Although it worries me that I still have not received an email confirmation from the airline. I have a scary feeling I typed my email address in wrong
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ianmcorvidae
chirlu`: had forgotten about it entirely, doing it now
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ianmcorvidae
too much geordi makes Ian's brain fuzzy :)
2014-01-21 02118, 2014
chirlu`
Oh, good that I asked then. :)
2014-01-21 02137, 2014
nikki
ianmcorvidae: did you revert that thing that made some edits ISE?
2014-01-21 02142, 2014
nikki
or did you merge bitmap's fix?
2014-01-21 02109, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I did not. I'll merge bitmap's fix, since it's a minor thing
2014-01-21 02155, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I remembered it on the walk I was just taking, heh, so it at least would have still happened
2014-01-21 02101, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I should stop doing them after midnight UTC though :P
2014-01-21 02156, 2014
chirlu`
chirlu` has changed the topic to: Greenhouse week | Agenda: (empty)
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ianmcorvidae
okay, I guess I should review and merge things :P
2014-01-21 02142, 2014
mb-chat-logger
New post: blog: Server update, 2014-01-20 <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2014/01/21/server-update-2014-01-20/>
2014-01-21 02118, 2014
Freso
chirlu`: Aw. I had wanted to change it to "Chilli week" :p
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ianmcorvidae
:P
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chirlu`
Freso: feel free. :)
2014-01-21 02107, 2014
chirlu`
But isn't it Chili?
2014-01-21 02120, 2014
Freso
Shh.
2014-01-21 02120, 2014
nikki
it's regional
2014-01-21 02137, 2014
Freso
I also can't be bothered right now. I should be going to bed instead.
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chirlu`
chirlu` has changed the topic to: Chilli week | Agenda: (empty)
2014-01-21 02119, 2014
Freso
:)
2014-01-21 02140, 2014
CallerNo6
question: I've seen (without even really looking for it) two people recently asking for help because they'd missed the trailing dot in "cpanm --installdeps --notest ."
2014-01-21 02123, 2014
CallerNo6
So it makes sense to me to add something like "*note:* don't forget the trailing dot" in install.md
2014-01-21 02150, 2014
nikki
are you going to do a pull request for it? :D
2014-01-21 02157, 2014
CallerNo6
but... I feel silly making a six workd pull request
2014-01-21 02102, 2014
CallerNo6
er, "word"
2014-01-21 02107, 2014
bitmap
nah, that wouldn't be silly
2014-01-21 02108, 2014
nikki
I've made smaller patches than that
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ianmcorvidae
heh
2014-01-21 02112, 2014
ianmcorvidae
done it for smaller, yeah
2014-01-21 02124, 2014
ianmcorvidae
if you get it up quickly, I'm reviewing now and then merging, so :)
2014-01-21 02125, 2014
nikki
I'm sure we've had several one character ones
2014-01-21 02150, 2014
CallerNo6
okey dokey
2014-01-21 02106, 2014
ianmcorvidae
fixing regexes, those are usually stupidly little :P
2014-01-21 02136, 2014
CallerNo6
well, but important. six words in the docs somehow feels less so.
2014-01-21 02138, 2014
bitmap
good docs are important :)
2014-01-21 02126, 2014
ianmcorvidae
if for no other reason than if someone doesn't need to ask a question in here, it gives us more time for fixing regexes ;)
2014-01-21 02102, 2014
CallerNo6
then I'd better shut up and do it
2014-01-21 02122, 2014
ianmcorvidae
(said with that particular smiley because generally talking is not actually a problem :P)
2014-01-21 02121, 2014
nikki
I wish we'd use our own damn permanent ids internally...
2014-01-21 02130, 2014
ianmcorvidae
heh
2014-01-21 02108, 2014
Freso
CallerNo6: I've sometime done one letter/character corrections in PRs for readmes etc.
2014-01-21 02106, 2014
CallerNo6
okay, the flip side. how big is too big? Within a single file like 'install' or 'readme', how many things can/should I change in 1 PR?
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ianmcorvidae
for that, probably too big is when thematically unrelated changes start running together
2014-01-21 02102, 2014
ianmcorvidae
(well, substantially so)
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Freso
+1
2014-01-21 02118, 2014
CallerNo6
I guess I'll get a feel for it eventuall.
2014-01-21 02120, 2014
CallerNo6
y.
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ianmcorvidae
in general, for documentation, it's pretty hard to get too big
2014-01-21 02140, 2014
ianmcorvidae
(I mean, for a change. the docs themselves can be too wordy)
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ianmcorvidae
chirlu`: still around? I'd like to get the reorder UI patch in, but I feel like I'm missing something obvious.
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ianmcorvidae
I guess not :P
2014-01-21 02126, 2014
CallerNo6
also on the subject of docs, any pointers to especially well-done docs would be appreciated :-) (well, how-to or how-not-to would be equally good)
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ianmcorvidae
merginnnnng
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chirlu`
ianmcorvidae: You really managed to miss me exactly. :)
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ianmcorvidae
yeah, I was literally typing it as you left XD
2014-01-21 02103, 2014
chirlu`
I just commented on the pull request.
2014-01-21 02108, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah, I saw
2014-01-21 02134, 2014
ianmcorvidae
unlike you, it sort of makes sense for me to get notifications for everything that happens on bitbucket, so I have the notifications on :)
2014-01-21 02125, 2014
chirlu`
It would be OK to get combined notifications for everything I haven’t looked at after X hours, but not for every single change.
2014-01-21 02135, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2014-01-21 02143, 2014
ianmcorvidae
suppose you could make them a ticket, but they might already know *shrugs*
2014-01-21 02113, 2014
chirlu`
Perhaps it is fixed in current JIRA? :) Haven’t checked, though.
2014-01-21 02153, 2014
chirlu`
I now look at the "merged" tab occasionally.
2014-01-21 02140, 2014
nikki
current jira? I thought you were talking about bitbucket
2014-01-21 02148, 2014
chirlu`
Oh yes, somewhat confused.
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chirlu`
Then I could really open a ticket …
2014-01-21 02124, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I wonder if they ever fixed that ticket I made for them. I haven't ever checked
2014-01-21 02155, 2014
ianmcorvidae
(they had a weird thing where you could make the comment field jump mid-submission and end up with an inconsistent local state)
2014-01-21 02111, 2014
chirlu`
Hm, they have approximately as many open tickets as MBS.
2014-01-21 02118, 2014
chirlu`
“Debounce email notifications (BB-9917)” (Support staff writes “I'm pretty sure there's already another ticket about this, but I was unable to find it.”)
I know, but it could understand the context better. ;-)
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zas
i noticed last server update adds new cover art types (ie. liner), documentation at http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Cover_Art/Types wasn't updated, i would be _very_ nice to have those available from server as xml or json so we can easily update Picard (which needs those types for cover art selection)
2014-01-21 02151, 2014
zas
the same goes for Packaging, more are available now
only because ian did multiple things in a short period of time though
2014-01-21 02123, 2014
reosarevok
zas: it didn't appear with it, it appeared later at night when they were inserted in the database
2014-01-21 02136, 2014
reosarevok
(I just happened to remember the same day, that's all, heh)
2014-01-21 02150, 2014
reosarevok
Good point about the docs though
2014-01-21 02151, 2014
reosarevok
:)
2014-01-21 02111, 2014
reosarevok forgot we had them
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reosarevok
(this should be on the server not the wiki, too, but meh)
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zas
imho, we should have each list with key, english label, optional english short description, optional english long description (or the like) at one place, and provide them via webservice for apps (and also online documentation which can be generated from that)
2014-01-21 02119, 2014
zas
i think mostly about countries, languages, scripts, packaging types, cover art types, etc...
2014-01-21 02134, 2014
zas
it is a must, because apps like Picard have their own list for now, which are eventually generated (ie. countries after PICARD-205), but still may be always out-of-sync (releases of Picard vs update of those lists), with a webservice app can use cached info (offline/no change) and refresh it when needed
btw, i just added a release which didn't fit in any packaging type, but it is still seen (sometimes): book-like with digipak-like trays (this one is a long box with 4 CDs and non-detachable booklet in the middle)
2014-01-21 02124, 2014
reosarevok
heh
2014-01-21 02133, 2014
reosarevok
A lot of releases don't fit any packaging type
2014-01-21 02152, 2014
reosarevok
But since packaging type is pretty much absolutely useless anyway, I don't really worry too much about it :p
2014-01-21 02116, 2014
reosarevok
(more types can always be proposed though and hopefully next time we won't forget to add them for 6 months :p)
2014-01-21 02152, 2014
SultS
well, I guess if picard could use packaging info, they would be slightly more useful :)
2014-01-21 02109, 2014
nikki
how would it use it?
2014-01-21 02118, 2014
SultS
just for tags
2014-01-21 02127, 2014
reosarevok
What would that be useful for?
2014-01-21 02135, 2014
reosarevok
If you have files, who cares :p
2014-01-21 02142, 2014
SultS
more complete data in your files, ofc :)
2014-01-21 02151, 2014
reosarevok
"Oh, these files I ripped totally came from a digipak!"
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SultS
I said “slightly” ;)
2014-01-21 02136, 2014
zas
packaging type is useful to differentiate some releases, sometimes this is the sole difference (same label,catalog number, barcode, etc... but digipak vs jewel case ie)
2014-01-21 02114, 2014
reosarevok
Sure, but for me that's a strange enough case that a disambiguation comment would happily suffice, and not require people to add yet more pointless info for 99% of the releases
