anyway, ocharles, chrisdone's scrobble-server thing does seem like it could be a reasonable start if we figure out where our track IDs go in tags and I can coerce mpdscribble to use that insetad of a recording ID
2013-08-23 23529, 2013
ocharles
ok, no [error]s in lolo's log for the last 30 minutes or so and asterix is completely out
2013-08-23 23531, 2013
kuno
ianmcorvidae: hacks
2013-08-23 23532, 2013
ocharles
think we're good there!
2013-08-23 23503, 2013
kuno
ianmcorvidae: but pump.io is pretty nice to develop clients for once you get past the OAuth stuff.
2013-08-23 23517, 2013
ianmcorvidae
ocharles: sweet :D
2013-08-23 23556, 2013
ianmcorvidae
kuno: well, can't possibly be as bad as last.fm's quasi-oauth that nobody ever uses (since the legacy protocol is better), at least :P
heh, I have no idea how I would use an alternative thing to scrobble to
2013-08-23 23531, 2013
ianmcorvidae
what player do you use anyway?
2013-08-23 23554, 2013
nikki
cog
2013-08-23 23521, 2013
nikki
and a version of the last.fm scrobbler which attempts to convince me to upgrade it every time I start it
2013-08-23 23536, 2013
ianmcorvidae
well, it looks like at the very least the chrisdone thing ollie was mentioning can figure it out when you just proxy
2013-08-23 23551, 2013
ianmcorvidae
though the official lastfm scrobbler possibly uses their weird quasi-oauth second-gen API that nobody else bothers with
2013-08-23 23524, 2013
kepstin-laptop
most open-source players have made it possible to switch the domain that the scrobble api connects to; but you can make any player use an alternate by simply making the last.fm api domain go to a different box by editing your hosts file.
2013-08-23 23512, 2013
ianmcorvidae
whoo, freedb.mb now post-schema-change
2013-08-23 23519, 2013
ianmcorvidae
now to catch it up on three months of replication packets
2013-08-23 23551, 2013
kuno
ianmcorvidae: that's probably an issue with music player daemon, perhaps it is now fixed.
2013-08-23 23515, 2013
ianmcorvidae
kuno: which one, the transliteration?
2013-08-23 23529, 2013
ianmcorvidae
kuno: that has to do with the fact MPD scrobbles the recording ID and last.fm has the wrong name stored
2013-08-23 23535, 2013
kepstin-laptop
the transliteration is probably because you have the 'fix my tags' option enabled on last.fm
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kepstin-laptop
if you turn that off, it should unfix your tags
2013-08-23 23547, 2013
kuno
ianmcorvidae: not being able to get an MBID out of .m4a files.
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ianmcorvidae
oh, do they have an actual option now
2013-08-23 23557, 2013
ianmcorvidae
kuno: oh, yeah
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kepstin-laptop
ianmcorvidae: huh, it's two separate options now. There's "translate artist names" and "auto-correct spelling" and you want to disable both :)
2013-08-23 23501, 2013
ianmcorvidae
yeah; only the auto-correct one was on
2013-08-23 23506, 2013
ianmcorvidae
we'll see if it works after this scrobble
2013-08-23 23552, 2013
kepstin-laptop
my last.fm history has some horrible misencoded messes thanks to an accident with my ipod scrobbler :(
2013-08-23 23510, 2013
kepstin-laptop
interpreted utf-8 as latin1 one time when I was submitting a backlog
2013-08-23 23556, 2013
ianmcorvidae
heh, nope, didn't fix it
2013-08-23 23502, 2013
ianmcorvidae
it's the MBID thing, I suspect
2013-08-23 23531, 2013
ianmcorvidae switches to weekly replication packets, this is the first chance I've had to actually test them properly :D
2013-08-23 23535, 2013
kepstin-laptop
hmm, the mbid stuff should only be turned on if auto-correct is enabled
2013-08-23 23543, 2013
kepstin-laptop
maybe give it an hour or two to propagate the setting ;)
2013-08-23 23549, 2013
ianmcorvidae
yeah, possibly
2013-08-23 23501, 2013
ianmcorvidae
heh, 808451 rows in dbmirror_pending
2013-08-23 23514, 2013
kepstin-laptop
so, no decision on how to store track mbids in files yet? :)
2013-08-23 23523, 2013
ianmcorvidae
not that I've seen
2013-08-23 23543, 2013
kepstin-laptop
right, so MUSICBRAINZ_ELEPHANTID it is, right? ;)
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ianmcorvidae
'course I was always fine with "the current tag is broken anyway, so let's call track IDs track IDs and recording IDs recording IDs", but I guess others aren't :P
2013-08-23 23522, 2013
kepstin-laptop would want to scrobble real track ids anyways rather than recording ids.
2013-08-23 23509, 2013
kepstin-laptop
since track ids have a superset of the info of recording ids :)
2013-08-23 23515, 2013
ianmcorvidae
yeah, exactly
2013-08-23 23551, 2013
ianmcorvidae
I mean, there's an argument for "people who consume MBIDs should resolve their type themselves" but that's maybe not something we can impose :P
2013-08-23 23524, 2013
kepstin-laptop
would be helpful if we had a webservice that let you resolve the type of an arbitrary mbid :)
2013-08-23 23531, 2013
ianmcorvidae
(certainly not without a non-internal webservice for that)
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ianmcorvidae
ocharles: assuming you're still up, I'm getting lots of emails failing to send to logster [at asterix]
2013-08-23 23533, 2013
ianmcorvidae
ocharles: I assume this is related to something you're doing, so in case you aren't aware