#musicbrainz-devel

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      • alastairp
        weeksio_: have you seen http://music-encoding.org/?
      • 2015-06-23 17430, 2015

      • weeksio_
        interesting...nope, I hadn't
      • 2015-06-23 17407, 2015

      • alastairp
        there’s lots of this stuff going on in the background
      • 2015-06-23 17417, 2015

      • alastairp
        the best bet is to get all of these other databases speaking musicbrainz ids
      • 2015-06-23 17458, 2015

      • alastairp
      • 2015-06-23 17419, 2015

      • weeksio_
        yep...MEI seems pretty ambitious...I was just thinking themes (4 or 8 bars...melody only)
      • 2015-06-23 17430, 2015

      • weeksio_
        Gotta start preachin' the gospel of the MBID
      • 2015-06-23 17442, 2015

      • weeksio_
        oh well...just some thoughts
      • 2015-06-23 17458, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        hm, these stats don't look right http://acousticbrainz.org/
      • 2015-06-23 17420, 2015

      • alastairp
        ohhh, interesting
      • 2015-06-23 17421, 2015

      • ruaok
        yay!
      • 2015-06-23 17429, 2015

      • alastairp
        maybe I should try your patches before OKing them
      • 2015-06-23 17430, 2015

      • ruaok
        we've scanned more music than exists. go us!
      • 2015-06-23 17451, 2015

      • alastairp
        ruaok: damn duplicates
      • 2015-06-23 17420, 2015

      • ruaok
        that site looks gorgeous. :)
      • 2015-06-23 17427, 2015

      • ruaok
        sans the overflow. :)
      • 2015-06-23 17411, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        oh, I see
      • 2015-06-23 17404, 2015

      • Gentlecat
      • 2015-06-23 17410, 2015

      • alastairp
        ah, right
      • 2015-06-23 17411, 2015

      • alastairp
        lol
      • 2015-06-23 17413, 2015

      • alastairp
        go for it
      • 2015-06-23 17429, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        ok, a bit better now http://acousticbrainz.org/ :P
      • 2015-06-23 17456, 2015

      • Gentlecat
      • 2015-06-23 17418, 2015

      • alastairp
        maybe
      • 2015-06-23 17427, 2015

      • alastairp
        I’m heading out for a party soon
      • 2015-06-23 17435, 2015

      • ruaok
        "party"
      • 2015-06-23 17450, 2015

      • ruaok
        I think it is safe to say that we currently live in a party.
      • 2015-06-23 17437, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        parties are nice
      • 2015-06-23 17457, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        would be great if you could dump some more info into that wiki page
      • 2015-06-23 17406, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        I'll work on something else for now
      • 2015-06-23 17451, 2015

      • ruaok
        huh. samba band in our hood.
      • 2015-06-23 17456, 2015

      • ruaok
        drowing out the fireworks.
      • 2015-06-23 17459, 2015

      • ruaok
        +n
      • 2015-06-23 17418, 2015

      • alastairp
        I’m not sure what to put there
      • 2015-06-23 17433, 2015

      • alastairp
        perhaps the best way would be for you to make a fake dataset
      • 2015-06-23 17439, 2015

      • alastairp
        and try and run the code that’s there
      • 2015-06-23 17458, 2015

      • alastairp
        so that you get an idea about what runs and what’s involved
      • 2015-06-23 17417, 2015

      • alastairp
        after that we can talk about what data of the run we need to store
      • 2015-06-23 17455, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        yeah
      • 2015-06-23 17457, 2015

      • alastairp
        is that an OK idea or do you want more guidance?
      • 2015-06-23 17411, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        I guess I could just start building stuff around this https://github.com/MTG/essentia/blob/master/FAQ.m…
      • 2015-06-23 17423, 2015

      • alastairp
        (it wouldn’t be until thursday when I get a chance to run it again myself to remind me)
      • 2015-06-23 17425, 2015

      • alastairp
        right, exactly
      • 2015-06-23 17431, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        hopefully I'll be able to figure out how to run this thing
      • 2015-06-23 17434, 2015

      • alastairp
        I finally updated the code so that it works as functions :)
      • 2015-06-23 17442, 2015

      • alastairp
        not crazy sys.argv hacking
      • 2015-06-23 17405, 2015

      • alastairp
        the only thing is it stores a bunch of intermediate work as files on disk
      • 2015-06-23 17413, 2015

      • alastairp
        (there’s the idea of a ‘project directory’)
      • 2015-06-23 17433, 2015

      • alastairp
        I don’t know if we want to consider running on other machine clusters - aws/google compute cloud? ruaok ?
      • 2015-06-23 17438, 2015

      • alastairp
        I think we should start simple
      • 2015-06-23 17414, 2015

      • ruaok
        I think we should think about allowing multiple systems, but not put energy towards each one yet.
      • 2015-06-23 17434, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        so try to keep it separate from the rest of server?
      • 2015-06-23 17435, 2015

      • ruaok
        if this takes off and we ask for resources, they might come from many different corners of the net
      • 2015-06-23 17453, 2015

      • ruaok
        if that isn't a lot of effort, that sounds good to me
      • 2015-06-23 17403, 2015

      • alastairp
        hmm, that’s a good idea
      • 2015-06-23 17419, 2015

      • alastairp
        one thing we’ll have to address early on is how to pass data to it
      • 2015-06-23 17425, 2015

      • alastairp
        so, there’s this thing
      • 2015-06-23 17435, 2015

      • alastairp
        gaia (the tool we use) only reads yaml
      • 2015-06-23 17442, 2015

      • alastairp
        there’s an open ticket to add json support
      • 2015-06-23 17454, 2015

      • alastairp
        so currently the tool takes json file, converts to yaml file, runs the eval
      • 2015-06-23 17407, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        how hard is it?
      • 2015-06-23 17418, 2015

      • alastairp
        this means that to get the original json files we need to dump from the db to disk
      • 2015-06-23 17427, 2015

      • alastairp
        to add support? moderately difficult
      • 2015-06-23 17446, 2015

      • alastairp
        to keep with the status quo and use the intermediate converter? no effort
      • 2015-06-23 17404, 2015

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      • alastairp
        Gentlecat: so, after I install vagrant how do I run it?
      • 2015-06-23 17424, 2015

      • alastairp
        vagrant ssh, cd, runserver?
      • 2015-06-23 17449, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        yes, looks right
      • 2015-06-23 17435, 2015

      • alastairp
        that’s annoying
      • 2015-06-23 17447, 2015

      • alastairp
        (I’d like a single command that I can run from my host)
      • 2015-06-23 17450, 2015

      • alastairp
        I’ll look into it
      • 2015-06-23 17420, 2015

      • alastairp
        do you run as vagrant or as root?
      • 2015-06-23 17442, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        I run everything as root
      • 2015-06-23 17456, 2015

      • alastairp
        *twitch*
      • 2015-06-23 17429, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        you want it to run and reload the app automatically after boot?
      • 2015-06-23 17452, 2015

      • alastairp
        I thought about it, but that’s not a good idea for development
      • 2015-06-23 17457, 2015

      • alastairp
        e.g. if the autoloader falls over
      • 2015-06-23 17402, 2015

      • alastairp
        or you want to catch debugging
      • 2015-06-23 17405, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        right
      • 2015-06-23 17411, 2015

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      • alastairp
        hmm, so you can do ‘vagrant ssh -c <some command>’, and when that command stops you’ll be logged out again
      • 2015-06-23 17448, 2015

      • alastairp
        the problem is that ssh takes a bit of time to start up, which makes it not nice
      • 2015-06-23 17438, 2015

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      • ocharles_
        whoever it was that pinged me about the VM... I'm having a play now
      • 2015-06-23 17436, 2015

      • ocharles_
        it feels like Freso would have made such a ping :P
      • 2015-06-23 17445, 2015

      • Freso
        I think it was. :p
      • 2015-06-23 17423, 2015

      • Freso
        ruaok | fun stuff, but music hack days are fundamentally changing. not sure how to feel about that. — changing how?
      • 2015-06-23 17421, 2015

      • ocharles_
        Sweet, got at least a responsive HTTP server on port 5000
      • 2015-06-23 17454, 2015

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      • Freso
        :)
      • 2015-06-23 17418, 2015

      • ocharles_
        But now... more Splatoon
      • 2015-06-23 17407, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Is everyone playing that game but me? :(
      • 2015-06-23 17414, 2015

      • reosarevok grumbles at you rich Wii U owners :p
      • 2015-06-23 17430, 2015

      • ocharles_
        Kind of amazing that this gets you a VM, open on port 5000, serving musicbrainz (and of course crashing to connect to the DB) https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/W9ldUP8s/
      • 2015-06-23 17441, 2015

      • ocharles_
        reosarevok: it's the cheapest console!
      • 2015-06-23 17446, 2015

      • ocharles_
        And a super super fun game
      • 2015-06-23 17456, 2015

      • ocharles_
        I have thrown the game pad on the floor a few times tonight though...
      • 2015-06-23 17407, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Well, I got a Wii from a friend who hadn't used it in a year, so I'm going through older games :p
      • 2015-06-23 17431, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Maybe at some point I can afford a Wii U, although I bet it'll be when they have the Wii V already
      • 2015-06-23 17444, 2015

      • ocharles_
        The "NX" apparently
      • 2015-06-23 17414, 2015

      • reosarevok
        That sounds like NGS, the kind where you don't know what to name the following one
      • 2015-06-23 17417, 2015

      • reosarevok
        "XNX"?
      • 2015-06-23 17421, 2015

      • Leftmost
        Wii V sounds funny.
      • 2015-06-23 17437, 2015

      • ocharles_
        heh
      • 2015-06-23 17450, 2015

      • ocharles_
        Wii V sounds too much like people badly saying Wi-Fi
      • 2015-06-23 17459, 2015

      • ocharles_
        (people seem to say "wee fee" sometimes..)
      • 2015-06-23 17411, 2015

      • reosarevok
        And Wii sounds too much like people badly saying "wee" and it never stopped them :p
      • 2015-06-23 17401, 2015

      • kuno
        ocharles_: I assume NX is just their internal codename for that thing
      • 2015-06-23 17400, 2015

      • ocharles_
        yea
      • 2015-06-23 17411, 2015

      • ocharles_
        kuno: are you splatooning?
      • 2015-06-23 17420, 2015

      • reosarevok
        oh. ocharles_: I saw you're using strava?
      • 2015-06-23 17434, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Does it have significant advantages re:biking over a more generic thing like Endomondo?
      • 2015-06-23 17434, 2015

      • Freso
        ocharles_: Should I be splatooning?
      • 2015-06-23 17416, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Freso: if you have a Wii U I think you should, it seems to be what everyone who has one is doing all day :p
      • 2015-06-23 17443, 2015

      • ocharles_
        Freso: yes!
      • 2015-06-23 17455, 2015

      • ocharles_
        reosarevok: I can't compare, but I'm very happy with Strava + veloviewer
      • 2015-06-23 17443, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Using the pro version I guess?
      • 2015-06-23 17446, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Premium, whatever
      • 2015-06-23 17401, 2015

      • reosarevok is biking quite a bit lately but it feels a bit pricey
      • 2015-06-23 17436, 2015

      • ocharles_
        I am premium on both, yea
      • 2015-06-23 17456, 2015

      • ocharles_
        Well I'm about to drop 2k on a bike tomorrow... so Strava is cheap compared to my other excessive purchases :p
      • 2015-06-23 17415, 2015

      • reosarevok
        haha
      • 2015-06-23 17427, 2015

      • reosarevok
        While I'm biking around on a single-speed town bike
      • 2015-06-23 17435, 2015

      • ocharles_
        Is it flat there?
      • 2015-06-23 17411, 2015

      • Freso
        ~28£ :/
      • 2015-06-23 17437, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Very :)
      • 2015-06-23 17450, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Highest point in the country is 317 m
      • 2015-06-23 17455, 2015

      • reosarevok
        So it's not too bad
      • 2015-06-23 17403, 2015

      • reosarevok
        But still, not really designed for it
      • 2015-06-23 17419, 2015

      • ocharles_ nods
      • 2015-06-23 17447, 2015

      • ianmcorvidae
        splatoon is fun! I need to play more because I'm terrible at it, but it's fun
      • 2015-06-23 17436, 2015

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      • ocharles_
        ianmcorvidae: my nintendo network id is ocharles if you want to add me :)
      • 2015-06-23 17454, 2015

      • ianmcorvidae
        I'll do that next time I turn it on! I'm not up to level 10 for ranked battles yet, another facet of "I need to play it more", but
      • 2015-06-23 17403, 2015

      • ianmcorvidae
        (and I'm ianmcorvidae, as you might guess, heh)
      • 2015-06-23 17437, 2015

      • ocharles_
        :) i take it far too seriously
      • 2015-06-23 17444, 2015

      • ocharles_
        (b-/b ranked)
      • 2015-06-23 17450, 2015

      • ocharles_
        ok, bed now!
      • 2015-06-23 17459, 2015

      • ianmcorvidae
        nn