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bitmap
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dufferzafar
why do I have to install VC++, to compile C Extensions...
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dufferzafar
can't I just get those extension from someone else
2014-02-17 04823, 2014
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dufferzafar
and go by having fun in python (just a random though) ...
2014-02-17 04859, 2014
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dufferzafar
I mean, I'm guessing that most of the codebase must be python, right?
2014-02-17 04802, 2014
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luks
you can copy the dlls from the picard installer
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bitmap
iirc the C extension is necessary for string comparisons
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luks
yep, copy that .pyd to picard/utils (I think that's how it's called) and it should work
2014-02-17 04800, 2014
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luks
then you just need plain python with pyqt4 and mutagen installed
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dufferzafar
wooohoooo
2014-02-17 04855, 2014
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dufferzafar
I am actually on a capped bandwidth connection, so downloading huge stuff is not my game :'(
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luks
you will not be able to build an installer using that, but you should be fine just running picard
2014-02-17 04841, 2014
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dufferzafar
what do these .pyd files contain? I mean, code specific to which part of picard?
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luks
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luks
there used to be more of them, but we have only one C extension now
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luks
it's a code to compare two strings for similarity
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dufferzafar
yeah, I read about it some time ago (the wiki page actually)
2014-02-17 04849, 2014
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dufferzafar
got only half of it..
2014-02-17 04823, 2014
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dufferzafar
why in C? this could've been just as easily implemented in python?
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dufferzafar
speed?
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luks
yes, speed
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luks
it could be implemented in python as a backup, but there is a very large speed difference
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dufferzafar
picard must be using this algo, to compute differences between the tags in file and tags on db, right?
2014-02-17 04809, 2014
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luks
yes
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luks
I actually considered adding a backup python code for the algorithm, so that it can run without any compiling for development purposes
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luks
it's not hard, but I never felt motivated enough :)
2014-02-17 04821, 2014
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dufferzafar
it's just an algorithm, the c code could be easily converted to python (if I'm not wrong).
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luks
yes, it is
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luks
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dufferzafar
sweet!
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luks
not sure if there aren't some extra tweeks in the C version, but it doesn't matter much
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dufferzafar
yeah, we could use the python version for dev purposes..
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dufferzafar
and then deploy with the C version
2014-02-17 04832, 2014
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dufferzafar
umm... I'm not sure if this is a bug, but I'm unable to resize the treeview on the right in the Options pane on picard.
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luks
that's a kind of bug
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luks
if you resize the whole window it will work
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dufferzafar
yeah, odd...
2014-02-17 04829, 2014
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dufferzafar
bug with Qt or something?
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luks
the right part got too big and it's blocking the left one to resize
2014-02-17 04809, 2014
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luks
we should see what needs to be so wide in some of the right side panels
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bitmap
I think zas looked into that and found it was the checkboxes
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bitmap
or the checkbox labels. something like that
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bitmap
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dufferzafar
is there a designer available for designing GUIs in PyQt?
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luks
yes, you can use the standard Qt tools
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luks
I'm not sure if that's installed directly with PyQt
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dufferzafar
I've not worked with qt honestly..
2014-02-17 04818, 2014
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luks
I think that when installing PyQt, it asks you whether to install the Qt Designer
2014-02-17 04842, 2014
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luks
there are some .ui files in the picard repo
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luks
and there is a function in setup.py to convert them to Python code
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luks
all the options are done with .ui files
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dufferzafar
so, first I use the designer and create .ui files
2014-02-17 04819, 2014
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dufferzafar
and then convert them to py code?
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luks
yep
2014-02-17 04829, 2014
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dufferzafar
will we be moving to pyqt5 ?
2014-02-17 04808, 2014
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luks
who knows :)
2014-02-17 04831, 2014
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dufferzafar
I don't see any ROADMAP file in th repo, what are some future updates?
2014-02-17 04842, 2014
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dufferzafar
apart from fixing bugs, obviously?
2014-02-17 04807, 2014
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bitmap
heh, the roadmap is basically "whatever people submit patches for"
2014-02-17 04827, 2014
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dufferzafar
ha ha !
2014-02-17 04834, 2014
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dufferzafar
you could steal some functionality from another tool I use: MP3Tag..
2014-02-17 04842, 2014
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luks
picard is not a very active project
2014-02-17 04857, 2014
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luks
zas recently brought some life to it, but apart from that it's mostly just bug fixes
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luks
if even those
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dufferzafar
sounds depressing..
2014-02-17 04812, 2014
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reosarevok
heh
2014-02-17 04820, 2014
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reosarevok
Well, it is a project that works quite nicely
2014-02-17 04843, 2014
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reosarevok
So it's not as bad as it sounds
2014-02-17 04840, 2014
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dufferzafar
is there a command I can use in a picard pulgin to send the output to log, something akin to console.log() ?
2014-02-17 04825, 2014
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bitmap
iirc 'from picard import log' and then 'log.debug("foo")'
2014-02-17 04859, 2014
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dufferzafar
lemme check
2014-02-17 04801, 2014
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dufferzafar
also, why does picard create those .pyo files per plugin?
2014-02-17 04815, 2014
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dufferzafar
I don't think it worked...
2014-02-17 04835, 2014
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dufferzafar
when is a plugin code exectued?
2014-02-17 04854, 2014
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dufferzafar
once I add a song? when I do a lookup?
2014-02-17 04803, 2014
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dufferzafar
or when I save the correct tags?
2014-02-17 04827, 2014
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bitmap
depending on what the metadata processor is registered for, it'll execute when the metadata is loaded (i.e. downloaded from the MB web service)
2014-02-17 04816, 2014
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ijabz
Could anyone tell me what prompted Picard to change how Release Status and Type are stored in Vorbis comments
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ijabz
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ijabz
Only just found about this
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chirlu`
ruaok: It's 20:03 UTC?
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warp
indeed!
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bitmap
ijabz: I don't think they were ever saved as *_ALBUMSTATUS or *_ALBUMTYPE, only apev2 seems to use those variables
2014-02-17 04809, 2014
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bitmap
so possibly the wiki page was just always wrong
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reosarevok
So, while ruaok arrives
2014-02-17 04843, 2014
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reosarevok
Anyone opposed to just dropping RDFa? :p
2014-02-17 04832, 2014
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warp is not opposed.
2014-02-17 04821, 2014
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chirlu` doesn’t know enough to have a well-founded opinion.
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bitmap is strongly in favor
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reosarevok
So am I
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reosarevok gets a lift home, bbiab too
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ruaok saunters in
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ruaok
whoops.
2014-02-17 04815, 2014
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ruaok
sorry everyone.
2014-02-17 04826, 2014
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warp
timezones?
2014-02-17 04829, 2014
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ruaok
I got carried away. With:
2014-02-17 04839, 2014
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ruaok
1) Flossing my pet hippo
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ruaok
2) Cooking dinner
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ruaok
3) Caring for mother theresa.
2014-02-17 04857, 2014
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ruaok
Which one was it?
2014-02-17 04805, 2014
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nikki
1
2014-02-17 04826, 2014
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bitmap
1 & 3 simultaneously
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ruaok snickers
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reosarevok
Your pet hippo is called Mother Theresa?
2014-02-17 04811, 2014
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reosarevok
That's not respectful, ruaok
2014-02-17 04813, 2014
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reosarevok
Tsk!
2014-02-17 04817, 2014
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reosarevok
Poor hippo
2014-02-17 04821, 2014
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ruaok
lol. :)
2014-02-17 04847, 2014
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nikki
we decided in your absense to remove rdfa, hopefully that's what you were planning to say :P
2014-02-17 04856, 2014
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reosarevok
Indeed
2014-02-17 04806, 2014
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ruaok
well, yea.
2014-02-17 04813, 2014
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reosarevok read it as "in your adsense"
2014-02-17 04821, 2014
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ruaok
I was going to throw out the suggestion that we "disable" it somehow and see who screams.
2014-02-17 04831, 2014
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reosarevok
Proposal accepted
2014-02-17 04833, 2014
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nikki
don't we have a disable switch for it anyway?
2014-02-17 04833, 2014
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bitmap
I can alert all the userscript authors, at least
2014-02-17 04833, 2014
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reosarevok
Next!
2014-02-17 04801, 2014
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ruaok
I wonder if there should be one final blog post about it.
2014-02-17 04812, 2014
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warp
I think it does deserve a blog post with a "we're going to disable it in X weeks" warning.
2014-02-17 04814, 2014
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reosarevok
Sure, why not
2014-02-17 04818, 2014
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nikki
we could disable it today while we work on nuking it all :P
2014-02-17 04822, 2014
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reosarevok
"We're going to disable this as soon as we can remove it all"
2014-02-17 04844, 2014
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reosarevok
"Stop using it fast, if you're using it (and your fault for not telling us earlier)"
2014-02-17 04848, 2014
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nikki
to be honest, we posted months ago and nobody was willing to admit to using it
2014-02-17 04806, 2014
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nikki
if they're going to miss it, they should've spoken up sooner
2014-02-17 04835, 2014
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ruaok
yeah.
