
pingu done
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ianmcorvidae
well, it should probably be now, otherwise we'll get to restart all those servers
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warp
ianmcorvidae: which is fine.
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ianmcorvidae
any release page with an ASIN linked crashes without fixing DBDefs
2012-11-14 31937, 2012
ocharles
that's less fine
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warp
oh? that's not good :)
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ianmcorvidae
yes, because the relevant function takes an argument, and we're changing DBDefs::BLAH to DBDefs->BLAH, and understandably it can't do much with HASH(0xWHATEVER)
2012-11-14 31939, 2012
ocharles
well, i'll go in and try and fix the DBDefs now
2012-11-14 31953, 2012
ianmcorvidae
just sticking a 'shift' at the start of the two relevant functions fixes it, or adding 'use DBDefs::Default;' and commenting out the two
2012-11-14 31957, 2012
warp
ocharles: still on pingu, right?
2012-11-14 31918, 2012
ocharles
pingu is 'done', but I guess I should fix the DBDefs first
2012-11-14 31942, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(AWS_ASSOCIATE_ID and COVER_ART_ARCHIVE_UPLOAD_PREFIXER are the two)
2012-11-14 31957, 2012
warp
ocharles: I'm going to wait with bringing anything up/down until you say so :)
2012-11-14 31909, 2012
ocharles
meh, I can't edit that file via tramp
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ocharles
warp: done with astro
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ocharles
pingu
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warp
cool
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warp
ocharles: pingu back, and I've taken astro out again.
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ocharles
warp: astro restarted
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warp
ok, asterix is out
2012-11-14 31940, 2012
ocharles
warp: ok, all done there too
2012-11-14 31924, 2012
warp
great, all back.
2012-11-14 31941, 2012
warp
things are looking good just clicking around a bit.
2012-11-14 31925, 2012
warp
ocharles: ok, I'm going to run off to babysit the neighbours' kids for 15 minutes or so. if something did break, call/text me. I should be back soonish.
2012-11-14 31931, 2012
ocharles
ocharles has changed the topic to: tropical week! | http://musicbrainz.org/#devel | Meeting: reviews, test/build times (ocharles)
for anyone in London, if you'd like to join this tech talk (free drinks too!) tomorrow evening, the RSVP email it on the FB page.
2012-11-14 31917, 2012
warp
ocharles: astro back, pingu out.
2012-11-14 31937, 2012
reosarevok
ruaok: I've retweeted that from MHD etc
2012-11-14 31947, 2012
reosarevok
But I'll try to remember to post it myself in the evening too
2012-11-14 31907, 2012
ruaok
reosarevok: ah, great.
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ianmcorvidae
MTF and MHD tweeted about it this morning, yeah
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ocharles
warp: ok, done
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warp
ocharles: pingu back, asterix out
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adhawkins
I've been meaning to ask this for ages. On my server, when I visit the web page I get a sidebar down the right hand side with loads of (I assume) developer related stuff.
2012-11-14 31956, 2012
adhawkins
I can dismiss it, but is there any way to stop it coming up forever?
2012-11-14 31909, 2012
nikki
something in DBDefs with CATALYST in the name iirc
