but it's just turn geordi.less into geordi.css anyway
2014-07-01 18250, 2014
ianmcorvidae
hm
2014-07-01 18254, 2014
ianmcorvidae
too old a less version, looks like?
2014-07-01 18208, 2014
Gentlecat
it worked fine with JS
2014-07-01 18211, 2014
Gentlecat
maybe
2014-07-01 18217, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah, needs 1.5.0 I guess
2014-07-01 18222, 2014
ianmcorvidae
which I should fix in the dependencies, but
2014-07-01 18204, 2014
ianmcorvidae
and yeah, the less.js one is from 1.7.something I think
2014-07-01 18221, 2014
ianmcorvidae
1.7.1 I guess
2014-07-01 18247, 2014
KillDaBOB
(sorry to interrupt your CB discussions) this is my daily plea to the Picard devs to release 1.3. evidence that this is a good thing: http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=50… people want to use Picard, but 1.2 is vastly out of date compared to 1.3. most people don’t even know where to find the daily builds. please finalize anything that needs to be done and release 1.3.
2014-07-01 18201, 2014
Gentlecat
ianmcorvidae: I don't think I can update it
2014-07-01 18213, 2014
Gentlecat
can you help me with that?
2014-07-01 18226, 2014
nikki notes that picard is maintained by volunteers, and asking them daily to do something is more likely to annoy them than anything
2014-07-01 18252, 2014
ianmcorvidae
Gentlecat: I don't see a node_modules folder in the geordi folder at all, where do you have it installed?
2014-07-01 18214, 2014
Gentlecat
I didn't install anything node-related
2014-07-01 18228, 2014
ianmcorvidae
lessc is a nodejs app
2014-07-01 18245, 2014
Gentlecat
I was using lessc that is installed right now on rika
2014-07-01 18248, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I'm not sure where you're getting lessc from is what I'm wondering
2014-07-01 18249, 2014
ianmcorvidae
hm
2014-07-01 18251, 2014
Gentlecat
yeah, I know
2014-07-01 18206, 2014
ianmcorvidae
hm
2014-07-01 18213, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah, I think installing it local to the directory would be best
2014-07-01 18224, 2014
ianmcorvidae
from the top directory of the geordi checkout, 'npm install'
2014-07-01 18234, 2014
ianmcorvidae
and then you'll have a lessc in node_modules/less/bin/lessc
2014-07-01 18250, 2014
KillDaBOB
nikki: who’s in charge of Picard? like I said yesterday, more and more over the past few weeks, people are coming to the forums with questions and problems that are resolved by telling them to obtain the daily builds of Picard. It’s time for 1.3 to be released. Who would be the person to bug to get this to happen?
I'm not sure who's in charge any more. luks used to do the windows builds, but afaik he's looking for someone else to take it over
2014-07-01 18222, 2014
Gentlecat
thanks for helping
2014-07-01 18212, 2014
nikki
but yes, as CatQuest said, the answer isn't to bug people
2014-07-01 18247, 2014
ianmcorvidae
hm, logout seems not to work? weird
2014-07-01 18203, 2014
ianmcorvidae
or the front page just won't interact properly with my cache or something, bah
2014-07-01 18226, 2014
Gentlecat
works fine here
2014-07-01 18243, 2014
KillDaBOB
if people are never bugged, they will never see this is a problem. people who are new to MB and all of its goodness will continue to download Picard 1.2 and continue to have problems and continue using an inferior product. 1.2 doesn’t have covert art download capibilities (except through a plugin that barely works). 1.2 automatically tags any release with more than one artist as a compilation, which is wrong. 1.2 cras
2014-07-01 18244, 2014
KillDaBOB
or won’t even load for some Windows 8 users (i’m not sure of the conditions) while 1.3 works just find for them. some of the devs, like bitmap, have stated they rarely read the forums, so they do not know about these issues. i’m championing for those on the forums whose voices are not heard.
2014-07-01 18247, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I can get the login button to reappear on other pages, but the front page will only show me logged in
2014-07-01 18230, 2014
Gentlecat
ianmcorvidae: custom-variables.less was a replacements for variables.less, right?
2014-07-01 18247, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah, it was variables.less with all the paddings/margins cut in half (basically)
2014-07-01 18253, 2014
Gentlecat
I thought that this file came from bootstrap and just replaced it
2014-07-01 18257, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2014-07-01 18207, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I'm not sure if there's a better way to do it just overriding the things we care about
2014-07-01 18227, 2014
ianmcorvidae
and now logout works for whatever reason
2014-07-01 18228, 2014
ianmcorvidae
weird
2014-07-01 18200, 2014
ianmcorvidae
anyway seems fine, I just wanted to look at the login-button styling again to make sure I liked it :)
2014-07-01 18227, 2014
Gentlecat
does checkbox look good?
2014-07-01 18205, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah -- I think I liked the slide-out a bit better, but the popup isn't bad
KillDaBOB: we're already aware that a new release is long overdue. as I said, the people who work on picard are volunteers, they're doing it in their own time for nothing. coming here and telling people to do a release and repeatedly talking about "bugging" people doesn't come across well, and isn't likely to make people want to have anything to do with it
2014-07-01 18214, 2014
nikki
I mean, who would want to admit to working on picard when you've just said you want to bug them daily until they do a release? :P
2014-07-01 18227, 2014
Gentlecat
ianmcorvidae: tooltip stops working after I move JS to the bottom of the page
2014-07-01 18241, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah, I noticed that was an inline script
2014-07-01 18259, 2014
ianmcorvidae
the inline script can presumably be put in block js to move it down though
it probably doesn't need to be in the code itself, I just don't understand bootstrap terribly well so I wanted to confirm I understood the right thing (i.e., when it's under a certain breakpoint, put it to the right (not sure exactly what pull-right does, but) and pull it to width 100%)
2014-07-01 18234, 2014
Gentlecat
okay, I'll add a comment in PR
2014-07-01 18251, 2014
Gentlecat
ianmcorvidae: I decreased the gap between navbar and h1
2014-07-01 18256, 2014
Gentlecat
is it better now?
2014-07-01 18214, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah, that looks better
2014-07-01 18223, 2014
KillDaBOB
nikki: point taken. my voice has been heard. a lot (not all) of the people who contribute to Picard hang out in this channel, so my hope is that they will read their logs and see this. i’ll keep quiet- for now.
2014-07-01 18202, 2014
ianmcorvidae
heh, I guess I should write matching soon so the login actually has a purpose
2014-07-01 18239, 2014
Gentlecat
I was thinking about trying to migrate to sqlalchemy
2014-07-01 18208, 2014
Gentlecat
to make code cleaner and development easier in general
2014-07-01 18212, 2014
ianmcorvidae
probably would be good, would make it easier to do the API stuff too
2014-07-01 18213, 2014
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2014-07-01 18233, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I just went more with what I know :)
2014-07-01 18252, 2014
chirlu` joined the channel
2014-07-01 18212, 2014
chirlu`
“Ned g’schimpft is g’lobt g’nug!”
2014-07-01 18219, 2014
chirlu`
(re: pep talk)
2014-07-01 18210, 2014
Mineo wonders if that's a "nicht"-ned or "nett"-ned
chirlu` thinks it should have been “isch”, actually.
2014-07-01 18201, 2014
ianmcorvidae
Gentlecat: they're from the pre-rewrite period, though some of them might be applicable still, or solved by the rewrite
2014-07-01 18218, 2014
ianmcorvidae
anything data-source-specific is certainly not applicable until we add those data sources back
2014-07-01 18253, 2014
ianmcorvidae
GEORDI-17 is half-solved by the test dataset, GEORDI-20 is definitely still applicable
2014-07-01 18224, 2014
ianmcorvidae
the stuff about importing subitems (no longer a concept that exists in the new version) and other entities are things the rewrite's supposed to help with, but there's no importer yet
2014-07-01 18217, 2014
ianmcorvidae
the automatic matching stuff is a can of worms we haven't really opened with the new code, though the intention is to move them into the geordi codebase rather than having them be external things talking to an API (which should help)
2014-07-01 18230, 2014
ianmcorvidae
I think a lot of the rest is data source specific
2014-07-01 18240, 2014
Gentlecat
okay
2014-07-01 18219, 2014
ianmcorvidae
lol the ninjatune data
2014-07-01 18233, 2014
ianmcorvidae
has 'NOT FOR RELEASE OR EXPLOITATION' in a barcode field somewhere, it appears
2014-07-01 18216, 2014
ianmcorvidae
bitmap: updated that release events/geordi PR
2014-07-01 18250, 2014
bitmap
cool
2014-07-01 18202, 2014
bitmap just got the emails and is still reading them :P
2014-07-01 18213, 2014
ianmcorvidae
if you have a better idea for the no_manip thing I'm all ears, heh, that was definitely a hack
2014-07-01 18234, 2014
ianmcorvidae
but it's not hopelessly repetitive anymore, which means even though I didn't do named functions it's probably not as insane to parse all the lambdas and whatever any more :P
2014-07-01 18258, 2014
ianmcorvidae wonders if I should break list(chain.from_iterable(foo)) into a utility
2014-07-01 18202, 2014
ianmcorvidae
probably
2014-07-01 18230, 2014
bitmap
it's definitely easier to read now
2014-07-01 18201, 2014
bitmap
where in the code is the PathPart normalization process you mentioned in the one comment?
2014-07-01 18234, 2014
bitmap is still wrapping his head around that part
as mentioned I'm pretty sure there's a better way to be doing this, but I don't want to force every path to stick "('some fake name',)" at the end or whatever
2014-07-01 18216, 2014
ianmcorvidae
oh, I guess it'd just be (,) but that's still silly
2014-07-01 18217, 2014
ianmcorvidae
one option is to stop accepting non-array things, i.e. let it be possible for a single release event thing to list more than one date and more than one country
2014-07-01 18239, 2014
ianmcorvidae
but that seems silly given you can/should just add another release event thing instead
2014-07-01 18208, 2014
ianmcorvidae
it'd be useful if you don't have the connection between dates and countries, but there's a separate place in the data format for so-called split data like that
2014-07-01 18208, 2014
ruaok runs off to bed
2014-07-01 18209, 2014
ruaok
nn!
2014-07-01 18215, 2014
ianmcorvidae
scaring you away, eh
2014-07-01 18218, 2014
ianmcorvidae
aw, he left :P
2014-07-01 18258, 2014
bitmap
I think I'm confusing tuples in the source path and tuples in the destination path