#musicbrainz-devel

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      • mb-chat-logger
      • 2012-12-10 34550, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae can look at it after the meeting, thanks :)
      • 2012-12-10 34552, 2012

      • warp
        ruaok: that's it.
      • 2012-12-10 34505, 2012

      • ruaok
        great. thanks for tackling that.
      • 2012-12-10 34519, 2012

      • ruaok
        one quite note: last month I gave a music tech talk in London that Ian had to endure:
      • 2012-12-10 34538, 2012

      • ruaok
      • 2012-12-10 34542, 2012

      • ruaok
        if anyone is interested.
      • 2012-12-10 34543, 2012

      • dukeleto joined the channel
      • 2012-12-10 34549, 2012

      • ruaok
        nothing earth shattering in there. :)
      • 2012-12-10 34501, 2012

      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: how about your week?
      • 2012-12-10 34510, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        sure
      • 2012-12-10 34515, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        so, my week was straightforward
      • 2012-12-10 34525, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        monday: making an ass of myself while cleaning up some merge snafus
      • 2012-12-10 34530, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        tuesday-sunday: ingestr
      • 2012-12-10 34550, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        wasn't quite a full week hours-wise, but I've gotten a good bit of focused work done on ingestr
      • 2012-12-10 34553, 2012

      • ruaok
        ingrestr: \ø/
      • 2012-12-10 34509, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I'll be writing up a wiki page on where I am with that, design decisions, etc
      • 2012-12-10 34510, 2012

      • ruaok
        so, is ingrestr going to stick or are we going to call it nommr? :)
      • 2012-12-10 34520, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        that's in a sec, actually :)
      • 2012-12-10 34522, 2012

      • warp downloads 914 megabytes of ruaok.
      • 2012-12-10 34537, 2012

      • ruaok
        warp: did you just call me FAT??
      • 2012-12-10 34502, 2012

      • warp
        lol
      • 2012-12-10 34503, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        feature-wise there's a couple things left: interface glue for doing matchings to MB (probably hijacking /ws/js for some autocomplete) (all the actual code to make them work is done, just need to make the javascript go)
      • 2012-12-10 34503, 2012

      • ocharles
        warp: high definition ruaok ?
      • 2012-12-10 34504, 2012

      • ocharles
        eep
      • 2012-12-10 34513, 2012

      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2012-12-10 34519, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        and some things about importing automatic matchings
      • 2012-12-10 34525, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        but in general it's looking pretty good :)
      • 2012-12-10 34538, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        hoping to put it up somewhere with some set of data in the next couple days
      • 2012-12-10 34543, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        as for names
      • 2012-12-10 34548, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        ingestr is boring :P
      • 2012-12-10 34553, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        and was somewhat interim
      • 2012-12-10 34501, 2012

      • ocharles
        7digital already has Gester, btw
      • 2012-12-10 34506, 2012

      • ocharles
        or maybe they spell it as Jester
      • 2012-12-10 34506, 2012

      • ruaok
        heh. we know what happens to interim names.
      • 2012-12-10 34508, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, that too
      • 2012-12-10 34508, 2012

      • ruaok
        see X-rays. :)
      • 2012-12-10 34509, 2012

      • ocharles
        but either way, that's taken ;)
      • 2012-12-10 34512, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        in some various channels I've discussed some other options for names
      • 2012-12-10 34526, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        one was nom[me]r, off of 'om nom nom'
      • 2012-12-10 34536, 2012

      • warp
        om nom nom
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      • ianmcorvidae
        the other was to go with our other long-lasting interim name and choose a star trek character
      • 2012-12-10 34546, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae was leaning towards 'geordi' :P
      • 2012-12-10 34500, 2012

      • ruaok
        ha!
      • 2012-12-10 34506, 2012

      • warp does not object.
      • 2012-12-10 34507, 2012

      • ruaok
        +1 to geordi. :)
      • 2012-12-10 34509, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        decided that 'data' was a bit too silly
      • 2012-12-10 34514, 2012

      • ruaok
        ha!
      • 2012-12-10 34518, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        obviously not a terribly important decision, but if folks have thoughts/ideas, prod me
      • 2012-12-10 34522, 2012

      • ocharles
        ianmcorvidae: we have musicbrainz-data so that'd conflict a bit too
      • 2012-12-10 34524, 2012

      • ijabz
        I like the name ingestr
      • 2012-12-10 34526, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        indeed :)
      • 2012-12-10 34544, 2012

      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: you should make the final decision. its your baby now.
      • 2012-12-10 34545, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        ocharles: on that note, you should put a picture of Data in the readme file for that, clearly ;0
      • 2012-12-10 34551, 2012

      • Leftmost
        As long as we stick with TNG.
      • 2012-12-10 34551, 2012

      • ruaok
        I should mention that I had a call with MetroLyrics, a sister company to last.fm.
      • 2012-12-10 34559, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        Leftmost: lol
      • 2012-12-10 34501, 2012

      • ruaok
        they are going to go ahead and match their tracks to MB.
      • 2012-12-10 34502, 2012

      • ocharles
        ianmcorvidae: am I missing a reference? :P
      • 2012-12-10 34505, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        (anyway, that's all for me)
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      • ruaok
        and then send us a dump of their matching for review.
      • 2012-12-10 34524, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
      • 2012-12-10 34524, 2012

      • ruaok
        for the first go-round I asked for the best, most strict matching.
      • 2012-12-10 34548, 2012

      • ruaok
        so that we can feed that nommr/geordi and have a look at the matching.
      • 2012-12-10 34551, 2012

      • ocharles
        ianmcorvidae: ah. not having seen star trek makes me miss these things :)
      • 2012-12-10 34510, 2012

      • ruaok
        ocharles: you're next
      • 2012-12-10 34511, 2012

      • Leftmost
        Besides, Data doesn't eat.
      • 2012-12-10 34517, 2012

      • ruaok
        ha!
      • 2012-12-10 34521, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        lol
      • 2012-12-10 34525, 2012

      • ocharles
        ok, I had a really productive week with NES
      • 2012-12-10 34528, 2012

      • ruaok
        Leftmost: he does: electrons
      • 2012-12-10 34538, 2012

      • ocharles
        check out this graph:
      • 2012-12-10 34541, 2012

      • ocharles
      • 2012-12-10 34555, 2012

      • ocharles
        that's the amount of tests we have - which is climbing at a really healthy rate
      • 2012-12-10 34527, 2012

      • ocharles
        of the new functionality I added last week, we have: works, iswcs, isrcs, secondary release group types, puids, tracklists and mediums, release labels, and url entities
      • 2012-12-10 34542, 2012

      • ruaok
        wow, nice
      • 2012-12-10 34555, 2012

      • ocharles
        the musicbrainz-data-service itself is slowly catching up and exposing the functionality that the library has, but it's naturally still behind; the library is just more fun to work on
      • 2012-12-10 34524, 2012

      • ocharles
        over the weekend I studied "A Formal Investigation of Diff3", and battled with my keyboard first producing https://gist.github.com/71e55997e854133b0a4c
      • 2012-12-10 34534, 2012

      • ocharles
        and then finally reducing that absolute mess to https://github.com/ocharles/diff3/blob/master/src… :)
      • 2012-12-10 34547, 2012

      • ocharles
        so - I'm now ready to add Tracklist merging
      • 2012-12-10 34510, 2012

      • ocharles
        the current implementation conflicts if either side has changed (only linear editing works) which is... shit. :)
      • 2012-12-10 34519, 2012

      • ocharles
        tomorrow I'll hopefully wire this in to NES
      • 2012-12-10 34538, 2012

      • ocharles
        of the "high priority" nes stuff still to do, I have...
      • 2012-12-10 34556, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        ugh, yeah, tracklist conflicts are annoying at present, looking forward to improvements
      • 2012-12-10 34559, 2012

      • ocharles
        relationships still need to be looked at again (they are still missing), and I need to think about how deletions work
      • 2012-12-10 34507, 2012

      • ocharles
        ianmcorvidae: they will still conflict in pretty much the same way
      • 2012-12-10 34511, 2012

      • ocharles
        but at least now you can resolve them
      • 2012-12-10 34539, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, fair enough :)
      • 2012-12-10 34500, 2012

      • ocharles
        because i worked over the weekend more than I planned, I needed today off
      • 2012-12-10 34508, 2012

      • ocharles
        so nothing today other than the release
      • 2012-12-10 34510, 2012

      • ocharles
        fin.
      • 2012-12-10 34517, 2012

      • ruaok
        right-o.
      • 2012-12-10 34525, 2012

      • ruaok
        sounds like a productive week all around.
      • 2012-12-10 34534, 2012

      • ruaok
        ok, who else for review?
      • 2012-12-10 34541, 2012

      • ijabz
        Talking of names I have some news, I have just released a new Musicbrainz based Tagger called SongKong http://www.jthink.net/songkong/index.jsp so Id like to add that to the tagger affiliate programme
      • 2012-12-10 34542, 2012

      • ruaok
        ijabz, nikki, reoabsent?
      • 2012-12-10 34543, 2012

      • warp
        ocharles: I'll try to grab some time this week for NES. on which weekdays are you planning MB work this week?
      • 2012-12-10 34524, 2012

      • ruaok
        then hit me with the link.
      • 2012-12-10 34525, 2012

      • ocharles
        warp: pretty much all of them. last.fm work finishes this week, so i'm just wrapping up things with them
      • 2012-12-10 34538, 2012

      • ruaok
        the Yate tagger also now has a page and then we can get both of them added to menu.
      • 2012-12-10 34543, 2012

      • warp
        ocharles: ok
      • 2012-12-10 34552, 2012

      • ijabz
        ok, If anyone is interesrted in trying it out and giving me some feedback i have a few free licenses to dish out, just pm me
      • 2012-12-10 34501, 2012

      • ruaok
        ocharles: when do you go on holidays, so everyone knows?
      • 2012-12-10 34512, 2012

      • ruaok
        ijabz: mac supported?
      • 2012-12-10 34515, 2012

      • ruaok
        if so, hit me.
      • 2012-12-10 34518, 2012

      • ijabz
        yep
      • 2012-12-10 34520, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        ah, good to know yate's actually part of the affiliate program, been watching the wiki edits and wondering :)
      • 2012-12-10 34541, 2012

      • ruaok
        anyone else for review??
      • 2012-12-10 34504, 2012

      • ocharles
        I'm on holiday 18th dec to the new year
      • 2012-12-10 34507, 2012

      • ruaok notes that he needs to go very soon.
      • 2012-12-10 34513, 2012

      • ruaok
        so, on the WS issues and the recording issues...
      • 2012-12-10 34514, 2012

      • ocharles
        mostly a holiday anyway, i'll probably still be around and hack on NES as I feel like it
      • 2012-12-10 34519, 2012

      • ruaok
        ocharles: ok
      • 2012-12-10 34524, 2012

      • ocharles
        :)
      • 2012-12-10 34528, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        ocharles: will you be around for the release that happens during then?
      • 2012-12-10 34533, 2012

      • ocharles
        ianmcorvidae: ya
      • 2012-12-10 34536, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        saw discussion of that earlier, hence :)
      • 2012-12-10 34538, 2012

      • ruaok
        good.
      • 2012-12-10 34539, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        cool, cool
      • 2012-12-10 34555, 2012

      • ruaok
        I need to review the WS issues doc this week and see if I can clean up the comments.
      • 2012-12-10 34509, 2012

      • ruaok
        after that I would like to have a meeting that is dedicated to that topic.
      • 2012-12-10 34520, 2012

      • LordSputnik
        got to go afk, on the recording issues, reo has done: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Reosarevok/Recor…
      • 2012-12-10 34533, 2012

      • ruaok
        ok, time for me to go.
      • 2012-12-10 34537, 2012

      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: can you please lead the meeting through the DR stuff?
      • 2012-12-10 34547, 2012

      • ruaok
        LordSputnik: thanks. I'll also try and review that this week.
      • 2012-12-10 34552, 2012

      • ruaok
        ok, thanks everyon!
      • 2012-12-10 34554, 2012

      • ruaok
        +e
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      • warp
        bye ruaok!
      • 2012-12-10 34557, 2012

      • ruaok
        sorry I need to run off!
      • 2012-12-10 34557, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        sure
      • 2012-12-10 34500, 2012

      • ruaok
        ttfn!
      • 2012-12-10 34503, 2012

      • ruaok
        thanks!
      • 2012-12-10 34507, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        so, DR stuff
      • 2012-12-10 34513, 2012

      • warp
        are we done with reviews?
      • 2012-12-10 34526, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I think so, unless there's someone else?
      • 2012-12-10 34547, 2012

      • warp
        apparently not :)
      • 2012-12-10 34557, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        cool
      • 2012-12-10 34515, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        so, as LordSputnik linked, reosarevok's put together a page on recording-related issues, which came out of our discussion last week on MBS-2021
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      • mb-chat-logger
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      • ianmcorvidae
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      • ianmcorvidae
        my understanding is that this is to serve as an overview of the issues as we consider how best to fix issues with recordings/tracks generally
      • 2012-12-10 34536, 2012

      • ocharles
        and we feel it's best to tackle them all at once?
      • 2012-12-10 34544, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I think that's not quite clear
      • 2012-12-10 34548, 2012

      • ocharles
        ok
      • 2012-12-10 34556, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        I think the intention here is to figure out what exactly is best to tackle
      • 2012-12-10 34547, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        reosarevok has grouped them fairly reasonably; the style discussions are very broad while the tickets are sometimes narrower than they maybe should be
      • 2012-12-10 34556, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        (in my opinion, of course)
      • 2012-12-10 34502, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        so, hm.
      • 2012-12-10 34515, 2012

      • warp
        give us clear bikesheds for which to decide the colour!
      • 2012-12-10 34526, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, exactly