#musicbrainz-devel

alastairp: :)

I'll make a point of being short. <2 minutes is my goal.

yeah, I'm going to email everyone and tell them that they have 3 minutes

and then we boo them off the stage

perfect.

ruaok: have to get ian to do it though, as I don't have permission to metabrainz user

(and I don't really know what Im doing with git)

I cacn create a blank repo, would that help?

Well I dunno what the rise about populating that repos are, would ian be in charge of the meatbrainz repos for search server or me

heh, meatbrainz :)

its not the first time that has crossed my mind. :)

anyone who's an admin under metabrainz could manage it, plus anyone we add explicitly (i.e., presumably you)

the migration from svn can be a pain. I vote we let ianmcorvidae handle that. :)

yeah thanks ianmcorvidae

yeah. next time it's "morning" (i.e., I'm well-rested) I can look into getting git-svn set back up and remind myself about migrating users and things like that which are more finicky

and get a provisional migrated repo up for people to check

I like "morning"

that "morning" is a fluent concept just became clear to me.

well, if it was really a condition of literal sun-based morning I'd be doing it now :P

ruaok: and what about displaying?

Here, anything that is before 2pm is considered moring here.

it's always morning somewhere in the world anyway

Gentlecat: what about it?

are we just going to display all reviews with any language?

for now.

okay, I see

maybe later people will want to filter

you want to prepare for the future

I was thinking that we need to have filtering right now

deciding how to filter is a bit tricky, because not everyone is monolingual

maybe an option in profile settings: see reviews in any language or only same as UI

or serving me a site in spanish, even though my account is set to english.

spotify and deezer are particularly bad about that.

Spotify will show me Spanish new releases that I can play since I have a US spotify account

I've actually had sites change my settings when I went on a trip, and fail to change them back for a few weeks after I get back

last.fm was in japanese for a week or two because of that :P

on my laptop, google is still convinced I'm in hong kong

haha

wow, things work properly with a full dataset. :)

ruaok: I guess we need to implement reporting system http://critiquebrainz.org/review/4fc64ff2-f60d-...

and probably some kind of interface to manage that

Yes, that would actually be quite useful!

the good thing is that that review has 3 negative votes. :)

still sitting in Recent reviews though

I dont see that as a problem.

we want people to see that that reiview sucks.

:)

I wonder if we should show an excerpt of the review on the front page.

so that you can immediately spot shit reviews

I thought there was a minimum review length?

maybe show its score instead?

+1 to both you and nikki

some text might might make home page a more interesting

showing rating class & score might be good, actually

Gentlecat: play with it. see what looks good

I will

kepstin: in general we may want some syntax for MBIDs, I was commenting the other day

maybe have link shortcodes like on the wiki, yeah

the BBC ones have bbc music links that could be similarly transformed

I'm meeting with Nick from BBC next week (when everyone comes to BCN again!)

though presumably with at least the BBC ones that would constitute changing the content of the review, which would need marking as derivative. but that's not a huge deal)

I'll ask him about the future of reviews on the BBC site.

although unless you make it easy to use or automatically transform them, people won't use them much

if we add a rich text editor at some point, we could have an 'add link' thing that pops up a musicbrainz search box to select what to link to

ok, vmware VM is ready to be exported.

alastairp: I'm having serious issues pushing the latest VM out.

uploading?

I get great throughput for the first 100MB and then shit-all.

yeah.

weird

um

any ideas or tips?

usb drive

but seriously, no. sorry

might be your isp being silly :/

you could e.g. use a resumable rsync to copy it somewhere else

then when the throughput dies just cancel and resume it

I'm not even having luck getting rsync to resume. :(

I'll try copying to another host and see if that helps.

but that means copying across the atlantic too. :(

you're using the -P (or --partial) option on the rsync command?

hmm. I don't have another host in europe to test on

I guess they're limiting something somewhere

kepstin: I have. but I am going to start from scratch and see if that helps.

I suppose you could start the torrent process early

and thus let the inbound bandwidth to the server (potentially) come from multiple sources

but maybe that wouldn't help, if the throttle's close to you, hm

use bittorrent to upload to the server? heh :)

basically :P

btsync? :-)

modern bt clients use udp transfers and restart connections that go bad, so it could take care of the issue automatically.

if I had my USB key here, I would just sneakernet it home.

I guess I can take my portable drive home for the weekend

Is there any reason *not* to distribute the VM image via bittorrent?

I mean, generally — beyond this particular problem

Hawke: we are.

Then might as well upload that way too, maybe?

I suppose I can try.

I guess its fine even if it takes all weekend.

well, of course, you can still stick it on a drive and sneakernet it home to source it from two places

(though I guess you said you had no USB drive, just the portable HD)

shouldn't be any reason that uploading to the server via bt would be that much slower than rsync either.

well, currently mostly care about something that works and doesn't stall

403 forbidden

try again

ready to seed.

got it, adding to client

now we see if it works, of course, since I recall I've had trouble connecting to your stuff before, but

well, anyway, it's running in my client. not yet getting any peers that it seems to actually bother trying to connect to, but hopefully at some point :P

maybe tell it to ask for more peers, ruaok?

that would be ian and my server.

not sure if it'll help, but I suppose it's possible it won't work until your side tries to connect rather than mine

any idea how to tell transmission that?

probably right-click the torrent and see if it's there; in the transmission web interface that's where it is

the transgui interface is pretty nice too.

well, I see peers now

web ui works well over an ssh port forward from my work to home :)

hm, mine only just now actually picked up something it's registering as a seeder

still not actually downloading anything though :/

I see two peers

I have three peers, all with nothing completed

heh

1 using ipv6.

yeah, I don't think that anyone can get to me.

peer listening port is 51413 and its reported as closed.

ruaok: your client should eventually be able to get to someone else

Also, we should see you on the peer list.

yeah. I see kimsufi, amur.ru (Gentlecat I guess :P), and one that seems to have just dropped

(kepstin, I guess, .ca)

kimsufi is the server its supposed to go to

yeah