ianmcorvidae: You need to put some time aside for reviewing the OAuth patch. I don't want to give Geordi my password every time I go to it. :p
2012-12-30 36511, 2012
reosarevok
Freso: huh? I have never had to re-login
2012-12-30 36523, 2012
nikki
I've had to a few times
2012-12-30 36531, 2012
reosarevok
Curious :)
2012-12-30 36528, 2012
Freso
The three times I've visited, I've had to login.
2012-12-30 36545, 2012
Freso
reosarevok: Do you also not have to log in to AcoustID?
2012-12-30 36553, 2012
reosarevok
Dunno, I rarely visit the site
2012-12-30 36502, 2012
reosarevok
But I don't remember re-logging in there either
2012-12-30 36504, 2012
reosarevok
(when I have)
2012-12-30 36520, 2012
Freso
ianmcorvidae: How do you import something from Geordi to MusicBrainz? Or is that not available yet?
2012-12-30 36530, 2012
nikki
not available yet
2012-12-30 36535, 2012
Freso
Aw.
2012-12-30 36513, 2012
reosarevok
I've just copied and pasted the tracklist a couple times
2012-12-30 36525, 2012
reosarevok
Not that much to remove, just the acoustID stuff
2012-12-30 36534, 2012
reosarevok
But yeah, an import button would be nice :)
2012-12-30 36518, 2012
nikki
luks: ah, thanks :D
2012-12-30 36525, 2012
Freso
Speaking of Picard...
2012-12-30 36529, 2012
Freso goes to make a ticket
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Freso
ianmcorvidae: Ping?
2012-12-30 36551, 2012
nikki
he's probably still asleep
2012-12-30 36554, 2012
Freso
Yep. And now there's a ping waiting for him when he wakes up. :D
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ianmcorvidae
Freso: pong
2012-12-30 36522, 2012
ianmcorvidae
Freso: there's no import function in geordi yet, just matching
2012-12-30 36529, 2012
ianmcorvidae
Freso: though obviously it's on the roadmap :)
2012-12-30 36546, 2012
kepstin
I guess import would be release editor seeding?
2012-12-30 36525, 2012
ianmcorvidae
that is one sort of import, yes
2012-12-30 36551, 2012
ianmcorvidae
for what's mapped at present I think that's the only one that'd be needed, but ultimately there will presumably be some non-release stuff :)
2012-12-30 36510, 2012
ianmcorvidae
notably I know of some stuff that will have URLs
2012-12-30 36536, 2012
ianmcorvidae
Freso, nikki, reosarevok: your needing to relogin or not is probably a product of your respective browser usage patterns and preferences; I've never had to relogin either (except when I explicitly log out), but I also basically never close my browser :P
2012-12-30 36541, 2012
nikki doesn't like session cookies
2012-12-30 36555, 2012
nikki
I don't want to have to worry about whether I'm going to be logged out if I restart my browser :/
2012-12-30 36526, 2012
kepstin
what i really hate is when a site logs you out in your other browsers when you log in with a new one
2012-12-30 36535, 2012
nikki
oh yeah, that's evil
2012-12-30 36528, 2012
Freso
ianmcorvidae: How would one go about getting more datasets added to Geordi?
2012-12-30 36550, 2012
Freso
ianmcorvidae: I'm thinking of http://smdb.kb.se/ in particular right now. Should the "dataset" be contacted? Should you/MB contact them? Are we "on hold" waiting for further Geordi/WCD development before looking into getting/adding more?
2012-12-30 36513, 2012
Freso
ianmcorvidae: Do you want me to ask you more questions, or do you want to answer those first? :D
2012-12-30 36514, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I think the answer to all of those is "we don't know"
2012-12-30 36525, 2012
ianmcorvidae
however, personally I would love for there to be more datasets
2012-12-30 36505, 2012
Mineo
ianmcorvidae: your last email to mb-devel (and a few more) seems broken with half the headers in the message
2012-12-30 36508, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I've been looking into adding Jamendo, vaguely
2012-12-30 36518, 2012
ianmcorvidae
bah, probably my client broke it again :/
2012-12-30 36519, 2012
Freso
http://smdb.kb.se/ looks really comprehensive for Swedish stuff. Not that I have a deep interest in Swedish, but if it'd allow us to add composers and lyricists and performers to a bunch of (Swedish) stuff... :D
2012-12-30 36524, 2012
nikki
most of ian's emails seem to be like that :P
2012-12-30 36526, 2012
ianmcorvidae
it sometimes adds linebreaks in the subject
2012-12-30 36530, 2012
ianmcorvidae
"most" is a stretch :P
2012-12-30 36554, 2012
nikki
hmm. I should extract some data from the stuff I've acquired
2012-12-30 36559, 2012
Freso should probably just add a release relationship RFC for now
2012-12-30 36518, 2012
ianmcorvidae
that's not a terrible start
2012-12-30 36554, 2012
ianmcorvidae
if you can get a dump out of what they have, and reason for me to think it's fine to import it, I can do that :)
2012-12-30 36537, 2012
kepstin
hmm. would it be possible/make sense to somehow add things to geordi where you can't get a dump, but just have access to e.g. a search and screen-scraping?
2012-12-30 36533, 2012
ianmcorvidae
the import scripts might need tweaking, depending how their stuff is formatted -- right now it's optimized for "a bunch of directories full of XML + JSON files, with the directories named according to the identifier they should be under in geordi"
2012-12-30 36550, 2012
ianmcorvidae
well, search + screen-scraping is a way of acquiring data :P
2012-12-30 36513, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I think what's unclear, at least to me, is what the scope of "things we want in geordi" really is
2012-12-30 36533, 2012
ianmcorvidae
derwin has been doing things like extracting metadata from large collections of scene-released music among his friends
2012-12-30 36549, 2012
ianmcorvidae
which I'm unclear if that's what we want
2012-12-30 36501, 2012
ianmcorvidae
but on the other end things like Jamendo, Discogs, etc. seem straightforwardly useful
2012-12-30 36511, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(and have explicitly public-domain data)
2012-12-30 36528, 2012
ianmcorvidae
stuff like this smdb.kb.se thing, stuff we have to scrape, etc., get more fuzzy
2012-12-30 36504, 2012
ianmcorvidae
however for now geordi is very beta
2012-12-30 36509, 2012
ianmcorvidae
so give me all the datas :D
2012-12-30 36538, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(especially if you'll subsequently send me pull requests to develop the mapping for said datas)
2012-12-30 36523, 2012
alastairp
can we talk about having the bot know when meeting holidays are?
2012-12-30 36540, 2012
warp
kepstin: hah, that is certainly evil.
2012-12-30 36553, 2012
alastairp
it seems ridiculous to have an automated email system that can't be configured for, you know, emailing on the right day
2012-12-30 36524, 2012
ianmcorvidae
heh, the bot thing is really silly
2012-12-30 36548, 2012
ianmcorvidae
presumably I should have prodded rob to figure out where it's running so we could just stop the cronjob for a couple weeks
2012-12-30 36556, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(assuming it's running within MB, I'm not sure)
2012-12-30 36506, 2012
alastairp
yeaah
2012-12-30 36512, 2012
reosarevok
alastairp: it's intentionally designed to be useless and annoying, I think
2012-12-30 36515, 2012
reosarevok
(see its name :p)
2012-12-30 36516, 2012
alastairp
I just found the source. maybe we can fix it
2012-12-30 36548, 2012
reosarevok
IIRC ruaok built it one day because he was tired of everyone asking when the meetings were
2012-12-30 36520, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I think "one day" may be overestimating the time expenditure
2012-12-30 36526, 2012
alastairp
so, it seems useful to have something that says when the meeting is then :)
2012-12-30 36536, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I submitted a patch to make the UUID formatting closer to what MB does ;)
2012-12-30 36540, 2012
alastairp
let me look at it this week, maybe
2012-12-30 36548, 2012
nikki
I thought the problem was more remembering to send emails
2012-12-30 36503, 2012
nikki
so people never knew if the missing email meant no meeting or just a forgotten reminder
2012-12-30 36513, 2012
nikki
whereas now there's a bot sending them and people are like "wait a minute, that's wrong *reply*"
2012-12-30 36525, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah, that sounds right
2012-12-30 36540, 2012
reosarevok
Oh, ok
2012-12-30 36552, 2012
ianmcorvidae
and sometimes people wouldn't make new threads, which I think is the reason for the "issue <UUID>" thing :P
2012-12-30 36550, 2012
warp
ianmcorvidae: your reply today isn't threaded with the original mail. odd.
2012-12-30 36505, 2012
warp
(in my client)
2012-12-30 36505, 2012
nikki
because his headers are messed up
2012-12-30 36509, 2012
ianmcorvidae
my client screwed it up
2012-12-30 36526, 2012
ianmcorvidae
because vim ignores my settings in some weird way I've never deciphered
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ruaok
the beauty of open source is that if you dont like it, you can fix it. :)
2012-12-30 36536, 2012
Freso
ianmcorvidae: Well, I'll try e-mailing SMDB then, and see what they say. They're freely giving the data to researchers, and as far as I can tell, the data collection is under the Swedish state. I have no clue what the Swedish state currently thinks about Open Data, but I know the Danish one recently releases a whole bunch of data into the open.
2012-12-30 36548, 2012
ianmcorvidae
cool
2012-12-30 36557, 2012
navap
ruaok: Have we made any changes to our server racks since the photo you took in Jan 2012?
2012-12-30 36502, 2012
ianmcorvidae
the one person I tried emailing hasn't gotten back to me, heh
