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      • tom[]
        in the mb server schema description (http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Database/S…) the abbreviation AR is used where it discusses the link tables. what does AR mean?

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      • Gentlecat
        probably Advanced Relationship

        • 2015-08-12 22442, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/History:How_Advanced_…

        • 2015-08-12 22420, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        not sure how up to date this page is

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      • CallerNo6
        tom[], AR refers to the way relationships are implemented as shown @ https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Database…

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      • CallerNo6
        Why "advanced"? I'm not sure. Maybe to differentiate them from sql relations?

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      • drsaunde
        i think it was just advanced as in at one time the only relationships we had were release-artist and track-artist, so all the release credits were really advanced from what we had before (or at least I always assumed it was this)

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      • reosarevok
        luks: are you the person to direct questions about the Picard cuesheet plugin to?

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      • reosarevok
        (we got a question at support but I have no idea about it :) )

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      • luks
        reosarevok: no, I'm not

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      • luks
        direct questions about picard should be forwarded here http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewforum.php?id=2

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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: don't know how much time you have for that, but I've set up a sentry instance on sakura

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      • Gentlecat
        now I just need a subdomain to run it on

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      • Gentlecat
        something like sentry.meb.org

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      • ruaok
        hey.

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      • ruaok
        I've added it to my todo list.

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      • Gentlecat
        thanks :)

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      • alastairp
        Gentlecat: congrats

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      • ruaok
        not sure when I'll get to that though. other more pressing things on my list.

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      • alastairp
        wait? what? I didn't hear anything

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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: huh?

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      • ruaok snickers

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      • alastairp
        hi ruaok

        • 2015-08-12 22436, 2015

      • alastairp
        how's the trip?

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      • ruaok
        good so far. yours?

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      • ruaok
        headed to Chaos Camp tomorrow morning. :)

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      • alastairp
        we spent 5 days in the mountains. it was nice

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      • alastairp
        I'm back here now. it's no way near as nice

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      • alastairp
        i'll take another break in the last week of august

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      • ruaok
        smrt.

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      • ruaok
        the weather in BCN has been consistently cooler than in northern europe. again.

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      • ruaok
        happened to us last year too.

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      • alastairp
        have fun at Chaos Camp. I'm a little jealous

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      • alastairp
        did you take anything with you?

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      • ruaok
        not of my own stuff.

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      • ruaok
        but we will have a cocktail bot bicycle, an ice machine, a grill and too much meat.

        • 2015-08-12 22416, 2015

      • ruaok
        kinda of a bachelor trip to the camp. :)

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      • ruaok
        Gentlecat: https://github.com/metabrainz/metabrainz-logos/bl…

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      • Gentlecat
        ?

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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: anything else I should be saying when answering to possible-customer emails btw? :)

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      • ruaok
        better? monkeydo improved the lettering that was bugging you.

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      • ruaok
        reosarevok: that was perfect.

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      • reosarevok
        Ok :)

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      • reosarevok
        The dots on the is look a bit weird, but couldn't say why :)

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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: hm, I'm not sure what's changed. still looks weird

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      • Gentlecat
        yeah

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      • Gentlecat
        "d" in Picard too

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      • reosarevok
        I guess it might be that the lowercase is almost as big as the uppercase, so the upper bits of it look a bit crammed

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      • Gentlecat
        this font is strange in general

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      • alastairp
        the dots make the letter higher than the upper-case

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      • alastairp
        reosarevok: snap

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      • Gentlecat
        seems incoherent

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      • ruaok
        gah.

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      • ruaok
        all of our nit picking is getting expensive. :(

        • 2015-08-12 22439, 2015

      • ruaok
        at this point we can't change the font.

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      • ruaok
        so, we just need to figure out where things need to be manually fixed.

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      • ruaok
        I'm happy with the new picard logo, tbh.

        • 2015-08-12 22437, 2015

      • ruaok
        Gentlecat: have a look at the latest commits from monkeydo. See if you can find concrete things that still need fixing.

        • 2015-08-12 22424, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        I mean, logo looks nice. I just noticed that problem with the font and thought that it might be improved a bit

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      • Gentlecat
        if it can't be changed, so be it

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      • ruaok
        it can be changed, but we need to come to a stopping point.

        • 2015-08-12 22403, 2015

      • ruaok
        so, please have a look and then if there is anything quite serious, make a new ticket.

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      • Gentlecat
        I don't have anything else

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      • ruaok
        so, case closed then?

        • 2015-08-12 22403, 2015

      • ruaok
        because monkeydo has closed the tickets.

        • 2015-08-12 22426, 2015

      • ruaok
        so, unless we re-open or make new tickets, we'll call it done.

        • 2015-08-12 22400, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        we can always make adjustments ourselves, right?

        • 2015-08-12 22419, 2015

      • ruaok
        sure, I don't see why not.

        • 2015-08-12 22418, 2015

      • tom[]
        CallerNo6: drsaunder: tnx

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      • tom[]
        CallerNo6: to the RDBMS and to SQL there's nothing different or advanced about these relations. these relations are advanced in the sense that you can represent advanced concepts with them or that it takes advanced application software to make sense of them

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      • tom[]
        i guess

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      • ruaok
        <sniff> bye bye wifi

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      • ruchiranga
        http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/SEARCH-397 says Instrument has support for tags but /ws/2/instrument?fmt=json&query=tag:(electronic)&offset=0 does not return any results

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      • reosarevok
        Are there any actual instruments with that tag?

        • 2015-08-12 22402, 2015

      • reosarevok doubts people have actually tagged instruments much, if at all

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      • ruchiranga
        I tried several ones like classical pop rock jazz but none of them gave anything

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      • ruchiranga
        Is it safe to think the query would work when the db has some instruments tagged?

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      • reosarevok
        I would expect that if it works for areas and/or series it will work for all 3

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      • ruchiranga
        areas also does not return any results for the above tags

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      • ruchiranga
        but for series it works

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      • reosarevok
        Then I'd imagine it is fine and the others just don't have the tag

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      • reosarevok
        Because they all work the same way so it'd be weird if one got added fine and the other two wrongly :)

        • 2015-08-12 22410, 2015

      • ruchiranga
        oh right then thanks :)

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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: can you clarify https://github.com/metabrainz/acousticbrainz-serv… please?

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      • Gentlecat
        getting False there if dictionary is empty is what we need

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      • alastairp
        yes, but I don't like the double-check

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      • Mineo
        alastairps if statement catches both cases ("highlevel" is not a key and s_d["highlevel"] is {}) at once

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      • alastairp
        the "if x and y"

        • 2015-08-12 22426, 2015

      • alastairp
        I prefer one statement

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      • Gentlecat
        ohh, I see

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      • alastairp
        it actually seems funny to me that the get_summary_data fills in the "highlevel" key if there is no highlevel data (if the hl extractor fails)

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      • alastairp
        an alternative fix would be to change that

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      • Gentlecat
        it took me way too long to understand your "if summary_data.get("highlevel", {})"

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      • Gentlecat
        yeah, that's better :)

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      • alastairp
        hmm, right. I thought it was pretty standard python

        • 2015-08-12 22401, 2015

      • alastairp
        but if you don't use it it can be confusing

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      • Gentlecat
        yeah, I'm just not used to .get()

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      • alastairp
        on second thoughts, you don't actually need the , {}

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      • alastairp
        because get returns None if the key isn't there

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      • alastairp
        normally you use the second argument if you're assigning it to a value

        • 2015-08-12 22446, 2015

      • alastairp
        and you need the types to match

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      • Gentlecat
        right

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      • weeksio
        Mineo: is there a way to edit the pom for the solrquerywriter so the solr-core and lucene-core jars aren't included in the jar-with-dependencies?

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      • weeksio
        we need the jar with dependencies....just not those

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      • weeksio
        because they are already included in solr and because the duplication causes weird request handler warnings

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      • Mineo
        I don't know if that's possible, have you looked at the maven docs?

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      • weeksio
        yes...but have I understood them fully? ...no :P

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      • weeksio
        It almost fixes the problem to use the jar without dependencies, but I still need mmd2

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      • Mineo
        well, they are not included if you build the jar from my master branch, so some change between my pom.xml and yours must make maven include them

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      • weeksio
        ah....ooops!

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      • Mineo
        I'd guess solr itself includes solr-analysis-extras, so you could try setting its scope to provided

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      • Mineo
        but that's just a guess

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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: are you sure history file generation is supposed to be slow?

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      • Gentlecat
        it took 0.08 seconds on a dataset with 40 items

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      • alastairp
        no, I'm not sure

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      • alastairp
        well

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      • Gentlecat
        I'm trying to understand if we can just do that during initial evaluation

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      • darwin
        pretty bad 502s :/

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      • Gentlecat
        because that would significantly simplify this thing

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      • alastairp
        Gentlecat: you remember that the evaluation process runs 720 evaluations?

        • 2015-08-12 22400, 2015

      • alastairp
        with parameter permutations

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      • Gentlecat
        I guess, that's what it says: "number of results ==== 720"

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      • alastairp
        right

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      • alastairp
        the final history file generation is the equivalent of one more of these