I was going to complete ignore the DB and remove the column at the next schema change
2013-08-01 21351, 2013
warp returns
2013-08-01 21356, 2013
ocharles
my branch simple loads recording->length from track lengths, and never edits it
2013-08-01 21358, 2013
nikki
we haven't decided to get rid of standalone recordings, so we can't do that :/
2013-08-01 21359, 2013
ocharles
simply*
2013-08-01 21304, 2013
ocharles
oh
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ijabz
this is on a PC, Fusion seems to be Mac only
2013-08-01 21311, 2013
ocharles
guess I'll need to rework it then
2013-08-01 21324, 2013
warp
ruaok: bin/replicate now finished
2013-08-01 21338, 2013
warp
ijabz: on windows you want "VMWare Player"
2013-08-01 21305, 2013
warp starts bin/reindex
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ijabz
warp, ah thx doesnt even seem to be listed on mian product page but found it now
2013-08-01 21351, 2013
JonnyJD_
ianmcorvidae: tell me if you get it to work with VirtualBox. I didn't and I am out of ideas currently. Also added a comment to the blog post.
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ianmcorvidae
yeah, I'm poking at it
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ianmcorvidae
but who knows what, if anything, I'll figure out
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ijabz
out of interest does Vm Fusion just turn your mac into a linux/windows box stopping its usage as a OSX box ?
2013-08-01 21309, 2013
nikki
no
2013-08-01 21335, 2013
nikki
at least, none of the ones I've used have done that
2013-08-01 21329, 2013
kepstin-work
ijabz: if I remember correctly, the only special thing about fusion as opposed to normal vmware is that it let you have individual windows per app rather than a desktop window that hold everything.
2013-08-01 21354, 2013
warp
ruaok: so far bin/reindex seems to be working. I'm going to suspend it now, I'll resume it in a couple of hours and leave it running then.
2013-08-01 21301, 2013
ijabz
oh,ok
2013-08-01 21317, 2013
ruaok
great, thanks!
2013-08-01 21331, 2013
nikki
kepstin-work: yeah, sounds about right
2013-08-01 21343, 2013
nikki
I just run it as a normal single window though
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ijabz
um, username:musicbrainz, password:musicbrainz doesnt seem to be correct ?
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warp
username: vm, password: musicbrainz
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ijabz
ah I was looking at doc page rather than wiki page
2013-08-01 21356, 2013
warp
oh is the transcluded page out-of-date? nikki, reosarevok, can either of you check/transclude?
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ijabz
heh for me | command ouputs >, does everyone get that, how can I fix that
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warp
the '|' key gets you a '>' character you mean?
2013-08-01 21359, 2013
nikki
what page? I don't see anything about a vm in the transclusion table that's out of date
nikki: I don't think we have a dedicated VM page or whatever
2013-08-01 21353, 2013
nikki
updated
2013-08-01 21305, 2013
warp
ijabz: the virtual machine is probably configured for a US Qwerty keyboard layout.
2013-08-01 21313, 2013
ijabz
ok, ill look later
2013-08-01 21329, 2013
ocharles
much easier to just SSH in
2013-08-01 21335, 2013
ocharles
then you'll use your natural keyboard layout, not the machines
2013-08-01 21346, 2013
ijabz
well good news for me server starts up and I can connect to it okay
2013-08-01 21353, 2013
ocharles
that is good news
2013-08-01 21357, 2013
warp
:)
2013-08-01 21303, 2013
ianmcorvidae
virtualbox seems to be failing to even issue the same error message repeatedly, for me :P
2013-08-01 21316, 2013
ijabz
Ive given the VM 8GB, and just kicked of the search index building
2013-08-01 21326, 2013
ocharles
ruaok: we should update the blog post to say this doesn't work in VirtualBox
2013-08-01 21334, 2013
JonnyJD_
nikki: I am not really sure the documentation should be updated already, since the new VW at least doesn't work with VirtualBox
2013-08-01 21339, 2013
ocharles
ijabz: you rebooted it too, right?
2013-08-01 21358, 2013
ocharles
ijabz: could you run: psql -U postgres template1 -c "SHOW shared_buffers"
2013-08-01 21305, 2013
ianmcorvidae
(first time, importing just the vmdk, it says something about a misformatted header, but after that it seems to just say it's unsupported)
2013-08-01 21306, 2013
ijabz
I set it to 8GB before i started it
2013-08-01 21310, 2013
ocharles
wanna make sure the configuration thing worked
2013-08-01 21312, 2013
ocharles
ijabz: ok, cool
2013-08-01 21315, 2013
nikki
JonnyJD_: the old vm is pretty useless anyway
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JonnyJD_
nikki: hm, because of the perl dependency hell thing?
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ianmcorvidae
it's probably only useful if you actually deliberately want out-of-date data
2013-08-01 21346, 2013
nikki
well, because it's ancient
2013-08-01 21344, 2013
ijabz
ocharles 1995MB
2013-08-01 21353, 2013
ocharles
ijabz: perfect
2013-08-01 21355, 2013
ijabz
so thats right I guess
2013-08-01 21359, 2013
ocharles
ruaok's script is doing the right thing :)
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ijabz
seems to be working okay, though I'm a bit disappointed with this labtops sound and screen, performance wise no problems
2013-08-01 21341, 2013
ruaok
so, aside from VB issues, no problems so far?
2013-08-01 21350, 2013
ruaok was on the phone to spotify
2013-08-01 21330, 2013
ijabz
not for me (unles syou include the key mapping)
2013-08-01 21330, 2013
ocharles
"One of the things I consider before diving into a new library is whether or not ocharles has written an intro for it." awwwwww
2013-08-01 21354, 2013
ianmcorvidae
the primary difference I can see in the vmdk headers is that the new one seems to have spaces after values, where an old vmdk from the last release doesn't
2013-08-01 21357, 2013
ianmcorvidae
by the by
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ianmcorvidae
re: the "improperly quoted value" thing, I think, but
2013-08-01 21359, 2013
ianmcorvidae
other than some other random differences, like ours claims to be readonly, it has an embedded name thing of "generated-stream.vmdk" rather than the real name, uses some different adapter types -- but none of that has to do with actual header formatting
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ruaok
post updated with vb caveat
2013-08-01 21338, 2013
ocharles
bye JIRA
2013-08-01 21359, 2013
ocharles considers now a good time for a tea break
2013-08-01 21336, 2013
ruaok
yeah, thats webalizers's fault.
2013-08-01 21342, 2013
ocharles
wat
2013-08-01 21344, 2013
ruaok grumbles at webalizer
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ianmcorvidae tries cloning the HD to a VDI, maybe that'll randomly work
2013-08-01 21301, 2013
JonnyJD_
webalizer breaks jira?
2013-08-01 21325, 2013
JonnyJD_
reading the logs freezes the machine?
2013-08-01 21350, 2013
ianmcorvidae
it pegs the CPU
2013-08-01 21300, 2013
ianmcorvidae
seems to be the issue, anyway
2013-08-01 21313, 2013
ianmcorvidae
we have huge logs and a complicated webalizer config
2013-08-01 21314, 2013
ianmcorvidae
the two interact poorly :P
2013-08-01 21318, 2013
ianmcorvidae
heh, oops, full disk
2013-08-01 21324, 2013
ianmcorvidae
heh, appears to have worked
2013-08-01 21347, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I mean, and created a 27GB file, but :P
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JonnyJD_
ianmcorvidae: no dynamic disc anymore (so the disc is really that big anyways?)
possibly there's some way to make the VDI less space-intensive though
2013-08-01 21323, 2013
ianmcorvidae
seems to be about 18G of disk actually used, anyway
2013-08-01 21329, 2013
kepstin-work
turn the disk into a raw file image, load it into qemu on linux, use 'fstrim' to free the space, then convert it back :)
2013-08-01 21338, 2013
ianmcorvidae
haha
2013-08-01 21335, 2013
ianmcorvidae
VBoxManage modifyhd seems to have a --compact option, which seems likely to be what's needed
2013-08-01 21345, 2013
ocharles
yea, but that doesn't work with VMWare
2013-08-01 21350, 2013
ocharles
my original script already called that
2013-08-01 21312, 2013
kepstin-work
the --compact option can't help with areas on the fs that contain data that's not referenced, I think?
2013-08-01 21312, 2013
ocharles
(when building the separate DB drive)
2013-08-01 21323, 2013
ianmcorvidae
well, this is using a vdi anyway, since the vmdk that VMWare output fails entirely on vbox
2013-08-01 21327, 2013
ocharles
kepstin-work: not sure about that, probably not
2013-08-01 21329, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I'm mostly just exploring options right now though
2013-08-01 21312, 2013
kepstin-work
"For this operation to be effective, it is required that free space in the guest system first be zeroed out using a suitable software tool." - so, yeah.
2013-08-01 21305, 2013
kepstin-work
but using the raw image format with qemu on linux is nice, because it supports the TRIM operation, which turns into holes in the sparsely allocated file.
2013-08-01 21326, 2013
kepstin-work
assuming a new enough linux kernel to have the 'hole punch' operation.
2013-08-01 21343, 2013
JonnyJD_
ianmcorvidae: you managed to use VBoxManage on the same vmdk that you downloaded?
2013-08-01 21321, 2013
JonnyJD_
I get VBoxManage: error: VMDK: incorrectly quoted value in descriptor when running VBoxManage clonehd
2013-08-01 21341, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I did, yes
2013-08-01 21349, 2013
ianmcorvidae
well, I mean, I copied it to a .bak first and then cloned that
2013-08-01 21358, 2013
ianmcorvidae
but that's not a terribly relevant difference
2013-08-01 21324, 2013
ianmcorvidae
ruaok, ijabz: "recording: Unable to get replication information" when running bin/reindex, something to worry about?
2013-08-01 21332, 2013
ruaok
nope.
2013-08-01 21344, 2013
JonnyJD_
ianmcorvidae: maybe you did something to that vmdk (without knowing). I can't get clonehd to work.
2013-08-01 21301, 2013
ianmcorvidae
possibly
2013-08-01 21313, 2013
JonnyJD_ is md5ing the file again
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ianmcorvidae
my virtualbox did do some editing of the vmdk, but not the one I was using
2013-08-01 21328, 2013
ianmcorvidae
(as in, I blew everything away, did a fresh untar of the ova, then copied to a .bak, which is what I was clonehd'ing)
2013-08-01 21344, 2013
ianmcorvidae is (slowly) getting an md5 to compare with, nevertheless
