#musicbrainz-devel

Mineo: how bi-directional is MineoBot with regards to Wikidata links? Does it update MB if a wikidata link is added on the wikidata side?

no, it does not do that

Mineo: but it will ensure any Wikidata links in MB are reflected in Wikidata, within a day or so...?

how does it handle false positives (cases where there is a Wikidata link in MB, but it is wrong)?

it runs 15 minutes after the hour on rika, so depending on when the replication on rika happens, between 1 and 2 hours

unless, as is the case right now, it just deadlocks :/

oh?

ah, I see it hasn't run since the 24th. :-(

yes, it probably just wants me to reenter the password

heh. which password -- Wikidata, MB, or something else?

and instead of just being like "hey, I'm being called from cron and there's no way somebody's going to enter a password here, I'll just exit(1)" or something it waits :/

wikidata

sigh.

you don't have it hardcoded? (not that that is a *good* idea, but it would avoid this problem...)

I don't think you can hardcode the password

hm. what framework are you using to access wikidata?

regarding the false positives: it only processes url entities where edits_pending on the entry in url and l_*_url (or l_url_work :P) is 0

and meh, in this case it didn't want the password but just randomly deadlocked

(again :( )

But it will re-add entries if someone at Wikidata objects and removes it?

sympathy

no, it will only look at each primary entity in mb once

there are some <uuid, timestamp> tables that keep track of the already processed ones

what if someone edits the Wikidata linkage in MB, after the bot has gone over it once? It won't update the linkage on Wikidata?

it won't

(the framework is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot )

the code is at https://github.com/mineo/mb2wikidatabot if you want to play with it :)

thanks

do you know if there is an equivalent of reports.mbsandbox.com for Wikidata?

there's https://wdq.wmflabs.org/

and there's https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database...

what does FIF stand for in the context of URL input fields?

is that related to anything I did? because I have no idea :P

no, something else I'm looking at. :-)

sorry for the confusion

then I'll take this chance to hop into bed - it's already 1:42 am over here

gute nacht

g'night! thanks for the links and anwers

and thanks for restarting the bot!

Mineo (if you read the logs) -- I think the bot has deadlocked again...

It hasn't run since 0:38 UTC

I'm getting test failures in beta -- specifically, the DeleteEditor test

ignore it -- I didn't have Markdown installed.

michaeljames: The search server in SVN is completely outdated, you should be using a git checkout instead.

legoktm: thanks

chirlu`: BTW, do you know who can update http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ to add a prominent "THIS IS OUTDATED, SEE tickets.musicbrainz.org for current work" banner?

It’s probably going away soon anyway.

and maybe redirect the http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/browser pages to something more current, also?

doesn't it have data that isn't copied elsewhere on it still?

I don’t think so, I believe everything still relevant has been archived.

good

it would still be better to have a soft redirect, as it is apparently pretty widely linked...

However, when “soon” will be is another question. :)

I've installed the musicbrainz mirror according to INSTALL.md but don't know how to keep it in sync as this part is not covered in the guide

are there any Upstart or SysVinit scripts that you're using?

I think you need to put admin/cron/slave.sh into cron and run it hourly

(to update the db itself)

to update things like the search server, I have no idea how we do that

the servers seem ridiculously slow lately...

it's taking so long to enter edits that I keep switching to something else to pass the time while I wait

Maybe it's all a plot to make us try bookbrainz :p

it didn't work :P

I ended up editing wikidata a bit instead

cannot run ./slave.sh --> http://pastebin.com/3pgrCMAn

nvm, i figured it out

JesseW: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBH-178 is presumably the ticket you want to watch

oh yay, from slow to instant 504s, nice

Am I the only one having a high 504 frequency?

nikki: thanks

Oh, I guess nikki was gaving some too.

I had one. mostly the site is just sloooow

bookbrainz also throwing 504s

And Geordi.

I'm trying to set up a headphones vm, and when I start it, it just spools up to 100% CPU and I can't ssh to it.

Is the current downloadable VM still working?

anyone here?

hi

it should be, what server are you using etc?

running the vm in Ubuntu Server 14.04 headless.

Virtualbox

I have a Win7 vm running fine, but this MusicBrainz server just sits at 100%.

I gave it 1 CPU and 2048 RAM.

running on an Intel G1610 2.6GHz Celeron.

any ideas derwin?

I don't know, unfortunately

I have not had that experience on ubuntu headless

I just removed/unregistered the vm and re-imported it, and same thing. Just spins at 100%

does MusicBrainz need to be running 24/7?

if not, I'll just try to install it on my desktop OS, and run it occasionally.

is the server 32-bit or 64-bit, derwin?

the VM, that is.

Meh, I'll try 64-bit and see if it works.

And soon, I'll give up on this, b/c I don't even understand what MusicBrainz is.

I found the problem - when I use the vm in VirtualBox in OSX, it's waiting for me to choose Ubuntu from a list

heh

that's weird, it should default

I just need to know how to actually see the VM, when I'm starting the VM from the command line.

I've run it headless

pretty sure, but maybe not the most recent

derwin: I'm sure it's just a first run thing

Geordi is really running badly today. :( Half the time, the field for entering an MBID never appears when doing the "Match this item" button. :(

Freso: I'll restart the process, dunno if it'll help

ianmcorvidae: It seems to be general MB thing though, not just a Geordi/rika thing.

that's part of the being unsure it'll help :) but I figured it was worth a shot

Freso: not that geordi's on rika, if that's what you meant, but :)

Right. :p