#musicbrainz-devel

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      • Gentlecat
        love this
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      • Gentlecat
        ianmcorvidae: I created PR as before, so feel free to share feedback there
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      • dufferzafar
        navap, bitmap: Can I please get access to https://github.com/musicbrainz/picard-plugins ?
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      • dufferzafar
        so I can create a master branch, and then fork and send a PR.
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      • Mineo
        could someone add some categories to http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2014/07/07/server-upd…, please?:)
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      • JonnyJD
        Mineo: done
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      • Mineo
        dankesehr
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      • Sang
        Hi. I am trying to install musicbrainz server on Centos 6.4 and was wondering if there are separate instructions for it
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      • navap
        dufferzafar: You've got access
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      • dufferzafar
        navap: thanks.
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      • navap
        Someone else did it actually, bitmap perhaps
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      • Freso
        Sang: I think the musicbrainz-server repository has some instructions in it?
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      • Freso
        Sang: Anyway, you will probably be in for less pain if you go for using a virtual image instead.
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      • bitmap
        oh, yeah, I did when I woke up and forgot to mention here
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      • Sang
        Ok I think I am close. We use EC2 instances and try to stick with Centos as much as possible
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      • Sang
        so the current issue that I am facing is probably to do with a required module
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      • Sang
        Compilation fails at this line: use MusicBrainz::Server::Validation qw( encode_entities );
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      • Sang
        Does that ring a bell on what I must be missing
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      • Freso
        ianmcorvidae: ^
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      • ianmcorvidae
        no.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (that module itself is part of our codebase, so you're not missing it, presumably it's something else it's including or such)
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      • Sang
        Ok Thanks. I was misreading the error. There was stuff about unicode above it which I fixed by doing this: cpanm Unicode::ICU::Collator so, moving on
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I think I may have found the first album I really want to write a review of on CB :)
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      • CallerNo6
        let your critique freak flag fly
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      • ianmcorvidae
        indeed :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, god I'm wordy
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      • ianmcorvidae
        oh well, it's designed for reading :P
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      • nikki
        you've just realised? :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        no, just reminded by that pesky Preview tab :P
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      • nikki
        :D
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      • ianmcorvidae
        less than 1000 words, I guess, but :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ... dammit
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      • ianmcorvidae
        overran the review length, heh
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      • ianmcorvidae
        Gentlecat: is there a specific reason for the particular review length limits that CB has? I really don't want to trim this down 1300 characters :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        though I guess it'd help my wordiness :P (anyway https://gist.github.com/ianmcorvidae/e50147290f65… XD)
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      • nikki
        that seems like a reasonable length of review
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
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      • ianmcorvidae
        6411 characters, max is 5000 right now
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I guess it's 5090 if you remove all the links, but :P
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      • nikki
        I mean, it should be possible to at least have a few sentences for each track, plus an intro and closing paragraph
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      • ianmcorvidae
        er, or maybe 5150. vim and wc seem to count things differently
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      • kepstin-laptop
        wc might not count unicode characters properly
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      • ianmcorvidae
        or vim might, yeah
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      • kepstin-laptop
        wc might count characters with the -m option, but the gnu coreutils are notoriously bad at that sort of thing :/
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      • ianmcorvidae also mutters about how spotify sucks for things like capsule :P
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      • kepstin-laptop
        passing through binary bytes properly, sure, but handling unicode, not so much :)
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      • ocharles
        evening folks
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      • ocharles
        MB went with Gandi for SSL, is that right?
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      • nikki
        hi ocharles
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      • kepstin-laptop is in canada, so he has no idea how much spotify sucks for things like capsule.
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      • nikki
        and yes afaik
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      • ianmcorvidae
        not sure, you'd have to ask ruaok who is currently without internet
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      • ianmcorvidae
        kepstin-laptop: spotify also sucks for things like canada!
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      • ocharles
        hum. I'm in charge of getting ssl for work tomorrow, and I feel like chemistry dog with this stuff :)
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      • ocharles
        I like Gandi as a company, so I'm inclined to go with them - MB hasn't had any problems of browser acceptance, afaik
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, they're pretty reliable
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      • ianmcorvidae
        their certs are signed by comodo, IIRC
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      • nikki prods warp
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      • ocharles
        yea, warp would know :)
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      • nikki
        my thoughts exactly XD
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      • ocharles
        ianmcorvidae: i think that's right, yea
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      • ocharles
        an ev wildcard is reasonable affordable
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      • ocharles
        also, we're going to be trying linode for hosting... which will be interesting :)
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      • kepstin-laptop uses startssl for his personal stuff
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      • ianmcorvidae
        generally the rules with SSL are, unless you're a bank don't bother with an EV cert probably, and as far as configs, https://github.com/ioerror/duraconf has some reasonable info, and use https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html to check your setup
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      • ocharles
        kepstin-laptop: sure, but this is a business that can afford to go a bit further
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      • ocharles
        ianmcorvidae: all good info, thanks!
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      • ianmcorvidae
        duraconf is pretty hardcore about secure ciphers, so you may need to add more (IIRC it only allows PFS ciphers, for example)
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      • ocharles
        those configs are especially useful
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      • ianmcorvidae
        depending what you're looking at supporting, etc.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        duraconf also turns on HSTS, which you may or may not need or care about
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (if you want to support non-ssl, you definitely *don't* want it, anyway)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        heh, the ssllabs test is kind of fun; kepstin.ca gets an A+ right now.
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      • ocharles
        we may actualy want hsts
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      • warp acks
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      • ocharles
        we are very websocket heavy, and proxys tend to fuck them up pretty consistently
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      • ocharles
        e.g., the entire site is unusable on EE's mobile network atm becaus they strip out the "Upgrade" header
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      • ocharles
        thanks guys!
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, obviously I don't know your needs :) so just trying to give general warnings
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, good job
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      • ocharles
        yea, appreciated :)
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      • warp
        I have nothing to add, ianmcorvidae covered everything interesting and more.
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      • ocharles
        well, I feel like i'll only be leaving with more questions
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      • ocharles
        but what else would I expect :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh
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      • warp
        :D
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      • ianmcorvidae
        good ol' security/crypto
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      • warp
        ocharles: the ssllabs thing is good to check when it's all set up.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        and MB too, probably, we're bad about that I guess :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, if you want HSTS, also note that you can fairly easily add yourself to browser lists of HSTS sites with pull requests (I believe at least chrome/FF have established processes for this), though I haven't researched it deeply
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      • Mineo
        wow, today I learned that one of the guys who started studying here in ilmenau with me is now winning one stage of the tour de france after another
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