#musicbrainz-devel

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      • reosarevok
        Charging stations?

        • 2012-12-04 33942, 2012

      • warp
        reosarevok: yes.

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      • reosarevok
        What's that, a glorified plug?

        • 2012-12-04 33954, 2012

      • alastairp
        well, yeah

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      • nikki
        I imagine something with lots of sockets

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      • alastairp
        but placed specifically for travellers to sit on the seats and use them

        • 2012-12-04 33918, 2012

      • alastairp
        and yeah, 3-5 plugs

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      • warp
        reosarevok: it's a pole with four sockets and some big sign inviting you to charge your stuff there.

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      • warp
        reosarevok: obviously with four sockets they're usually all taken unless you show up at the gate two hours before the plane leaves.

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      • alastairp <-

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      • warp
        :)

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      • alastairp
        I had no idea how long ahead of time you should arrive for EU flights

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      • reosarevok
        heh

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      • reosarevok
        Where are you going anyway?

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      • alastairp
        munich-montreal

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      • reosarevok
        I tend to appear just on time

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      • nikki
        heh. I tend to show up at the airport 2 hours before

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      • reosarevok
        As in, at most reach the airport 1:30 h before, usually more like 1h

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      • warp
        for BCN I think I left my house two hours before the plane was scheduled to take off.

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      • warp
        (though that wasn't entirely intentional)

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      • alastairp
        warp: hmm, right. I left 3, but I also didn't know how long the train took to get there

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      • alastairp
        now I have the schedule down, I should be able to do it tighter

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      • warp
        alastairp: it took me a little over an hour to get to the airport.

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      • warp
        (meh, running tests on the wrong branch)

        • 2012-12-04 33935, 2012

      • alastairp
        hah, someone else has spied me with power

        • 2012-12-04 33941, 2012

      • alastairp
        and he's getting cables out

        • 2012-12-04 33949, 2012

      • reosarevok
        alastairp has the POWER!

        • 2012-12-04 33914, 2012

      • reosarevok
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/VGMdb_Relationship_Ty… and this is why I hate templates

        • 2012-12-04 33951, 2012

      • warp
        fix all the templates!

        • 2012-12-04 33933, 2012

      • reosarevok
        For that I'd need to be able to look at them without crying :)

        • 2012-12-04 33936, 2012

      • nikki would rather nuke them and do it on the server

        • 2012-12-04 33953, 2012

      • warp
        nuke all the templates!

        • 2012-12-04 33924, 2012

      • reosarevok
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Category:Relationship… lol

        • 2012-12-04 33927, 2012

      • reosarevok
        That works well

        • 2012-12-04 33928, 2012

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      • nikki
        I never update those pages because even if I can overcome the "why are you duplicating data? this is a waste of your time!" feeling and the "wtf are classes anyway?" feeling, those templates are horrible

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      • ocharles
        good morning

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      • warp
        good morning!

        • 2012-12-04 33924, 2012

      • reosarevok
        morning good!

        • 2012-12-04 33929, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Anyone willing to look into http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Templ… and try to find out how to make the Attributes header appear only if there are any attributes to display?

        • 2012-12-04 33923, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Really, wiki syntax should be *simpler* than perl, right? how can it be that I understand complex MB code better than I do our templates? (as in, badly, as opposed to not at all)

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      • warp
        reosarevok: I am not willing.

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      • reosarevok
        warp: afraid that'll be the general reaction, yes

        • 2012-12-04 33952, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (an understandable one, too)

        • 2012-12-04 33922, 2012

      • nikki
        warp: can you please do something to stop all these undeliverable emails when I comment on code review?

        • 2012-12-04 33951, 2012

      • nikki
        whether that's changing your email stuff to stop bouncing them, contacting pronik and getting him to fix it or moving code review so we host it ourselves I don't much care.

        • 2012-12-04 33959, 2012

      • nikki
        wtf

        • 2012-12-04 33908, 2012

      • nikki
        does the webservice really not allow me to fetch my own tags?

        • 2012-12-04 33938, 2012

      • nikki
        I'm trying to fetch the entities I tagged with a certain thing, but I can't see any way of doing that

        • 2012-12-04 33914, 2012

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      • ocharles
        I don't think you can do that

        • 2012-12-04 33936, 2012

      • reosarevok
        huh

        • 2012-12-04 33944, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I always thought we were supposed to allow people to do it?

        • 2012-12-04 33954, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (if "that" is fetching their own tags)

        • 2012-12-04 33957, 2012

      • ocharles
        nikki wants to browse entities by her tags, i think

        • 2012-12-04 33959, 2012

      • warp
        I don't think we have a webservice call for that. only the website (http://musicbrainz.org/user/:username/tags )

        • 2012-12-04 33928, 2012

      • MBJenkins
        Project musicbrainz-data build #77: SUCCESS in 2 min 12 sec: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-data/77/

        • 2012-12-04 33929, 2012

      • MBJenkins
        ollie: Add Edit.listVotes; fix Edit.voteOnEdit; test both

        • 2012-12-04 33933, 2012

      • nikki
        at the moment I have a long list in a picard plugin. someone (freso I think) suggested using tags instead

        • 2012-12-04 33910, 2012

      • warp
        nikki: it definitely makes sense to expose /user/:username/tags through the webservice as well)

        • 2012-12-04 33928, 2012

      • ocharles
        yep

        • 2012-12-04 33936, 2012

      • warp
        nikki: can you assign an MBH ticket to me for codereview.musicbrainz.org issues? I'll discuss with ianmcorvidae and ruaok about hosting it ourselves.

        • 2012-12-04 33941, 2012

      • MBJenkins
        ollie: Test Editor.findEditorByName

        • 2012-12-04 33925, 2012

      • nikki
        warp: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBH-294 feel free to edit it to say what you want it to :P

        • 2012-12-04 33930, 2012

      • nikki
        and http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-5642 for fetching things tagged with a given tag

        • 2012-12-04 33942, 2012

      • MBJenkins
        Project musicbrainz-data build #79: SUCCESS in 1 min 26 sec: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-data/79/

        • 2012-12-04 33943, 2012

      • MBJenkins
        ollie: Prefer 'view reference' over 'Ref'

        • 2012-12-04 33938, 2012

      • warp
        nikki: can you forward a bounce message? I'm wondering on what grounds the mail is refused.

        • 2012-12-04 33907, 2012

      • warp
        I thought I had SPF and such configured for frob.nl, which would cause this, but I don't.

        • 2012-12-04 33938, 2012

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      • MBJenkins
        ollie: Creating entities is now an edit

        • 2012-12-04 33910, 2012

      • ocharles
        warp: there you go :)

        • 2012-12-04 33918, 2012

      • luks
        was switching from review board to github ever discussed?

        • 2012-12-04 33921, 2012

      • warp
        yay!

        • 2012-12-04 33931, 2012

      • warp
        luks: discussed, yes

        • 2012-12-04 33932, 2012

      • ocharles
        luks: yea, briefly

        • 2012-12-04 33941, 2012

      • ocharles
        i believe there were problems regarding getting emails sent out properly

        • 2012-12-04 33901, 2012

      • ocharles
        (broadcasting to all reviewers)

        • 2012-12-04 33924, 2012

      • luks
        ah, I remember now. github now allows anybody to subscribe to pull requests, so that's not a problem anymore

        • 2012-12-04 33937, 2012

      • ocharles
        i think people still want that by default though

        • 2012-12-04 33937, 2012

      • luks
        might be a better solution than migrating cr

        • 2012-12-04 33942, 2012

      • warp
        I also think the prevailing attitude was -- one step at a time, make github our main repository and only then start evaluating if reviewing code github would be suitable.

        • 2012-12-04 33912, 2012

      • ocharles
        that too. i hope to finish that migration this month

        • 2012-12-04 33921, 2012

      • nikki wonders if github lets her select which email to send email to yet

        • 2012-12-04 33946, 2012

      • ocharles
        you can have multiple email addresses, but i think you elect one as primary

        • 2012-12-04 33959, 2012

      • nikki
        which is stupid :/

        • 2012-12-04 33912, 2012

      • ocharles
        i don't think it's stupid, it's quite normal

        • 2012-12-04 33938, 2012

      • nikki
        they say on their sign up form that they don't expose your email address, so I was rather pissed off when I clicked on "merge" and it made a commit with that email address

        • 2012-12-04 33919, 2012

      • warp
        nikki: "Set as default" ?

        • 2012-12-04 33930, 2012

      • nikki
        no idea

        • 2012-12-04 33933, 2012

      • nikki
        I can't remember my password

        • 2012-12-04 33935, 2012

      • warp
        you can also select which of your email addresses to use for notifications seperately from which one is marked as default.

        • 2012-12-04 33950, 2012

      • warp
        obviously I don't use any of that, so I don't know if that works as intended.

        • 2012-12-04 33959, 2012

      • ocharles
        http://www.meetup.com/London-HUG/events/93994942/ cool!

        • 2012-12-04 33914, 2012

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      • reosarevok
        Oh

        • 2012-12-04 33904, 2012

      • reosarevok
        It's not about getting hugged

        • 2012-12-04 33922, 2012

      • ocharles
        i'm sure you're welcome to hug too

        • 2012-12-04 33959, 2012

      • warp
        many years ago I frequented #hug here on freenode, it was the most hostile channel I've seen on irc.

        • 2012-12-04 33932, 2012

      • ocharles ponders what to do on NES next

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      • ocharles
        I guess releases with a tracklist would be a start!

        • 2012-12-04 33910, 2012

      • warp wonders why edits_pending isn't updating.

        • 2012-12-04 33936, 2012

      • warp
        (debugging/testing coverart is a pain)

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      • ocharles
        on production?

        • 2012-12-04 33927, 2012

      • warp
        cover_art_archive.cover_art.edits_pending isn't updating on production, no.

        • 2012-12-04 33937, 2012

      • warp
        debugging/testing is not something I do on production :)

        • 2012-12-04 33955, 2012

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      • warp
        http://narf-archive.com/pix/4f80fb286802d62eaee92…

        • 2012-12-04 33948, 2012

      • nikki
        warp: so is it good or bad that I understand what it's doing?

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      • ocharles
        ok, gotta run, bbiab

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      • warp
        nikki: the php thing? I had to read the documentation to figure out what's going on there.

        • 2012-12-04 33952, 2012

      • nikki
        warp: yes

        • 2012-12-04 33903, 2012

      • nikki
        warp: well, I'm assuming I understand it

        • 2012-12-04 33952, 2012

      • warp
        ( (TRUE ? "a" : TRUE) ? "b" : "c" ) is what happens.

        • 2012-12-04 33957, 2012

      • nikki
        yeah

        • 2012-12-04 33957, 2012

      • warp
        which is different from javascript, C/C++, etc...

        • 2012-12-04 33903, 2012

      • nikki
        yeah

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      • ocharles
        ruaok: just wrapping things up now

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      • ocharles
        warp: wtf, that is the most retarded precedance ever

        • 2012-12-04 33919, 2012

      • ruaok
        k

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      • warp
        ocharles :)

        • 2012-12-04 33903, 2012

      • Freso
        ruaok: Just sent the mail to Rasmus at raptekster.dk. I'll get back to you when he replies.

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      • ocharles
        ruaok: all yours

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      • ruaok
        ocharles: thanks!

        • 2012-12-04 33952, 2012

      • ocharles
        sorry about the delay, seems half my life is at home and half my life is at the office right now :)

        • 2012-12-04 33903, 2012

      • ruaok
        no worries. I know the feeling.

        • 2012-12-04 33915, 2012

      • ruaok
        I'm not at home in SLO, not at home in PDX. Not at home in the US. Not at home in Spain.

        • 2012-12-04 33931, 2012

      • nikki
        ugh, that feeling

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      • nikki was so happy to move here and finally have somewhere to call home

        • 2012-12-04 33914, 2012

      • ruaok
        yep, I'm looking forward to the same.

        • 2012-12-04 33957, 2012

      • ruaok
        I doubt I'll ever fully feel at home anywhere. I'll likely miss california once I've gone.

        • 2012-12-04 33908, 2012

      • ruaok
        oh well, I live on the intertubes.

        • 2012-12-04 33909, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And when you do

        • 2012-12-04 33921, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You just need to remember "but it's full of 'mericans"

        • 2012-12-04 33924, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And you'll feel fine

        • 2012-12-04 33928, 2012

      • ruaok
        srsly.

        • 2012-12-04 33934, 2012

      • nikki
        there's a few things I miss here