#musicbrainz-devel

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      • 2013-01-14 01406, 2013

      • ocharles
        just waiting for it to start
      • 2013-01-14 01414, 2013

      • Freso
        Where is the script that replaces e-mail addresses in .po files with "email address hidden"? `git grep`'ing for that string only returns the .po files. :/
      • 2013-01-14 01430, 2013

      • ocharles
        warp: astro done
      • 2013-01-14 01444, 2013

      • warp
        ocharles: astro back, asterix out.
      • 2013-01-14 01456, 2013

      • ocharles
        warp: asterix done
      • 2013-01-14 01409, 2013

      • warp
        ok, all back!
      • 2013-01-14 01423, 2013

      • warp clicks around.
      • 2013-01-14 01400, 2013

      • warp
        seems to be working :)
      • 2013-01-14 01454, 2013

      • ocharles
        goodo
      • 2013-01-14 01458, 2013

      • ocharles
        time to nuke a load of cover art
      • 2013-01-14 01415, 2013

      • CatCat
        [21:21] Freso My TTS works just fine, thank you.
      • 2013-01-14 01436, 2013

      • CatCat read that first as "my tits works fine"
      • 2013-01-14 01438, 2013

      • CatCat
        :P
      • 2013-01-14 01430, 2013

      • ocharles
        warp: you didn't answer my question (to luks) about where I'm meant to be reviewing oauth
      • 2013-01-14 01400, 2013

      • Freso
        ocharles: If you want to be conventional, review on review board. If you want to play with the reviewing process on GitHub, review on GitHub.
      • 2013-01-14 01410, 2013

      • Freso
        ocharles: Though I think GitHub has the newer code.
      • 2013-01-14 01415, 2013

      • Freso
        So probably GitHub.
      • 2013-01-14 01415, 2013

      • ocharles
        Freso: obviously, I'd like to know what I'm meant to be doing though
      • 2013-01-14 01447, 2013

      • Freso
        ocharles: ^
      • 2013-01-14 01449, 2013

      • Freso
        :)
      • 2013-01-14 01410, 2013

      • zas
        ocharles: are you original author of the cover art plugin that was integrated in Picard recently ?
      • 2013-01-14 01424, 2013

      • ocharles
        zas: not quite original, i did some work right at the start of it though I think
      • 2013-01-14 01444, 2013

      • zas
        ocharles: ok, i'm currently working on this part
      • 2013-01-14 01459, 2013

      • zas
        well, on covert art + Picard
      • 2013-01-14 01432, 2013

      • zas
        i'm experimenting a disk cache to prevent useless downloads from cover art providers
      • 2013-01-14 01404, 2013

      • ocharles
        sounds like a good idea
      • 2013-01-14 01408, 2013

      • zas
      • 2013-01-14 01420, 2013

      • zas
        it needs a lot of review, i'm a python newbie
      • 2013-01-14 01458, 2013

      • reosarevok sees a *very* interesting-looking mail in info@
      • 2013-01-14 01408, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Think Rob will like it too :)
      • 2013-01-14 01432, 2013

      • luks
        zas: what's the purpose of the disk cache?
      • 2013-01-14 01449, 2013

      • luks
        it seems like a feature that is useful for developers, but not so much for normal users
      • 2013-01-14 01452, 2013

      • zas
        to prevent downloads of images that were already downloaded recently
      • 2013-01-14 01402, 2013

      • ocharles
        reosarevok: interesting indeed :)
      • 2013-01-14 01438, 2013

      • luks
        zas: if I'm loading my files to picard again, I do it for the purpose of updating them
      • 2013-01-14 01453, 2013

      • luks
        it doesn't make much sense to use cache in that case
      • 2013-01-14 01455, 2013

      • Freso
        luks: +1
      • 2013-01-14 01401, 2013

      • zas
        luks: yes, but do you need to re-download same files ?
      • 2013-01-14 01414, 2013

      • zas
        imho you are missing the point
      • 2013-01-14 01448, 2013

      • Freso
        zas: He's asking about the point because he doesn't see it.
      • 2013-01-14 01407, 2013

      • luks
        zas: how do you cache the files? use a fixed timeout, or using something like etag?
      • 2013-01-14 01409, 2013

      • Freso
        zas: Stating that he's missing it... is rather obvious. :)
      • 2013-01-14 01440, 2013

      • zas
        for now fixed time, but the best would be to simply honor http cache control
      • 2013-01-14 01454, 2013

      • zas
        the thing is that picard is just ignoring all this stuff
      • 2013-01-14 01413, 2013

      • zas
        ie. CAA set 21600 (6 hours) ttl on images
      • 2013-01-14 01418, 2013

      • luks
        zas: if you want to use cache, enable caching on QNetworkManager level
      • 2013-01-14 01435, 2013

      • zas
        how ?
      • 2013-01-14 01401, 2013

      • luks
      • 2013-01-14 01408, 2013

      • zas
        hmm interesting
      • 2013-01-14 01410, 2013

      • nikki
      • 2013-01-14 01418, 2013

      • luks
        but I don't consider somebody who loads already tagged files to picard within 6 hours a normal user
      • 2013-01-14 01439, 2013

      • Freso
        nikki: Thank you!
      • 2013-01-14 01450, 2013

      • luks
        I can't really see the use case for doing that
      • 2013-01-14 01417, 2013

      • Freso
        If I load already tagged files in Picard within 6 hours, it's because I've updated the data - and possibly the cover art - and want to refresh it.
      • 2013-01-14 01440, 2013

      • zas
        Freso: in this case, images will be refreshed
      • 2013-01-14 01402, 2013

      • zas
        it just prevents to download same image more than once
      • 2013-01-14 01406, 2013

      • nikki
        I could see the people who attempt to drop their entire library into picard loading stuff within 6 hours (after picard crashed :P)
      • 2013-01-14 01409, 2013

      • Freso
        zas: But if I already saved the cover art, it will already be on disc as cover.jpg. No need to store it twice, surely?
      • 2013-01-14 01432, 2013

      • zas
        afk, bbsoon
      • 2013-01-14 01412, 2013

      • Freso
        (I do want to get rid ov "cover (N).jpg" though. :))
      • 2013-01-14 01417, 2013

      • luks
        I also don't like this being an option
      • 2013-01-14 01428, 2013

      • luks
        it's either useful or it's not
      • 2013-01-14 01456, 2013

      • luks
        yes, I hate GNOME3 for not having enough options, but this doesn't really look like something people need to enable to make it work
      • 2013-01-14 01414, 2013

      • Freso
        :)
      • 2013-01-14 01457, 2013

      • Freso
      • 2013-01-14 01420, 2013

      • zas
        back
      • 2013-01-14 01438, 2013

      • zas
        about caching, i'm just looking for a way to prevent useless downloads, when dev/testing and as user when ie. Picard crashed or i just exit/resume
      • 2013-01-14 01431, 2013

      • zas
        currently, if a release has CAA images, and you have set options to download them all, Picard will just download them again even if it did it 10 mins ago
      • 2013-01-14 01404, 2013

      • zas
        this is annoying when releases have ie. 100Mb of images
      • 2013-01-14 01438, 2013

      • Freso
        Oi warp, are you done with the release?
      • 2013-01-14 01445, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Freso: yes
      • 2013-01-14 01450, 2013

      • Freso
        If so, I was to rmeind you to merge stuff.
      • 2013-01-14 01455, 2013

      • Freso
        ;D
      • 2013-01-14 01456, 2013

      • nikki
        hmm... doesn't one of the IA files have md5s or whatever?
      • 2013-01-14 01437, 2013

      • Freso
        *remind
      • 2013-01-14 01441, 2013

      • luks
        zas: my main objection is that the feature is indeed intended for developers when testing something
      • 2013-01-14 01400, 2013

      • luks
        which is also the reason why you added it as an option
      • 2013-01-14 01426, 2013

      • luks
        I have no problem adding QNetworkAccessManager-level cache for development/testing purposes
      • 2013-01-14 01400, 2013

      • luks
        but I don't think normal users will benefit from that
      • 2013-01-14 01424, 2013

      • luks
        if anything, I'd like to change Picard so that loading your entire collection is harder, not easier
      • 2013-01-14 01445, 2013

      • zas
        i'm currently looking at QNetworkAccessManager-level cache
      • 2013-01-14 01402, 2013

      • nikki would like picard to have some sort of library so it knows what she already has (and can then conditionally include things like disambiguation comments only when necessary)
      • 2013-01-14 01442, 2013

      • luks
        I'd like if it was not called picard and picard was simplified :)
      • 2013-01-14 01420, 2013

      • nikki
        oh?
      • 2013-01-14 01421, 2013

      • luks
        we don't have anybody to maintain even picard :)
      • 2013-01-14 01424, 2013

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      • 2013-01-14 01418, 2013

      • MBJenkins
        * ollie: Use the pre-NES schema for the 'editor' table
      • 2013-01-14 01419, 2013

      • MBJenkins
        * ollie: Bump dependencies to use latest version of `semigroups`
      • 2013-01-14 01433, 2013

      • ocharles
        Crowd sourcing time!
      • 2013-01-14 01445, 2013

      • ocharles
        https://trello.com/board/musicbrainz-nes/50f408ce… -- I have created a Trello board for NES
      • 2013-01-14 01430, 2013

      • ocharles
        If people can think of places where NES impacts musicbrainz-server, please feel free to add tasks
      • 2013-01-14 01435, 2013

      • ocharles
        I think it's public
      • 2013-01-14 01436, 2013

      • nikki
        what about things like deleting releases, editing/removing relationships?
      • 2013-01-14 01451, 2013

      • nikki is not clear just how much you're trying to split it up
      • 2013-01-14 01459, 2013

      • ocharles
        Those should be tasks
      • 2013-01-14 01419, 2013

      • ocharles
        I'm looking for sort of 'isolated thingies' for now, which is intentionally vague
      • 2013-01-14 01433, 2013

      • ocharles
        just trying to collect as many to-do's, as possible to get a clear idea of the battlefield
      • 2013-01-14 01420, 2013

      • Freso
        "To use Trello, please enable JavaScript."
      • 2013-01-14 01432, 2013

      • Freso
        What's up with everybody *requiring* JS these days. :(
      • 2013-01-14 01455, 2013

      • ocharles
        Because it makes the web significantly better?
      • 2013-01-14 01456, 2013

      • alastairp
        warp: when seeding RE, you use a code for language
      • 2013-01-14 01411, 2013

      • alastairp
        which converts it to a number. is there a code that can be used for [multiple languages] ?
      • 2013-01-14 01415, 2013

      • nikki
        Freso: probably because most people don't give a shit about accessibility, they just want shiny stuff
      • 2013-01-14 01422, 2013

      • nikki
        multiple languages is mul
      • 2013-01-14 01425, 2013

      • alastairp
        ok
      • 2013-01-14 01426, 2013

      • alastairp
        thx
      • 2013-01-14 01444, 2013

      • Freso
        ocharles: I lean more towards what nikki said.
      • 2013-01-14 01405, 2013

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      • 2013-01-14 01419, 2013

      • nikki
        ocharles: add a disc id, import from freedb, view cd stub, import cd stub
      • 2013-01-14 01448, 2013

      • ocharles
        nikki: you don't have editing rights, or you'd prefer I enter them?
      • 2013-01-14 01454, 2013

      • nikki
        both, I think
      • 2013-01-14 01459, 2013

      • ocharles
        ok :)
      • 2013-01-14 01408, 2013

      • Freso
        ocharles: Watching labels, (watching collections)
      • 2013-01-14 01410, 2013

      • ocharles
        The CD stub stuff is outside NES so that should just work
      • 2013-01-14 01415, 2013

      • Freso
        ocharles: Watching editors
      • 2013-01-14 01426, 2013

      • ocharles
        oh, i think you've misunderstood me a bit, Freso
      • 2013-01-14 01433, 2013

      • Freso
        ocharles: Possibly.
      • 2013-01-14 01434, 2013

      • ocharles
        this is to get us feature matching against pre-NES
      • 2013-01-14 01438, 2013

      • ocharles
        not what we'd like for NES :)
      • 2013-01-14 01439, 2013

      • Freso
        Oh.
      • 2013-01-14 01443, 2013

      • ocharles
        let me make a separate list
      • 2013-01-14 01443, 2013

      • Freso
        Yes.
      • 2013-01-14 01450, 2013

      • ocharles
        they're worth having written down anyway
      • 2013-01-14 01451, 2013

      • Freso
        It's already possible to watch labels and editors.
      • 2013-01-14 01406, 2013

      • ocharles
        oh, subscriptions?
      • 2013-01-14 01414, 2013

      • Freso
        Isn't that what you mean? :)
      • 2013-01-14 01423, 2013

      • Freso
        If not, I have no idea what "Watching artists" is.
      • 2013-01-14 01434, 2013

      • ocharles
        we have a feature called 'watching', which means you get emails about new releases
      • 2013-01-14 01437, 2013

      • ocharles
        it never got finished/turned on
      • 2013-01-14 01442, 2013

      • Freso
        Ah.
      • 2013-01-14 01422, 2013

      • Freso
        Anyway, I can't find subscriptions mentioned anywhere either. :)
      • 2013-01-14 01427, 2013

      • ocharles
        musicbrainz-data
      • 2013-01-14 01430, 2013

      • ocharles
        2nd task
      • 2013-01-14 01434, 2013

      • Freso
        Right.
      • 2013-01-14 01439, 2013

      • Freso blind
      • 2013-01-14 01451, 2013

      • ocharles
        the search works quite nicely :)
      • 2013-01-14 01441, 2013

      • Freso
        What search? The one at the top doesn't seem to be for this board(?) specifically?
      • 2013-01-14 01452, 2013

      • Freso has never used Trello before a few minutes ago
      • 2013-01-14 01402, 2013

      • Freso
        Found it.
      • 2013-01-14 01400, 2013

      • Freso
        ocharles: You've nothing about aliases?
      • 2013-01-14 01407, 2013

      • ocharles
        nope!
      • 2013-01-14 01409, 2013

      • ocharles adds that
      • 2013-01-14 01410, 2013

      • Freso
        Works, Artists, Labels
      • 2013-01-14 01437, 2013

      • ocharles
        we have it in the data bindings though
      • 2013-01-14 01441, 2013

      • Freso
        Is i18n anything that should be mentioned?
      • 2013-01-14 01450, 2013

      • ocharles
        Hmm, that's all templates
      • 2013-01-14 01453, 2013

      • ocharles
        For the most part
      • 2013-01-14 01456, 2013

      • ocharles
        so I think we should be ok
      • 2013-01-14 01404, 2013

      • ocharles
        unless there's anything specific, I'll leave it out for now