#musicbrainz-devel

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      • warp
        happy new year!
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      • nikki would've missed it entirely if someone hadn't pointed it out to her
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      • warp
        it doesn't really matter
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      • warp
        the only change is now I get to write "copyright 2014" instead of 2013 when writing software :)
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      • nikki
        well some places have lots of fireworks
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      • warp
        there is/was lots of fireworks here in the city.
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      • nikki
        here there was one or two
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      • nikki
        but nothing really noticeable :P
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      • nikki
        hence why I would've missed it
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      • warp
        :)
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      • CallerNo6
        it probably won't surprise anybody that we get a mixture of fireworks and gunfire.
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      • derwin
        best fireworks in oakland are located at <random_intersection>
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      • ianmcorvidae
        a bit of silly fun you fulks might enjoy: http://promo.musicradio.com/games/pick-a-side/com… :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        folks, even
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      • derwin
        fulk you!
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      • uk
        I wonder if we actually should give containing areas on the Browse Areas page (as a comment on MBS-6587 asks for).
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      • mb-chat-logger
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      • uk
        (In case development is on-topic here today. ;-))
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      • ianmcorvidae
        no, probably not
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      • ianmcorvidae
        browse pages are pretty much just for search engines
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      • ianmcorvidae
        we shouldn't even link to them as prominently as we do :P
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      • uk
        I thought so.
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      • uk
        We don't even say "<release group> by <artist>".
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      • nikki
        somewhere I had some "code" that was basically just nuking half of the browse code to simplify it
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      • derwin
        we had to destroy the code to refactor it
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      • nikki
        I wasn't really refactoring it
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      • nikki
        I was literally just removing stuff :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        those pages would probably benefit from being unstyled <ul>s of links instead of what they are
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      • ianmcorvidae
        so people stopped confusing them for a useful feature
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      • ianmcorvidae
        really, the way to Do It Right would be for us to start generating sitemaps
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      • nikki
        what I did was basically just remove all the filtering so it was just a paginated list
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      • ianmcorvidae
        that would also let us remove all the slightly insane page_index stuff
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      • nikki
        and I'd like something like my browseartists page which makes me swear at the webservice every time I have the stupid idea of trying to improve it
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      • nikki
        except in the server so I don't have to swear at the webservice :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh
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      • nikki wonders how to make history work properly with screen in this terminal
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      • uk
        I can't figure out how load_all in lib/MusicBrainz/Server/Data/Edit.pm works
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      • uk
        or how to change it so that it loads area containments.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it won't be able to, I don't think, it generally only works with $c->model('Whatever')->load
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      • ianmcorvidae
        you can load it separately though, I think, not that I remember where
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      • uk
        hmm.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        anyway, the way it works is it uses the 'foreign_keys' definition which specifies which things to load with get_by_id (and their IDs) and then what things to load afterwards for each thing with ->load
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      • uk
        OK, so it is possible to do the loading from load_all after all.
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      • uk
        Not sure if it's optimal, though; but that's perhaps a question for review.
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      • uk
        That's 12 lines of code (22 if counting templates) that took 4 hours. Great ratio. ;-)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        fewer lines is better anyway :P
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      • reosarevok
        huh. Mineo, how did http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/PICARD-199 get "fixed"?
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      • reosarevok
        (I don't agree there's nothing to fix there anyway, but I can't see a PR link either in the comments and I'm wondering what the "fix" is)
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      • Mineo
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      • reosarevok shakes his head
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      • reosarevok
        Dumb, but whatever
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      • reosarevok
        At least hopefully people won't whine anymore
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      • reosarevok adds a comment with the link to the ticket then
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      • reosarevok
        (please always do that ;) )
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      • Mineo
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      • reosarevok
        heh, ok
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      • reosarevok
        It's just been open for forever then while people argued around it
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      • reosarevok
        Sorry! :)
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      • reosarevok
        Well, won't hurt to have it clearly at the bottom I guess, heh :)
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      • Mineo
        yeah, I can see how one would not immediately find the link in the long stream of comments
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      • reosarevok
        I do wonder whether just changing the name to Compilation (iTunes) wouldn't have been enough, but
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      • reosarevok shrugs
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      • Mineo stopped following the discussion after a while because he neither uses %compilation% nor any software that does something based on that tag
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I don't really use it either, but I got very annoyed with the people ignoring explanations and being like "it should be marked if it's a compilation in MB" so it irritates me in general now :D
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      • zas
        Happy New Year MB team ;)
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      • ocharles
        happy new year, zas :)
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      • zas
        Thank you, ocharles :)
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      • nikki
        ocharles: since you're around, the cover art thingy isn't working
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      • nikki
        maybe 'cause of the switch switch
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      • ocharles
        which thingy?
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      • ocharles
        the indexer?
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      • ocharles
        I restarted both of those services
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      • ocharles
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      • uk
        nikki: Since you're around :), https://bitbucket.org/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serv… is waiting for your input.
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      • nikki
        for some values of around :P
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      • nikki is somewhat busy arguing with amazon's webservices
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      • uk
        Better some than none. :)
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      • nikki
        heh "Now showing the past undefined undefined until undefined undefined ago"
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      • ocharles
        yea, it always does that on the dashboard :)
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      • ocharles
        yay JavaScript
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      • gaurav_iiit
        Hello I am new here
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      • gaurav_iiit
        Can anyone help me around ?
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      • uk
        What's your question?
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      • gaurav_iiit
        I am looking for new projects to work on in my field , and technologies and projects in metabrainz foundation matches my field , I wanted to know about any ongoing project ?
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      • uk
        Well, MB is always adding new features etc.
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      • uk
        A fellow student of yours also asked recently, I think.
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      • gaurav_iiit
        Thats good , can you provide me with the page with the ongoing features or updates in the projects
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      • gaurav_iiit
        So that i can look on any bugs or ongoing features being developed
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      • uk
        gaurav_iiit: Tickets for bugs, feature requests etc. are collected on http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/
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      • gaurav_iiit
        Thanks :)
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      • uk
        Leftmost: Would you mind me taking over MBS-6010/MBS-6011 (Unicode normalization)?
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      • mb-chat-logger
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      • CallerNo6
        oh, neat, I'd like to follow along to see how that works
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      • nikki
        normalisation?
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      • CallerNo6
        the code underlying it
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      • MBChatLogger_1
        is logging
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      • kornbluth.freenode.net
        Users on #musicbrainz-devel: alastairp Cliff` darklow jruzz Muz_ mat_
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      • CallerNo6
        ianmcorvidae says "wire library into existing code" as if it's not magic. but it is. all of it.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        well, other than the 'use Unicode::Normalize qw( NFC )' (or so) nikki already explained the entirety of it :P
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      • MBChatLogger
        is logging
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      • hubbard.freenode.net
        Users on #musicbrainz-devel: MBChatLogger murdos UmkaDK SultS uk Nyanko-sensei voiceinsideyou2 CallerNo6 rvedotrc JonnyJD_ sampsyo MightyJay Scuttle ocharles HSOWA ianmcorvidae MiX-MaN chrisirc D4RK-PH0ENiX nikki navap luks_ derwin Hadora mb-chat-logger djinni` Leftmost adhawkins njh Mineo Jormangeud larsen bitmap Sebastinas mat_ Muz_ jruzz Cliff` alastairp leonardo DWSR demosdemon ManiacTwister Kovensky intgr basic` teuf adamcik bricas night199uk warp _flow_
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      • uk
        Hmmm. I get the impression that the Knockout rendering of tracklists on sandboxes somehow uses Artist Credits from the live site.