they are properly crediting us, but I think there ought to be some support
2013-03-27 08654, 2013
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2013-03-27 08600, 2013
kepstin-work
interesting.
2013-03-27 08631, 2013
kepstin-work
presumably they're just using the CC0 data dumps
2013-03-27 08643, 2013
ruaok guesses so
2013-03-27 08623, 2013
kepstin-work
they also don't have *all* of the data included
2013-03-27 08650, 2013
ruaok
that doesn't change the fact that they ought to open their wallets and support us.
2013-03-27 08604, 2013
kepstin-work
very limited coverage, in fact. It's almost as if they're manually importing data by having people read the musicbrainz site...
2013-03-27 08631, 2013
kepstin-work would hope that's not the case :)
2013-03-27 08601, 2013
ruaok
no.
2013-03-27 08612, 2013
ruaok
there is a fellow from wolfram who was asking about your upcoming schema change
2013-03-27 08601, 2013
kepstin-work
http://products.wolframalpha.com/partnerships/ seems to be the place to start if you want to get your data into musicbrainz, but no idea where you'd go if your data is already there :)
2013-03-27 08610, 2013
kepstin-work
into wolfram*
2013-03-27 08652, 2013
ruaok
well, I have the email address of one of their people. I'll start there.
2013-03-27 08641, 2013
ruaok
man svn seems so strange and foreign to me now
2013-03-27 08647, 2013
nikki_
when are we going to move the rest of our svn stuff? :P
2013-03-27 08606, 2013
ruaok
I'm ready for that to happen.
2013-03-27 08621, 2013
ruaok
but its kinda up to the people who do the maintaining of that cod
2013-03-27 08635, 2013
reosarevok
So, nobody, in most cases :p
2013-03-27 08641, 2013
kepstin-work
looks like wolfram is getting album art from wikipedia, we should try to interest them in using the cover art archive ;)
2013-03-27 08642, 2013
reosarevok
(and ijabz in a few :) )
2013-03-27 08640, 2013
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ruaok
hi ijabz!
2013-03-27 08642, 2013
ruaok
I'm trying to compile the new search stuff, but its failing on tests.
2013-03-27 08606, 2013
ruaok
I updated mmd-schema and did mvn clean ; mvn package ; mvn install
2013-03-27 08615, 2013
ijabz
hangon
2013-03-27 08616, 2013
ruaok
then in search server I did the same and the tests are failing.
2013-03-27 08620, 2013
ruaok hangs
2013-03-27 08627, 2013
ijabz
did you do mvm install on mmd-schema ?
2013-03-27 08641, 2013
ruaok
yes
2013-03-27 08648, 2013
ruaok
I'll do it again, just in case.
2013-03-27 08605, 2013
ijabz
did you do mvm clean on search-server before mvn package ?
2013-03-27 08608, 2013
ruaok
wait, operator error. one sec.
2013-03-27 08640, 2013
ruaok
installed.
2013-03-27 08652, 2013
ruaok
now doing clean ; package on the search server.
2013-03-27 08605, 2013
ruaok
also, I just got done installing a tiny 5 port gig switch.
2013-03-27 08612, 2013
ruaok
and its only for search index traffic.
2013-03-27 08629, 2013
ruaok
so, we should be able to push search indexes much faster now.
2013-03-27 08639, 2013
ijabz
great
2013-03-27 08609, 2013
nikki_ wonders when someone is going to fix beta's search :/
2013-03-27 08628, 2013
ruaok
is warp of ijabz responsible for that?
2013-03-27 08638, 2013
ijabz
nikki, its kind of entered a black hole
2013-03-27 08656, 2013
ijabz
murdos has written the updater code, warp deals with deploying it
2013-03-27 08604, 2013
ijabz
I don't actuyally know anything about the updater
2013-03-27 08618, 2013
ijabz
but I ma going to try and set it up on my home server now that I have one
2013-03-27 08632, 2013
ruaok
warp: prod
2013-03-27 08642, 2013
ruaok
build successful. :)
2013-03-27 08656, 2013
ianmcorvidae appears
2013-03-27 08605, 2013
ruaok
moin
2013-03-27 08611, 2013
ianmcorvidae
moin
2013-03-27 08620, 2013
ianmcorvidae
ruaok: did you get my email re: the music biz conference thing?
2013-03-27 08631, 2013
ruaok
I did.
2013-03-27 08636, 2013
ruaok
do you need an immediate answer?
2013-03-27 08606, 2013
ianmcorvidae
well, they pestered me again about it, but other than that I don't think it matters
2013-03-27 08615, 2013
ianmcorvidae
(it just means the info goes up later)
2013-03-27 08622, 2013
ijabz
ruaok: so nothing for me to respond to for an hour or so I guess whilst the indexes build ?
2013-03-27 08628, 2013
ruaok
ok, I can answer in a few.
2013-03-27 08635, 2013
ruaok
ijabz: appears so, yes.
2013-03-27 08657, 2013
reosarevok
well, unless you want to talk about moving out of svn :p
2013-03-27 08628, 2013
ijabz
reosarevok: sure we can talk, why has that just come up ?
2013-03-27 08650, 2013
reosarevok
Well, they were talking about moving the rest of svn
2013-03-27 08655, 2013
reosarevok
(they being nikki_ and ruaok)
2013-03-27 08606, 2013
ruaok didn't mean to start anything
2013-03-27 08613, 2013
ijabz
Actually I would like mmd-schema to be moved to git, I asked ocharles about this some time ago
2013-03-27 08655, 2013
ijabz
Thats the only part of search that coredevs contribute to would allow me to see how git/bitbucket works with my workflow
2013-03-27 08626, 2013
ijabz
Then the inevitable move for search-server would be simpler, how thats sound ?
2013-03-27 08608, 2013
ruaok
sounds like a great first step.
2013-03-27 08636, 2013
ruaok starts make on cartman
2013-03-27 08626, 2013
ijabz
perhaps you could prod someone to do it
2013-03-27 08630, 2013
ruaok
I want to do that, but everyone has heaps of stuff to do with the schema change
2013-03-27 08636, 2013
reosarevok
Who was it who did the last svn-to-git thing?
2013-03-27 08642, 2013
reosarevok
IIRC it wasn't a core dev
2013-03-27 08653, 2013
reosarevok
Unless it was luks maybe?
2013-03-27 08605, 2013
ruaok
leftmost might be interested in doing that.
2013-03-27 08619, 2013
reosarevok
Yeah, although he does have a ticket
2013-03-27 08644, 2013
ijabz
no massive rush, just pencil it in for after schema chnages
2013-03-27 08608, 2013
ijabz
might be safer to do it that way actually, as schema changes will rehires changes to mmd-schema
just to really drive home the hippie part of "metadata hippie" I guess
2013-03-27 08641, 2013
ruaok
lol
2013-03-27 08650, 2013
ianmcorvidae
BA in something approximating CS because hampshire doesn't have majors
2013-03-27 08601, 2013
ruaok
k
2013-03-27 08603, 2013
ruaok
In his formative hippie years Ian McEwen attended Hampshire College?. after graduation he doubled down on his committment to being a hippie and dedicated himself to the mission of improving music metadata via metadata hippie incantations.
2013-03-27 08617, 2013
ruaok
feh. where did that ? come from?
2013-03-27 08636, 2013
ruaok can't spell massachusets worth a shit
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reosarevok
ruaok: "But he still showers reasonably often"
2013-03-27 08648, 2013
ruaok
once a month, even if its not necessary.
2013-03-27 08612, 2013
ruaok
yay, already a response from wolfram. they want to feed data back to us. :-D
2013-03-27 08603, 2013
ruaok
ianmcorvidae: my attempt at a bio sent. I may have not actually used the term hippie.
2013-03-27 08607, 2013
HSOWA wouldn't mind the term hippie used in a bio about himself :D
2013-03-27 08640, 2013
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ruaok
I'm still surprised how much people like the term "metadata hippie"
2013-03-27 08605, 2013
HSOWA has no idea what that means :D
2013-03-27 08613, 2013
reosarevok
I don't like it because I want to think we won't get boring and watered down after a decade or so :p
2013-03-27 08630, 2013
HSOWA
silly reosarevok, ekte hippier dør ikke
2013-03-27 08634, 2013
HSOWA
de bare tar en trip
2013-03-27 08645, 2013
ruaok
HSOWA: at a couple of conferences I called us metadata hippies. musicbrainz in general.
2013-03-27 08648, 2013
HSOWA
hmm. probably that doesn't work as good in english
2013-03-27 08658, 2013
S1RC
Anyone able to answer a question for me?
2013-03-27 08659, 2013
ruaok
like hippies our ideals are somewhat unclear to the mainstream
2013-03-27 08600, 2013
kepstin-work
HSOWA: I think it means people who tend to have long or unusual hair, dress funny, and have an interest in sharing music metadata freely with others/
2013-03-27 08601, 2013
HSOWA
ruaok: sounds awesome to me :D
2013-03-27 08612, 2013
ruaok
S1RC: only if you ask the question!
2013-03-27 08614, 2013
HSOWA
my mother was a genuine hippie so yea
2013-03-27 08617, 2013
ruaok
HSOWA: :)
2013-03-27 08630, 2013
ruaok has been to the rainbow gatherings in the forests in the US
2013-03-27 08631, 2013
HSOWA
kepstin-work: :D
2013-03-27 08656, 2013
HSOWA ca nvote for the "dress unusally" part atleast
2013-03-27 08602, 2013
HSOWA
maybe i can get weird hair soon
2013-03-27 08613, 2013
S1RC
I set up a mirror server for my Headphones to check, but it still gives me a blacklisted error on api requests. Can I fix that in the server somewhere?
2013-03-27 08647, 2013
kepstin-work
S1RC: that probably just means that you haven't reconfigured your headphones to point at the mirror server; it's still trying to access our main server.
2013-03-27 08655, 2013
kepstin-work doesn't know any headphones configuration.
2013-03-27 08611, 2013
ruaok
S1RC: or that you haven't installed the search server locally.
2013-03-27 08624, 2013
ruaok
if you haven't searches are still being carried out by our servers, which are rate limited.
2013-03-27 08625, 2013
S1RC
It's definitely on custom, pointed at the ip:port of the VM.
