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      • kuno
        JonnyJD_: are they percent encoded? (does it break either way?)
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      • JonnyJD_
        kuno: they get encoded correctly
      • 2013-11-15 31921, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        %28 %29
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      • kuno
        Our documentation says: The recommended format is "application-version", where version does not contain a - character.
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      • kuno
        so I think the intent was that the application name is an identifier without any spaces and without much punctuation, but we don't spell that out :)
      • 2013-11-15 31948, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        yes, so using parentheses isn't the first thing to try, but also not really forbidden
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      • JonnyJD_
        I also couldn't find a place in the code where anything is really checked, but I am neither a server nor a perl guru
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      • ocharles
        JonnyJD_: finding anything relating to web service validation is akin to wizardry
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      • ocharles
        so I wouldn't worry
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      • JonnyJD_
        and "(" is the only punctuation I could find that fails so far (still testing more
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      • ocharles
        JonnyJD_: do you get an error message from the web service?
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      • ocharles
        It doesn't look like we validate the ?client query parameter at all
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      • ocharles
        (nor the user agent)
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      • JonnyJD_
        ocharles: nope, just 400 bad request
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      • ocharles
        what request are you making?
      • 2013-11-15 31920, 2013

      • ocharles
        I only looked at POST /ws/2/release
      • 2013-11-15 31931, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        submitting isrcs (recordings it should be)
      • 2013-11-15 31955, 2013

      • ocharles
        no validation there either, that I can see
      • 2013-11-15 31936, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        minus and opening (not closing) parenthesis are the ones not working, semicolon, space, underscore, bracked.. all work
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      • JonnyJD_
        no closing parenthesis also fails
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      • JonnyJD_
        single quotation marks also fail, but that isn't very suprising
      • 2013-11-15 31904, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        I'll open a ticket. Even when documenting that only certain characters are allowed, we should know which and possibly why
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      • JonnyJD_
        created a ticket: MBS-6974
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      • mb-chat-logger
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      • JonnyJD_
        can be tested with musicbrainzngs, I added a small test script
      • 2013-11-15 31910, 2013

      • ruaok
        navap: ping
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      • Totti
        hiy guys
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      • Totti
        i want to add a producer to a release but it cannot find the name in the DB so i cannot add that relationship
      • 2013-11-15 31918, 2013

      • Totti
        what do i need to do?
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      • ruaok
        add the producer as a new artist.
      • 2013-11-15 31928, 2013

      • Totti
        just saw it is not the producer of the pieces but the whole release
      • 2013-11-15 31900, 2013

      • ruaok
        then add a new artist and relate the release to the artist
      • 2013-11-15 31956, 2013

      • Totti
        thx
      • 2013-11-15 31957, 2013

      • Totti
        done
      • 2013-11-15 31909, 2013

      • Totti
        i feel bad giving away all my CDs
      • 2013-11-15 31917, 2013

      • Totti
        there is so much information on the sleeves etc.
      • 2013-11-15 31918, 2013

      • Totti
        inmlays
      • 2013-11-15 31927, 2013

      • Totti
        but im not really willing to enter it all...
      • 2013-11-15 31937, 2013

      • Totti
        ripping and tagging is already some job ;)
      • 2013-11-15 31959, 2013

      • Totti
        is there any way how the info can be deferred from somewhere else?
      • 2013-11-15 31918, 2013

      • ruaok
        maybe take pictures of the backs of the CDs
      • 2013-11-15 31919, 2013

      • ruaok
        ?
      • 2013-11-15 31939, 2013

      • Totti
        and post them among cover art?
      • 2013-11-15 31929, 2013

      • ruaok
        mostly for tagging reference.
      • 2013-11-15 31939, 2013

      • ruaok
        for cover art we'd need a higher quality scan
      • 2013-11-15 31908, 2013

      • Totti
        but where should i post it then?
      • 2013-11-15 31925, 2013

      • Totti
        glad if I can be of service ;)
      • 2013-11-15 31927, 2013

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      • ruaok
        flickr?
      • 2013-11-15 31907, 2013

      • Totti
        dont have that :)
      • 2013-11-15 31918, 2013

      • ruaok
        not hard to sign up. :)
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      • ruaok
        and its free
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      • Totti
        I jsut uploaded pictures for one release
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      • Totti
        from pics that i made with my cell
      • 2013-11-15 31919, 2013

      • Totti
        i thought better than nothing!
      • 2013-11-15 31938, 2013

      • ocharles
        the cover art archive does not discriminate on quality - data > no data
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      • ocharles
        so don't feel you *have* to scan that artwork
      • 2013-11-15 31915, 2013

      • nikki
        there's nothing stopping our editors from voting no though
      • 2013-11-15 31902, 2013

      • Totti
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      • Totti
        of course they could vote no
      • 2013-11-15 31928, 2013

      • Totti
        but i still believe better capturing that info somwhere and not lising it
      • 2013-11-15 31937, 2013

      • ocharles
        i agree
      • 2013-11-15 31944, 2013

      • Totti
        somewhere not losing i meant to write
      • 2013-11-15 31946, 2013

      • Totti
        ok
      • 2013-11-15 31948, 2013

      • Totti
        same page then
      • 2013-11-15 31950, 2013

      • Totti
        good
      • 2013-11-15 31943, 2013

      • nikki
        hm, not too bad
      • 2013-11-15 31908, 2013

      • nikki
        my gut instinct would be to put things on a sheet of white paper though
      • 2013-11-15 31943, 2013

      • nikki
        (although my gut instincts once told me to scan things with a sheet of pink paper behind and after doing it I had no idea why :P)
      • 2013-11-15 31943, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        rolf at sheet of pink paper
      • 2013-11-15 31917, 2013

      • Totti
        haha
      • 2013-11-15 31924, 2013

      • Totti
        you are right
      • 2013-11-15 31928, 2013

      • Totti
        shoudl have used white paper
      • 2013-11-15 31934, 2013

      • Totti
        !
      • 2013-11-15 31904, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        I guess you all know that meme about putting something on a wooden table, taking a picture, scanning the picture, printing it and sending it per snail mail
      • 2013-11-15 31951, 2013

      • Totti
        show it to us
      • 2013-11-15 31953, 2013

      • Totti
        :)
      • 2013-11-15 31911, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
      • 2013-11-15 31951, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        okay, it was a bit different (worse)
      • 2013-11-15 31920, 2013

      • snartal
        Sometimes with pics, you get the light washing out the writing, as the the Medium pic.
      • 2013-11-15 31905, 2013

      • Totti
        ok ok
      • 2013-11-15 31914, 2013

      • Totti
        im not going to redo the pics ;)
      • 2013-11-15 31945, 2013

      • Totti
        :D
      • 2013-11-15 31956, 2013

      • snartal
        lol - just mentioning it, I'm of the camp of some data better than no data.
      • 2013-11-15 31950, 2013

      • snartal
        For cover art, anyway.
      • 2013-11-15 31915, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        yes, me too
      • 2013-11-15 31920, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        and to be clear, taking a picture of something on a wooden table in itself is no WTF, the other steps in the dailyWTF made it one
      • 2013-11-15 31932, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        but "wtf wooden table" is like the short name of that meme
      • 2013-11-15 31950, 2013

      • Totti
        i love the wooden table
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      • Totti
        all my ebay pics are made on a wooden table
      • 2013-11-15 31904, 2013

      • Totti
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      • Totti
        this better?
      • 2013-11-15 31910, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        I would, but I have so much stuff on my tables.. there is no visible wood
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      • Totti
        used a white paper
      • 2013-11-15 31915, 2013

      • Totti
        and dont judge me by the music
      • 2013-11-15 31920, 2013

      • Totti
        this is nearly 20 years ago
      • 2013-11-15 31930, 2013

      • Totti
        when the discman had not even a skipping protection
      • 2013-11-15 31932, 2013

      • Totti
        :D
      • 2013-11-15 31944, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        Totti: MB wouldn't go anywhere if we would judge editors taste in music
      • 2013-11-15 31903, 2013

      • nikki approves of the white paper
      • 2013-11-15 31915, 2013

      • Totti
        haha
      • 2013-11-15 31924, 2013

      • Totti
        but i am sitting here and thinking
      • 2013-11-15 31930, 2013

      • Totti
        wow...this is what i listened to?
      • 2013-11-15 31918, 2013

      • Totti
        nobody here uses what I assume ;)
      • 2013-11-15 31927, 2013

      • JonnyJD_ also has some Tunnel Trance Force stuff somewhere..
      • 2013-11-15 31947, 2013

      • JonnyJD_
        anyways, taking pictures with daylight (without flash) fixes some problems with weird colors and visible flash (I know daylight is gone soon for today in the EU)
      • 2013-11-15 31915, 2013

      • Totti
        guess where i am sitting
      • 2013-11-15 31917, 2013

      • Totti
        in an office
      • 2013-11-15 31921, 2013

      • Totti
        so even if the daylight is gone
      • 2013-11-15 31925, 2013

      • Totti
        i got this bright neon stuff
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      • navap
        ruaok: pong
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      • ruaok
        hey.
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      • ruaok
        I just got done tallying what I needed. :)
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      • ruaok is working on the annual report
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      • navap
        Oh nice :)
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      • ruaok
        5B successful hits in 2012 by my count.
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      • ruaok
        does that jive with your numbers?
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      • Totti
        ? :)
      • 2013-11-15 31903, 2013

      • navap
        Does successful mean you're excluding 4xx and 5xx hits?
      • 2013-11-15 31914, 2013

      • ruaok
        yes. I only counted 200s
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      • navap
        I see 7.1B total hits and 6.8B ws hits, but that's without any filtering
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      • ruaok
        then that sounds about right.
      • 2013-11-15 31949, 2013

      • navap
        Dammit, my webalizer parser has stopped working :(
      • 2013-11-15 31922, 2013

      • ruaok
        wow. our cost per 1M hits dropped to $4.06.
      • 2013-11-15 31943, 2013

      • ruaok
        charging $100 for 1M seems like a good plan. :)
      • 2013-11-15 31931, 2013

      • navap
        heh
      • 2013-11-15 31939, 2013

      • navap
        Webalizer reported 5,001,001,727 2xx hits
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      • ruaok
        5,000,992,658
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      • ruaok
        is that I tallied.
      • 2013-11-15 31902, 2013

      • ruaok
        the difference is noise.
      • 2013-11-15 31904, 2013

      • navap
        Where are you getting your numbers from?
      • 2013-11-15 31916, 2013

      • ruaok
        webalizer.
      • 2013-11-15 31924, 2013

      • navap
        Ah okay
      • 2013-11-15 31927, 2013

      • ruaok
        I just took the 200 summaries for each month.
      • 2013-11-15 31902, 2013

      • navap
        Okay. I was hoping you had some better view of the webalizer data other than the html pages on stats.mb
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      • ruaok
        not really no.
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      • ruaok
        ok, I only have to finish the last two sections, but those are pretty quick. I'll hammer those our on monday:
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        thanks for all your legwork on this, navap.
      • 2013-11-15 31904, 2013

      • ruaok
        ok, enough for now. back later.
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      • snartal
        Nice report.
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