#musicbrainz-devel

odd*

yeah, i think that the result of $() is only IFS-split, I don't think it's parsed for quotes or anything.

with the extra 's?

yea

kepstin-work: IFS?

inter-field separator. by default, whitespace.

if you need the quotes parsed, you might have to run the thing through an eval :/

i want it to look like that copy and paste

i don't think i want any parsing

oh, I think I see what it's doing with the quotes

so you want ['-g', '"-package-conf', '/nix/store...', ...]

quoting word-by-word, so when you eval it, the "s are in the right place

no, I want ['-g', '-package-conf /nix/store']

try ` ` instead of $()

it shouldn't be any different...

same

ocharles: yeah, I think you're gonna have to run that through an eval to get the quotes parsed properly :/

eval "ghc-mod list $(stuff here)"

might do it

echo $(echo "a b"); echo $(echo '"a' 'b"'); eval echo $(echo '"a' 'b"')

alright, i'll give that a shot

booya

yuck

heh

kepstin-work: shell-high-5

kill -HIGH5 kepstin-work

SIGHIGH5

next question...

sounds like something that someone needs to write a april-1 rfc about

how can I do $2 $3 $3 $5... ?

$@

basically array splices

alastairp: that includes $1

oh

shift

$@

ok, i'll try that

I think it's shift

yeah, shift will remove the first thing from an array

there might be some fancier array slicing stuff available tho, hmm.

otherwise, I think you can index arrays with {}, or [], or :

nope, no fancy subscripts.

... yeah, looks like using shift and $@ is your best option there

making sure to quote $@ appropriately based on how you want it split :)

so I should save $1 first?

you'd have to, yeah.

ok, cool

it looks like there's no easy way to undo the shift and put it back

i can live with that

yay, all 2000 haskell modules I have installed now show up in Vim omnicompletion :)

ah, "$@". I remember you well

always fun to write shell scripts that end in 'exec /bin/foo "$@"' :)

so if you do "$@", that means $1 goes to foo $1 and $2 goes to foo $2?

because that's pretty much what I want to do

"$@" is basically the same as "$1" "$2" "$3" ...

whereas $@ is unescaped, so if it's 3 things long, and $2 has a space in it, the program it's passed to will get 4 args

yeah, shell quoting is *fun* :/

urgh

unless you're explicitly desiring word splitting, pretty much every variable reference should be used in quotes.

but then, there are cases when the word-splitting is actually desired :)

hmm. I've never tried to set IFS to something other that whitespace

does it work?

alastairp: yeah, but it gets really confusing really fast.

:)

hey, $* is pretty cute

That is, "$*" is equivalent to "$1c$2c...", where c is the first character of the value of the IFS variable.

the tricky bit with playing with IFS is making sure it's only set where you want it, and then unset/reset right afterwards

sometimes you only want it set for a part of a single command, so you end up using subshells and stuff.

but yeah, "The order of expansions is: brace expansion, tilde expansion, parameter, variable and arithmetic expansion and command substitution (done in a left-to-right fashion), word splitting, and pathname expansion."

which is why the word-splitting ran after the command-substitution

although it gets really confusing when quotes are involved :/

I guess the quotes are handled when parsing the command-line, prior to any of the expansions being run

although quotes effect the behaviour of later expansions

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/lenovo-a... i kinda want that monitor

but more importantly i want the damn t440s to come out so i can buy it

my t400 that overheats when you use two cores is not fun anymore :(

hmm, that's... (sunglasses) not cool.

i don't really care about that, i dock it and use much better input devices

i guess it's a minor inconvenience when i'm at home

I use my laptop mostly on the go; if I'm somewhere where I could use good input devices, I have a proper desktop :)

although I do have a decent bluetooth mouse

kepstin-work: well i work from my office, but sometimes (like today) i choose to work from home

so a desktop doesn't really work for me anymore

kepstin-work: !!what?

yeah, so much of my stuff is virtual servers or cloud stuff that it doesn't really matter where I'm working from as long as I have my git checkouts and ssh keys

I was just reading about the guy with the ipad and keyboard again

kepstin-work: i considered that, but then that doesn't work for my commutes

this upcoming summit will probably be the last trip I make with it :)

...

acutally, I've got to hand this to google

"* Please note: KITKAT 4.4 is only weightless when sent into outer space."

they've got a lot of people talking about it

i'm not happy that nestle now have something to do with my phone

(for those who missed it, android 4.4 is codenamed kitkat, in an actual licensing deal with nestle)

...

wtf