#musicbrainz-devel

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      • zas
        nikki: i want to add a city to MB area, but it doesn't work for me -> http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2400416
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      • Gentlecat
        ok, avatars done. now styling
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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: you want color scheme like on musicbrainz, right?
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      • ruaok
        duh. :)
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      • Gentlecat
        let's see what we can do here
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      • nikki
        ruaok: I'm around now
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      • ruaok
        moin. I haven't the foggiest why I pinged you. :)
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      • nikki
        heh, that works for me :P
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      • Gentlecat
        navap: are you compiling .less files or just using client-side script?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        you want to have them precompiled for any sort of production deployment...
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      • nikki
        I dunno about navap specifically, for but musicbrainz-server we compile them, but there's some setting which will do it client-side for dev stuff... I still compile them though because we have a whole load of files and it's really slow to load otherwise
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      • Gentlecat
        alright, thanks
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      • navap
        Thoughts on the top nav menu? http://navap.mbsandbox.org/ (make sure to log in)
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      • navap
        I want to remove some of the items from the user drop down, but I feel like there's be resistance...
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      • navap
        Also I suppose the search box toggle is a bit useless. Might as well just always show it
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      • warp
        navap: editing seems so far away
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      • navap
        Well it shows up only when you're logged in
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      • navap
        So after clicking log in on the top right you'll see another menu on the top right
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      • warp
        navap: I mean that I expect user settings all the way to the right, and more commonly used things (like search and editing) should be in the middle or left.
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      • navap
        It just seems weird to me that we've been injecting an editing menu into the middle of the existing nav bar
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      • navap
        And tacking it onto the end after contact also is a bit weird to me
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      • warp
        sure, but it shouldn't be harder to reach than the user menu, the user menu contains stuff I never use.
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      • warp
        (search also should be to the left of the user menu)
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      • nikki finds it weird that we hide the links for editing, so first you have to click links to log in, then you have to click links to load the page you intended to go to, instead of just clicking a link to where you want to go and being asked to log in and then taken straight back to where you want to go :P
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      • nikki
        (not that I've loaded that page yet)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        it seems kind of strange that links showing your edits aren't under the editing menu
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      • warp
        I'd be in favour of always showing the edit menu, yes. that would make more obvious to visitors that anyone can edit, and you don't have to be part of a privileged group.
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      • navap
        hm
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      • kepstin-laptop assumes that the styling on edit list pages is simply incomplete so far.
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      • hawke1
        edit→create account? ;-)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm. maybe show all the edit links, but have them redirect to a login/sign up page
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      • navap
        kepstin-laptop: Correct :)
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      • hawke1
        warp: Do you never use 'edits for subscribed entities'?
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      • warp
        hawke1: no
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      • hawke1
        that’s probably my most common menu option.
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      • warp
        hawke1: MB sends me emails for those.
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      • hawke1
        MB sends me crappy, uninformative emails for those. :-/
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      • kepstin-laptop
        it's really annoying that there's no search box :/
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      • navap
        kepstin-laptop: refresh
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      • kepstin-laptop
        ooh, a search box :)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I take it that the sidebar being stuck below the content on most pages is also a temporary thing pending a redesign to put the data elsewhere?
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      • navap
        Yes
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      • hawke1
        I would have no objections to 'edits for my subscribed entities' being under 'editing' though
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      • navap
        There's a crapton of stuff under editing :/
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      • warp
        perhaps seperate editing and voting?
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      • navap
        Especially if you're an admin
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      • warp
        'edits for my subscribed entities' should be in the same menu as 'vote on edits' because that's why you would want to see those subscription edits.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        under the user menu, you'd normally only expect things that directly affect your personal user account
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      • kepstin-laptop
        so seeing edits that other people made doesn't fit
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      • hawke1
        'reports' doesn't seem to fit under editing…
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      • warp back to work.
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      • hawke1
        I mean, I get why it's there kinda…but…
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      • kepstin-laptop
        reports kind of does, since the reports are all editing tools
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      • kepstin-laptop
        or rather tools to find things that need editing
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      • Gentlecat
        navap: you didn't optimize navbar for small devices yet, right?
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      • hawke1
        kepstin: yeah, but that seems not in line with all the editing→'add xxx' stuff.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        yeah, navbar appears completely unusable on small devices. all the menus disappear :)
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      • navap
        Gentlecat: It's not done, but you should see a mobile version of the navbar
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      • hawke1
        It’s like those are direct 'edit' things, while the other stuff is more related to reviewing our present data
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      • navap
        kepstin-laptop: huh?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        normally in bootstrap you'd have an "open menu" button on the right, but it's not showing for me...
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      • hawke1
        Ooh, 'contribute'
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      • Gentlecat
        drop-down menus aren't being displayed properly there
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      • kepstin-laptop
        ooh, I made the window too small :)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        there appears to be a minimum width...
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      • nikki
        the "enter query" placeholder text is cut off for me, I only see the top half of the words
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      • Gentlecat
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      • navap
        Gentlecat: Yeah I have to fix stuff because I'm not using the default bootstrap navbar height
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      • kepstin-laptop
        Gentlecat: hmm. that's working for me; the menus are scrollable
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      • nikki also doesn't like the orange text on purple when hovering :/
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      • navap
        kepstin-laptop: How narrow are you making your browser?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        huh, I can't reproduce the issue now
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I was seeing a problem with a narrow window, but it works ok in firefox's responsive design mode
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      • navap
        Odd. I didn't change anything
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      • kepstin-laptop
        huh. switched back to a window, and it's broken
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      • Freso
        nikki: I agrre. Purple text on orange background would be better.
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      • Freso
        *agree
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I'm on a release group page specifically http://navap.mbsandbox.org/release-group/69dae9fd…
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      • nikki
        the menus also seem slow
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      • Gentlecat
        weird, small navbar is fine in chrome on my ubuntu box, but on windows it's like that
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      • kepstin-laptop
        so I wonder if there's something on that page which is forcing the body wider
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      • navap
        nikki: The search box is 146px wide for me, is it narrower for you or is the texxt really big?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        navap: sounded more like a height issue?
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      • navap
        Oh whoops, misread nikki's bug
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      • nikki
        navap: nothing to do with the width
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      • kepstin-laptop
        navap: aha, figured it out. the issue is that the footer has some bits that aren't being responsive to width.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        er, maybe not
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      • kepstin-laptop
        never mind
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      • kepstin-laptop is still confused
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      • kepstin-laptop starts deleting stuff off the page
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      • nikki
        what's the point of the search toggle thing?
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      • navap
        To show off the fact that I know how to toggle things with jquery ;)
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      • nikki
        also with the menu being 100%, the rounded corners on it are weird :P
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      • nikki
        (wide, I mean)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        now that the search box is being shown by default, that should probably turn into a search button :)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        navap: ah, the issue i'm seeing with width has nothing to do with a bug on the page design
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      • kepstin-laptop
        it's a bug in my browser chrome :)
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      • navap
        phew :)
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      • nikki
        what a surprise :P
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      • kepstin-laptop
        the browser chrome has a minimum width and stops the page from getting smaller at some point, but for some reason you can make the window smaller and it starts clipping stuff
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      • kepstin-laptop
        weird
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      • kepstin-laptop
        owell, responsive design view is pretty awesome.
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      • kepstin-laptop kind of wants to spend a while playing with header styling :)
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      • nikki isn't convinced by the footer either, not that you were asking about that. it's bloody gigantic
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      • Gentlecat
        ah, works fine in other browsers, looks nice
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      • navap
        kepstin-laptop: Do it! :)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        to be honest, I think the header should be a bit taller.
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      • navap
        nikki: What do you suggest?
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      • hawke1
        nikki: So don’t scroll down that far, and it’ll be fine. ;-)
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      • Gentlecat
        isn't it too small?
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      • nikki
        hawke1: that doesn't work, I can't make "end" go to the end of the page content ignoring the footer
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      • Gentlecat
        kepstin-laptop: I agree
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      • kepstin-laptop
        and we've lost our shiny branding logo :/
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      • nikki
        good riddance :P
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      • navap
        On a side note, try viewing this with a narrow screen http://navap.mbsandbox.org/artist/d87e52c5-bb8d-4…
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      • hawke1
        nikki: ah, point.
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      • navap
        Specifically, look at the table data
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      • hawke1
        kepstin-laptop: a smaller logo next to the name would be OK.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        navap: hmm. I only get 3 columns visible
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      • kepstin-laptop
        horizontal scrolling
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      • nikki does that in one of her userscripts, but uses a music note because she hates our logo :P
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      • navap
        kepstin-laptop: Try it on an actual mobile device with touch support
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      • navap
        I think it's pretty natural feeling
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      • nikki
        how are you supposed to access the other columns if your screen isn't wide enough?
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      • Gentlecat
        turn your device? :)
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      • navap
        nikki: You scroll?
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      • nikki
        it's not showing me a scrollbar though
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      • kepstin-laptop
        heh, my phone actually manages 5.2 columns
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      • nikki
        only the vertical one
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      • Gentlecat
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      • kepstin-laptop
        there is a scrollbar at the bottom, and you can use touch scrolling anywhere on the table
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      • Gentlecat
        and scrolls
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      • kepstin-laptop
        not that bad, actually.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        getting firefox to do horizontall touch scrolling in the table is a bit hit and miss tho
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      • navap
        I added a placeholder logo into the navbar
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      • kepstin-laptop
        it has a delay before doing the horizontal scrolling because most of the time you do it by accident :/
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      • kepstin-laptop
        i.e. I have to move my finger a certain amount before it realizes I actually want a horizontal scroll
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      • kepstin-laptop
        but definitely usable