dear gods of the transclusion olymp, can one of you transclude a new version of http://beta.musicbrainz.org/doc/Development ? the only difference between the current and the wiki version are the link to RDF and the CAA api
kepstin-laptop notes that there's an "edit" link on http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Development :)
2014-02-14 04522, 2014
kepstin-laptop
but I'm not sure where that should go, hmm.
2014-02-14 04511, 2014
kepstin-laptop
... what do you mean? that 'RDF' link is working fine
2014-02-14 04512, 2014
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2014-02-14 04543, 2014
jesus2099
you just edited it maybe ? or someone ? :)
2014-02-14 04506, 2014
jesus2099
kepstin-laptop: ↗
2014-02-14 04524, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I didn't touch it.
2014-02-14 04543, 2014
jesus2099
and no one did… maybe i was drunk
2014-02-14 04543, 2014
ruaok
May 9th will be the 10th (!) anniversary of the Live Data Feed.
2014-02-14 04536, 2014
ruaok
that will be more than 85,000 replication packets.
2014-02-14 04537, 2014
ruaok
wow.
2014-02-14 04554, 2014
jesus2099
how often the dumps ? twice a week ?
2014-02-14 04507, 2014
ruaok
yeah.
2014-02-14 04514, 2014
ruaok
but those have been happening even longer.
2014-02-14 04518, 2014
ruaok
2000 I think.
2014-02-14 04553, 2014
jesus2099
I’ve downloaded the editor_sanitised and… :/ there is a “JesusAnus” in there
2014-02-14 04547, 2014
jesus2099
i take the rsik to ask a stupid questoin… in those dumps, i see no table definition… how is it supposed to be imported in a DB ? there are some CREATE TABLE sql files somewhere ? i guess so… but haven’t seen them
2014-02-14 04539, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the dumps are not sql; they need to be imported with special scripts
2014-02-14 04500, 2014
kepstin-laptop
the scripts create the database using the standard musicbrainz server schema before importing
2014-02-14 04515, 2014
jesus2099
ah… those initDB.pl i saw somehwerE ?
2014-02-14 04556, 2014
jesus2099
i thought this was some postgresql command and wondered how to run that on my windows install… but now it makes more sense…
2014-02-14 04510, 2014
jesus2099
maybe those virtual machine downloads are what’s done for the kind of me
2014-02-14 04551, 2014
kepstin-laptop
yeah, trying to do this on a windows machine would be pretty painful :)
2014-02-14 04512, 2014
jesus2099
yes ?
2014-02-14 04537, 2014
jesus2099
a vm is a vm, whatever the PC, no ? … but hmm VM doesn’t seem to be what i want btw
2014-02-14 04507, 2014
kepstin-laptop
if what you want is a pre-setup environment with the database and script ready to import a dump, then the VM is what you want
2014-02-14 04543, 2014
jesus2099
i want to “see” the MB DB in that pgAdmin Ⅲ thing i just installed here… :)
2014-02-14 04551, 2014
jesus2099
and make some SQL requests
2014-02-14 04507, 2014
jesus2099
i thnik i have to look at the initDB.pl maybe……
2014-02-14 04521, 2014
kepstin-laptop
you could reconfigure the postgres server on the VM to allow external connections, then tell pgadmin to connect to it
2014-02-14 04524, 2014
jesus2099
… or was it initDB.py ? whatever…
2014-02-14 04553, 2014
jesus2099
kepstin-laptop: sounds good too
2014-02-14 04558, 2014
kepstin-laptop
If you just want to do the DB setup and import without dealing with perl and the musicbrainz server, you could try luks' "mbslave" stuff: https://bitbucket.org/lalinsky/mbslave
2014-02-14 04517, 2014
jesus2099
i prefer stop trying, i feel a little … “vertige” don’t know how to translate
2014-02-14 04527, 2014
jesus2099
dizzy
2014-02-14 04503, 2014
jesus2099
thanks :)
2014-02-14 04530, 2014
JonnyJD
kepstin-laptop, jesus2099: the RDF link is an internal wiki link, isn't it? The wiki pages go 404 from time to time temporarily (thats a known bug/problem)
2014-02-14 04542, 2014
JonnyJD
something with a timeout
2014-02-14 04502, 2014
kepstin-laptop
ah, an issue with the transclusion?
2014-02-14 04508, 2014
jesus2099
ah ok :)
2014-02-14 04526, 2014
JonnyJD
not sure if with the actual transclusion, but I have it quite often that I try to go to a /doc page and it gives me a 404 and it works when I try again
2014-02-14 04527, 2014
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JonnyJD
hm, I can't find a ticket for that. But I remember people being aware of this.
2014-02-14 04555, 2014
JonnyJD
nikki: do you remember something like that or are even able to find the ticket?
2014-02-14 04526, 2014
JonnyJD
I only find lots of closed "page not found" tickets, (closed since it is always a temporary issue)
thx nikki (don't remember when I had it last time, so I am not re-opening it now)
2014-02-14 04558, 2014
jesus2099
JonnyJD: while you’re here… you know i have at home a cool CD drive with which both isrcsubmit.exe and mediatools. and your isrcsubmit.py work but i had at work some serious isrcsubmit.exe slide down bugs… now at work i have a new PC and it’s the opposite… at least now i never have slide down bugs in isrcsubmit.exe but mediatools.exe is almost 98% always showing empty results — maybe because of acces rights i
2014-02-14 04553, 2014
JonnyJD
jesus2099: that is somewhat expected. I also have one drive where the slide down bug never occurs and one where certain release do have this effect
2014-02-14 04504, 2014
JonnyJD
so "some drivers are better than others"
2014-02-14 04526, 2014
jesus2099
yes that’s for sure… slim CD drives seem less precise for instance
2014-02-14 04532, 2014
jesus2099
seem crap i mean
2014-02-14 04549, 2014
JonnyJD
and yes, some drive/CD combination makes some of these "raw" tools fail. That is the reason I didn't release raw reading in libdiscid yet: there are some weird regressions with raw reading
2014-02-14 04555, 2014
jesus2099
or it’s more realted with NONAME stuff or seomthing :)
2014-02-14 04527, 2014
JonnyJD
well, cd writers seem to be better than non-writers. but that is only my personal experience based on like 4 drives
2014-02-14 04519, 2014
jesus2099
lite-on is cool, nec is cool. this is mine
2014-02-14 04542, 2014
jesus2099
(i only have writers)
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JonnyJD
the "optimal solution" would be to detect if a drive gives trash results with raw reading and use the normal method then
2014-02-14 04535, 2014
JonnyJD
however, I didn't find a way to reliably detect trash results yet. I didn't fall back to try and read the disc again with the other method when no ISRCs are found (since that would always be 2 reads if the disc doesn't have ISRCs).
2014-02-14 04552, 2014
JonnyJD
and empty ISRCs is not the only thing that can happen with raw reading
