perfect: "Our vision is to proactively build ethical deliverables so that we may continue to seamlessly engineer high standards in information while maintaining the highest standards."
2014-11-25 32929, 2014
outsidecontext
i see, yes. i would probably switch this around, something like "while the data will sometimes be out-of-date we will be dedicated to update it"
2014-11-25 32952, 2014
alastairp
but it's not us
2014-11-25 32903, 2014
alastairp
we're "at the whim" of the public who has access to the audio
2014-11-25 32943, 2014
ruaok
a middle ground between the two would be nice
2014-11-25 32913, 2014
outsidecontext
for my understanding: why will the data get out of date? because the exctractor code changes?
2014-11-25 32929, 2014
alastairp
yes
2014-11-25 32930, 2014
ruaok
yes.
2014-11-25 32954, 2014
alastairp
due to improvemtns
2014-11-25 32916, 2014
alastairp
should we swing it that way - not that the data gets out of date, but newer data may be improved
2014-11-25 32917, 2014
ruaok
not speling improvmnts
2014-11-25 32921, 2014
alastairp
or does that not help
2014-11-25 32933, 2014
ruaok
its still outta date.
2014-11-25 32937, 2014
alastairp
yeah
2014-11-25 32951, 2014
ruaok
alastairp: I think you're trying too hard to be positive all around.
2014-11-25 32905, 2014
ruaok
it is a positive trait to admit some weakness.
2014-11-25 32913, 2014
outsidecontext
or put it in a positive way: while AB and Essentia get improved, AB will keep older, out-dated data
2014-11-25 32917, 2014
ruaok
and it allows you to speak with a human voice and not corporate BS.
2014-11-25 32931, 2014
alastairp
yeah, right
2014-11-25 32940, 2014
alastairp maximises his ROI
2014-11-25 32935, 2014
alastairp
if we're only discussing the wording of 1 sentence in the whole document maybe we should circulate it wider
2014-11-25 32940, 2014
alastairp
to get more feedback
2014-11-25 32900, 2014
alastairp
I mean to say, we agree on everything else now, right?
2014-11-25 32901, 2014
ruaok
for maximum bike-shedding effect.
2014-11-25 32916, 2014
ruaok
I'm nearly happy with it.
2014-11-25 32928, 2014
ruaok
I think we should work to nail down that one sentence and get on with life.
2014-11-25 32926, 2014
outsidecontext thinks 5.2 is quite solid
2014-11-25 32937, 2014
ruaok
its short and simple.
2014-11-25 32933, 2014
ruaok
I think 5.3 is technically more accurate, but 5.2 reads better.
2014-11-25 32938, 2014
ruaok
either are acceptable to me.
2014-11-25 32948, 2014
alastairp
does 5.2 still read ok? if so, let's use it
2014-11-25 32958, 2014
ruaok
I think so.
2014-11-25 32905, 2014
alastairp
done
2014-11-25 32909, 2014
ruaok
I just incorporated it into #5
2014-11-25 32916, 2014
ruaok
let me give it a final complete read
2014-11-25 32928, 2014
ruaok
> Working in a vacuum will not improve this project.
2014-11-25 32940, 2014
ruaok
ideally we could turn this around and make it a positive.
2014-11-25 32943, 2014
alastairp
yeah
2014-11-25 32953, 2014
alastairp
everyone gains the most when they collaborate openly
2014-11-25 32948, 2014
ijabz
to me the 2nd half of line 2 reads rather negatively as if the project isn't really very good
2014-11-25 32914, 2014
ijabz
heh, didnt see your comment ruaok when i wrote that
2014-11-25 32915, 2014
ruaok
ijabz: exactly.
2014-11-25 32909, 2014
ruaok
alt 2.b, second half seem like I'm trying too hard
2014-11-25 32915, 2014
ruaok
alt 2.b, try 2 works for me.
2014-11-25 32921, 2014
ruaok
anyone?
2014-11-25 32957, 2014
ruaok accepts try 2
2014-11-25 32918, 2014
outsidecontext gives +1
2014-11-25 32918, 2014
ijabz
alt 2a & 2b do you need 'in an effort'
2014-11-25 32947, 2014
ruaok
not really, no.
2014-11-25 32954, 2014
ruaok
struck.
2014-11-25 32903, 2014
ruaok
ok, last call on feedback
2014-11-25 32954, 2014
ruaok
next question, where should this go?
2014-11-25 32901, 2014
ruaok
contribute section?
2014-11-25 32904, 2014
ruaok
new top level?
2014-11-25 32935, 2014
alastairp
contribute doesn't sound right
2014-11-25 32947, 2014
alastairp
faq?
2014-11-25 32907, 2014
alastairp
I'd like to see "errata" too, but that's starting to be lots of menus
2014-11-25 32945, 2014
ruaok
nuke sample data from top and replace with goals
2014-11-25 32959, 2014
ruaok
add sample data and goals to the home page
2014-11-25 32913, 2014
alastairp
link sample data from API
2014-11-25 32917, 2014
alastairp
or merge into "Data"
2014-11-25 32928, 2014
alastairp
with API on the main page, and link to sample data
2014-11-25 32950, 2014
ruaok is confused now
2014-11-25 32934, 2014
alastairp
sorry
2014-11-25 32948, 2014
atod joined the channel
2014-11-25 32918, 2014
alastairp
did you come up with something? do you want to talk about it?
2014-11-25 32949, 2014
ruaok
I think I know where you're going.
2014-11-25 32954, 2014
ruaok
trying now.
2014-11-25 32931, 2014
alastairp
should clients and data be on download? should clients be on contribute? -- it makes more sense, but I think people will go to 'download' even to download clients
2014-11-25 32903, 2014
ruaok
how about adding links?
2014-11-25 32924, 2014
alastairp
between the pages? yeah
2014-11-25 32901, 2014
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2014-11-25 32912, 2014
ruaok
there is a link to download on the contribute page.
is the fact that all of these are japanese releases a reflection of the fact that the rest of the world stopped using CDs years ago? :)
2014-11-25 32958, 2014
kepstin-laptop
hmm.
2014-11-25 32921, 2014
kepstin-laptop still has some new cds from other places, but not with the level of packaging seen in the japanese releases.
2014-11-25 32937, 2014
Freso
warp kepstin-laptop: Thanks!
2014-11-25 32918, 2014
kepstin-laptop notes that he doesn't have two copies of the album, he just combined the scans for both sides of the outer box into a single image.
2014-11-25 32915, 2014
nikki
we have more usa releases with multiple fronts than japanese ones
2014-11-25 32912, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I'd expect the most common "multiple fronts" case is when you have a scan of a cd booklet or digipak case opened up with the front and back visible, along with a cropped image of only the front
2014-11-25 32925, 2014
nikki
so I think really what you're seeing, warp, is this weird thing called music taste
2014-11-25 32943, 2014
nikki
if you listen to lots of japanese music, your examples are probably going to be japanese too :P
2014-11-25 32903, 2014
kepstin-laptop
I suspect freso brought it upon himself by asking "nikki or someone else" for examples ;)
2014-11-25 32933, 2014
alastairp
sigh. why is our lab connected to the 100mb switch in the comms room instead of the gig-e one?
2014-11-25 32938, 2014
nikki
and it doesn't help either that japan is one of the most well-represented countries
2014-11-25 32940, 2014
alastairp
how long has this been going on for
2014-11-25 32950, 2014
warp
nikki :)
2014-11-25 32924, 2014
kepstin-laptop
well represented by releases, but not particularly well by editors :/
2014-11-25 32938, 2014
nikki
yeah :/
2014-11-25 32944, 2014
nikki
I meant by data rather than editors though
2014-11-25 32951, 2014
Freso
kepstin-laptop: Brought what upon myself?
2014-11-25 32901, 2014
kepstin-laptop
Freso: getting japanese releases as your examples.
