#musicbrainz-devel

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      • luks
        JonnyJD: is it expected that python-discid needs discid.dll when running setup.py?
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      • nikki
        moin ruaok
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      • ruaok
        moin
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      • ruaok
        got the invoices. right-on-time.
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      • nikki
        I was wondering the other day about echoprint.mb.org since someone linked to it on twitter for some reason (to a page that crashes, for that matter)
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      • nikki
        is that one of our servers?
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      • ruaok
        yes.
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      • nikki
        wouldn't we be better off using it for something more useful?
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      • ruaok
        it underpowered, software raid, not backedup, not a our facility.
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      • ruaok
        if you have a good use for that let me knwo.
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      • nikki
        could try using it for a test server, since we still don't have one of those
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      • nikki
        what happened with the server jenkins was on btw? last I heard it was in the fridge
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      • ruaok
        the mac mini has been fixed, by my friend has been unable to get a software raid installation on it.
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      • ruaok
        and he's really busy. :(
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      • ocharles
        good morning
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      • ruaok
        morning, ocharles
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      • ruaok
        woah. everyone sent in their invoices on time.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        occasionally we keep everyone on their toes by acting like we know what we're doing :P
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      • ruaok
        its working. :)
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      • ruaok
        but its also nice for me. that means I can deal with all the money BS today.
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      • nikki
        thank reo for reminding me :P
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      • ruaok
        two two were three minutes apart in sending them.
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      • nikki
        probably because we were doing them at the same time :P
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      • JonnyJD
        luks: yes, because installing should already test if everything works
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      • JonnyJD
        I could possibly decouple testing and installing more, though
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      • JonnyJD
        either way "setup.py test" will need discid.dll, otherwise there is nothing to test
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      • JonnyJD
        discid.dll doesn't necessarily need to be installed system-wide though. Having it in the current directory should work, too.
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      • luks
        JonnyJD: having it in the current directly doesn't work if you use pip
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      • luks
        I had to explicitly set path to the current directory from where I run pip
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      • JonnyJD
        yes, because of the virtual environment, I guess
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      • JonnyJD
        probably not that "virtual" at default, but using stuff in local directory is not what pip wants, I guess
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      • JonnyJD
        this is about the picard installation instructions, I guess?
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      • ocharles
        VAT faff
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      • ocharles kicks off a data import and goes to get some sushi
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      • luks
        JonnyJD: yes, I'm setting up daily picard builds and this surprised me
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      • JonnyJD
        luks: if actually mock the loading of discid in the config.py for sphinx
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      • JonnyJD
        luks: in doc/conf.py is the whole mocking code, ca. 5 lines
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      • luks
        well, I'm just setting PATH, so it's not a problem for me anymore
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      • luks
        but I'm not sure if it's a good default behavior
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      • JonnyJD
        well, since the whole point of disicid is to load libdiscid and use it. I didn't see any point in decoupling loading of discid.dll further
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      • JonnyJD
        as in: better fail early than having others to check for any load errors on every use
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      • JonnyJD
        (or having a separate init() or load())
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      • sv2241
        hi. anyone available to help me with something?
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      • kuno
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      • ruaok
        kuno: :)
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      • ocharles
        Oh good, my laptop turned off during the import
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      • ocharles sighs
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      • sv2241
        I'm trying to correct id3 tags of several compilation albums. although the compilation albums contain all the files and correspond with the listing of MB DB, i always get just one file with the melody/tune icon while all the others have solid green icons
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      • sv2241
        I don't know what the heck that icon means since I couldn't find any reference of it in the documentation. it appears as its ID3 tag match 100% MBDB but when adding the album to iTunes, that file moves onto a different folder under ../Various Artists/<Album_Name> rather than with all the others in ../Compilations/<Album_Name>
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      • kuno
        sv2241: I think the tune icon means there is no file associated with that track on the release. picard may have put the file under a different release or perhaps hasn't matched it at all (in which case it should still be in the left pane).
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      • kuno
        you'll have to find the file in picard and drag it to the correct place.
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      • sv2241
        that makes sense and it did work. thanks
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      • sv2241
        another annoyance is after matching the albums and moving the files to iTunes library ("Keep iTunes Media folder organized" unchecked and "Copy files to iTunes Media folder when adding to library checked")
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      • sv2241
        File - Add Folder to Library
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      • sv2241
        iTunes always truncated files when copying them to its library
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      • sv2241
        is there any way to avoid that?
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      • Freso
        ... why are we discussing this in -devel?
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      • sv2241
        no need to get jumpy. I'll move to main
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      • Freso
        Well, it's no problem. It might be a perfectly valid -devel discussion and I just missed the context. :)
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      • ruaok
        jumpy is freso's natural state of being. tis ok sv2241
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      • Freso
        Haha.
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      • reosarevok
        In a literal sense, too
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      • Freso
        you could add "literally" to that sentence, I guess.
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      • reosarevok
        Jumpy and dancey
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: :p
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      • Sebastinas
        adhawkins-away: Hi. Regarding libcoverart: Do you plan to release a new version with the XML parser fix any time soon or should I go ahead and upload a git snapshot to Debian?
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      • ocharles
        It seems that creating primary keys now causes this laptop to overheat
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      • ocharles
        bring on next monday when the new laptop arrives :/
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      • ruaok goes about ordering a cake
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      • ocharles
        :)
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      • ruaok
        sadly, I see more "cakes" in my future.
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      • ocharles
        Will you be eventually substituting sugar for razer blades too?
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      • ocharles
        Or is that for the 10th anniversity? :p
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      • ocharles
        Actually, it'll probably backfire. I imagine they will miss delivery and never collect it from the depo
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      • ocharles
        Despite regular emails reminding them
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      • ruaok
        and simple audio just backed out of their contract with us.
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      • ruaok
        without ever fucking notifying us.
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      • ocharles
        did they hold a contract with us before?
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      • ruaok
        I'll have to reread that contract and see what I can do.
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      • ruaok
        yeah.
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      • ruaok
        for one year commercial web service.
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      • ruaok
        but apparently that entire team got shit canned.
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      • ocharles
        ouch
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      • ruaok
        ok, time to skype the bakery.
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      • ruaok
        bakery dude: I'm really happy that we get to help in this.
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      • ruaok
        :-D
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      • ruaok
        and amazon is jittery. they just emailed to confirm the wire payments had been received.
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      • ruaok
        nope, they have not.
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      • ruaok
        where should the cake go to?
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      • hawke_
        I like cake.
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      • ocharles
        I half feel like it should be vaguely addressed for maximum chaos/exposure
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      • ocharles
        "Department of Unpaid Invoices"
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      • ruaok
        damn, lol
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      • ocharles
        but then there's a risk they literally won't get it :(
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      • ruaok
        oh, they will.
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      • ruaok
        I have a personal friend who will deliver it.
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      • ocharles
        :)
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      • ruaok
        the bakery dude was asking: "What cake do you want?"
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      • ruaok
        me: matters not. No one is going to eat this. Just use whatever is getting old on your shelves that needs to be used.
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      • ruaok
        him: LOL
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      • ruaok
        he will personally send me a picture of the cake when its done tomorrow. about 24 hours from now.
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      • ruaok
        ok, now onward to not be guilty of the same thing: time to order some wire transfers.
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      • JonnyJD
        alastairp and others interested in musicbrainzngs: I would like some feedback on https://github.com/alastair/python-musicbrainzngs… (allow using the json WS instead of the XML WS)
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      • JonnyJD
        especially since the json returned is at a different level than the json we return when using the XML WS
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      • JonnyJD
        example: with the xml WS we return {"release": {<actual-info>} } while json only returns {<actual-info>} (unless we do something about it)
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      • alastairp
        yeah
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      • alastairp
        unfortunately changing xml kind of has to wait until api-change
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      • alastairp
        I'm busy until next year
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      • alastairp
        but I'd be happy to add it in as an unsupported feature with a warning "this returns different data"
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      • ijabz
        JonnyJD fwiw noting your comments there is an internal json format that does mimic the xml for search at least
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      • ijabz
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      • JonnyJD
        alastairp: so basically telling that the output of the json format is subject to change?
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      • alastairp
        more telling that it's different than the regular output
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      • alastairp
        check with kuno too, I'm not sure if the json is finalised
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      • alastairp
        ijabz: cool. we could hook into that too