#musicbrainz-devel

I expect the data to prove conclusively that there's only one Sting song.

haha

I mean, it's an okay song. Don't get me wrong.

so, when running abzsumbit, I occasionally get sqlite database locking errors

so, 92k unique recordings in abz now

yup

I should do those graphs, lossy stuff has been growing a lot more lately

my lossless stuff hasn't finished yet

this data set's gonna be a bit more weighted towards japanese pop than most, i think ;)

haha

probably got more estonian hip-hop than the average dataset just by my 6 CDs worth :P

well, it can only improve the results, right?

yup!

I was thinking I should write a crappy recommender to kick us off

something obviously terrible like levenshtein distance of the JSON :P

hmm, something with just the low-level data? Could do something silly like just match bpm and key

you like this song in C# major at 140bpm, so you'll obviously like this other one too!

that's far more sophisticated than I was thinking XD

I mean, I'm really thinking in the vein of making a truly terrible recommender that anyone can do better than, because I want to goad them into doing so :P

listeners who like songs with "satan" in the title will probably like other songs with "satan" in the title?

hah

I've been assured that nobody's smart enough to be wrong all the time. But it can't hurt to try?

doesn't have to be all the time

just on average :)

(if you actually got it wrong all the time, you could presumably just flip your rating and get something actually useful)

hence the expression :-)

( http://www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/nobody... )

past 100k uniques! :D

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alastairp: do you have a sec to talk about jesus christ your lord and saviour?

er wait.

how about the schema for the highlevel table? :)

I can see how you might confuse them

in particular I'm thinking of what version info we should track.

they're both world-changing

heh. :)

are you at the lab, or will do we do it here?

here. mom is in town and I only have half days while aleta baby-sits mom.

I don't know what features or algorithms high-level will be in the output

yeah, that too.

so, my inclinatio is to store: json, timestamp and essentia_git_sha

since, I am thinking that only the AB server should ever calculate high level stuff.

is that even a reasonable assumption?

split per algorithm?

ideally, but I just don't know if the essentia codebase is really ready for that/

I think we may just need to start with one version and get a move on.

the good thing is that we can re-calculate this at any time.

right. that'd be a good start then

ok, I'll get moving on that.

any signs of dima?

if there are many algorithms, there's no difference between 1 binary that spits out lots of bits of json, and many binaries that each spit out their own

no, but he normally does afternoons, I think

I'll try and grab him as soon as I can

I have to put out some ssl fires on freesound first, but back to this asap

ah yes.

alastairp: got a moment for a quick sanity check on https://github.com/metabrainz/acousticbrainz-se... ?

all high level related stuff only.

ah, I see. that spit is pretty cool

do you want to do antying about highlevel_json / raw_json table namess?

unsure.

we are not likely to need the split and view as we do for the lowlevel stuff.

first question is if ianmcorvidae intended for all the json to go into one table.

my gut instinct says to use two tables.

for scalability.

and then deciding on the names.

right

but ianmcorvidae is sleeping, right now.

but assuming you're ok with the columns in said tables, I'll press on for now.

changing table names during the review phase is easy.

combining tables less so, but I think having two tables is desireable.

we're not losing anything having separate tables.

yes, I think 2 is a good idea

otherwise, fine

ok, I'll keep moving then.

not sure I can get a PR up for the high level stuff today, but I'll try.

hm.

I'll build no locking support into the highlevel stuff.

I'm going to assume that there will be one master program that looks at the DB, determines which highlevel data needs to be calculated, fires off a thread that will then calculate the highlevel data.

it then takes ending threads and stores the data into the DB>

does the vm update the musicbrainz-server code automatically, or should I check it out again ?

just do a git pull on it.

it doesn't update automatically

so, >100k recordings now :)

this is great. 10% of our target in 5 days

at this rate that'll be ~400k by the end of the month, so if we get more people running it in the coming week I think 500k or more is really doable

I've just about hit all the music I have now, though.

keeping the rate up probably really requires getting more people to run the tool :)

right, but the only reason we've not opened this up wider is that the tools still have problems

rob is confident, and I agree with him, that we can dump this tool on 2-4x as many people immediately

which will keep up our submission speed

(which is a bunch of touhou arranges, mostly)

in fact, I think we should start tapping people on the shoulders quietly and ask them to jump in.

right

we need to get derwin in on this.

although when I'll be able to actually run it on *all* of my music is another question

if we can get either an osx or windows version available soon will be alot easier to get more users

(right now I can't do korean stuff, because apparently linux has a bug in its support for korean filenames on hfs filesystems)

ijabz1: that is our goal for friday, if at all possible

great

i wish

btw, have about 12k lossless tracks for scanning - are there instructions anywhere? :)

https://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz-de... this seems to work pretty good

ok, will see what I can do later :)

LordSputnik: sweet.

ruaok: Not sure what you guys are doing but i'd be happy to help whenever

got flacs?

no

even if lossy, anything helps at this point.

got linux?