#musicbrainz-devel

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      • Freso
        What's the mm.mb.o subdomain for?

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      • Freso
        ianmcorvidae ruaok: ^

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      • warp
        Freso: I think that was the base domain used for the MusicBrainz Metadata ontology, in the old RDF webservice.

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      • Freso
        warp: So it shouldn't be used anymore, right?

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      • Freso is poking at morituri's code, updating its MB links

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      • warp
        Freso: correct, mm.musicbrainz.org should not be used anymore for anything.

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      • warp
        (and that has been true since the v1 webservice I guess :)

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      • Freso
        I'm guessing some of morituri's codebase is pretty darn old. :)

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      • warp
        Freso: http://blog.ldodds.com/2004/03/29/musicbrainz-rdf…

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      • ruaok
        yep. old skool.

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      • Freso
        The code is also referring to python-musicbrainz2's examples dir...

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      • Freso
        https://github.com/thomasvs/morituri/pull/97

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      • JesseW
        alastairp: what's the plan for generating the high-level acousticbrainz data?

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      • ianmcorvidae
        JesseW: it's generated from the low-level data, as I understand it, so it should be happening server-side

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      • ianmcorvidae
        (or so the pull request for acousticbrainz-server I reviewed would suggest, anyway)

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      • JesseW
        ianmcorvidae: I know that, but AFAIK, it isn't being generated *yet* -- and I wondered what the plans were, if any.

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      • ianmcorvidae
        presumably getting something that generates it then starting it :)

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      • JesseW
        ianmcorvidae: heh. presumably using Essentia...

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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah -- it's just waiting for the appropriate code to be finalized and a binary made

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      • ianmcorvidae
        (https://github.com/metabrainz/acousticbrainz-serv… if you're curious, re: how it's done

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      • ianmcorvidae
        )

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      • JesseW
        thanks

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      • ianmcorvidae
        (aside from the actual details of the calculation via essentia, given we're waiting on that)

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      • JesseW
        yeah, that's what I'm wondering about the estimated schedule for (if any)

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      • JonnyJD
        Freso: mm.mb.o is not unused for as long as you might thing. Until libdiscid 0.6.0 it was still used: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/LIB-53

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      • nikki
        it's not used for anything, it just redirects to the main server

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      • JonnyJD
        nikki: redirection *is* a use

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      • nikki
        no it's not

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      • JonnyJD
        like, if you would kill that redirection it would break

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      • nikki
        *other* people use it, sure, because their code is ancient

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      • nikki
        but *we* don't

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      • JonnyJD
        like I said, libdiscid was using that server until 2013 (libdiscid < 0.6.0)

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      • nikki
        by we I mean musicbrainz does not run anything on there, it's not even a server, it's just a redirect

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      • nikki
        other things are things that use musicbrainz, like libdiscid

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      • nikki
        just like ngs.musicbrainz.org and www.musicbrainz.org are redirects

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      • JonnyJD
        well yeah, apart from we have different definitions for "use", MusicBrainz doesn't do anything special at that "server" at all

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      • JonnyJD
        yep

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      • MBJenkins
        Ian McEwen: MBS-7962: rewriting of wikidoc links needed updating for schema-independent links

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      • JesseW
        anyone remember the proper url parameters to pre-load artist gender?

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      • nikki
        it's whatever the field name is

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      • nikki
        so probably something like edit-artist.gender

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      • nikki
        (might have _id at the end, I can't be bothered to go check :P)

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      • ariscop
        how feasible would it be to have a recording<->medium relation?

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      • nikki
        it would involve quite a bit of work since it would be a schema change

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      • JesseW
        niki -- thanks!

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      • nikki
        what do you want a recording-medium relationship for anyway?

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      • ariscop
        nikki, tracklists for dj mixes

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      • nikki
        I'm not sure medium relationships are the best option there anyway, since there are can be multiple on a single medium

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      • nikki
        -are

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      • nikki
        the way I'd probably do it (also quite a bit of work :/) would be to make it possible to link multiple recordings in a single relationship

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      • ariscop
        that's more or less what a medium is though

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      • JesseW
        the field name is id-edit-artist.gender_id -- but it doesn't seem to work. Does it need to be a POSTed form?

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      • nikki
        that's the id, not the name

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      • JesseW
        ah, good point

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      • JesseW
        the name doesn't have the initial id- on it

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      • JesseW
        let me try that one

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      • nikki
        there's quite a few things where being able to link more than two things would be useful though, whereas dj-mixes are the only thing people ever seem to mention for mediums (and as I said, it's not even the best solution)

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      • nikki
        yeah

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      • ariscop
        actually yeah, that might be better

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      • ariscop
        https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Podcast proposes about the same, but it means duplicating track; also needs it's own kind of relation (recording, recording, timestamp)

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      • ariscop
        well, the relation would be the duplication of track/medium

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      • JesseW
        What is the "Defaults" section mean when editing reports on http://reports.mbsandbox.org ?

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      • JesseW
        Does it allow for parameterized reports, or something else?

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      • ianmcorvidae
        parameterized reports

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      • ianmcorvidae
        via URL parameters

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      • ianmcorvidae
        it's under-documented :P my fault, as usual, but anyway

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      • JesseW
        neat.

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      • JesseW
        ianmcorvidae: is there an example?

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      • ianmcorvidae
        http://reports.mbsandbox.org/report/213 uses it

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      • ianmcorvidae
        the defaults field for that one is {"series": "624570a2-b0b4-4b95-aedf-723ee75913e0", "artist": "0e85eb79-1c05-44ba-827c-7b259a3d941a"}

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      • JesseW
        and it is used in the sql like: %(series)s ?

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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah -- you can override it with URL parameters, if they're not provided the defaults are used

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      • JesseW
        nice

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      • JesseW
        I have a use for that right now.

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      • JesseW
        and I've finished my report which uses parameters. Yay! (see my comments in

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      • JesseW
        #musicbrainz)

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      • MBJenkins
        Project musicbrainz-server_schema-change-2014-q4 build #41: STILL FAILING in 11 min: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-server_…

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      • MBJenkins
        Michael Wiencek: Fix Controller::UnconfirmedEmailAddresses for tag changes

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      • MBJenkins
        Ian McEwen: Add is_data_track pieces to Edit::Medium::Create

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      • JesseW
        ianmcorvidae: http://reports.mbsandbox.org/report/267/view?fnam… -- this probably shouldn't throw a Internal Server Error...

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      • ianmcorvidae
        presumably the unicode stuff, since python is stupid

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      • JesseW
        ianmcorvidae: presumably. :-)

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      • JesseW
        ianmcorvidae: I just suspect it's not something I can fix as a mere user of reports.mbsandbox.org

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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, probably not XD

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      • ianmcorvidae
        meh

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      • ianmcorvidae
        don't care enough about fighting with python's stupid unicode handling right now, so I'll maybe look into it later, if you could file a bug then I can try to keep track

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      • JesseW
        ianmcorvidae: makes sense. I'll try to remember to file a bug. :-)

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      • ianmcorvidae
        my github, mb-reportstool (it's not an official MB project)

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      • nikki
        https://github.com/ianmcorvidae/mb-reportstool/is… :P

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      • nikki
        you could add a link to github from it

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      • JesseW
        that helps :-)

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      • JesseW
        https://github.com/ianmcorvidae/mb-reportstool/is…

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      • JesseW
        any suggestions on a simple way to make a parameter *required* (i.e. show an error message when the report is clicked on from the main page)?

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      • MBJenkins
        Ian McEwen: Add more is_data_track => 0 to tests.

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      • ianmcorvidae
        yay! finally done with all the ones that crashed the tests so it didn't run them all

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        Michael Wiencek: Test page for unused tags correctly

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      • Freso
        ianmcorvidae: Thanks for the PR comments! I'll get those updated as well. :)

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      • Freso
        alastairp: What's holding back the .travis.yml for abz-client?

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      • alastairp
        ruaok: do you have a spoke tool?

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      • alastairp
        Freso: 1) my general disklike of travis, 2) the fact that it's the weekend

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      • ruaok
        alastairp: probably not. I gave away my truing stand and thus that likely went with it.

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      • Freso
        alastairp: Eh. It's been around for over a week, so 2) doesn't really apply.

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      • Freso
        Also, what's wrong with Travis?

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      • alastairp
        ruaok: ok, thanks. I had a ding yesterday. I;ll have to take it to a workshop

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      • ruaok
        :(

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      • ruaok
        I’m too dyslexic to fix such problems.

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      • alastairp
        I replaced a few spokes on my canada junker

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      • alastairp
        a few times

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      • alastairp
        it's OK. I went to my locxal shop on friday. they're really nice,and only a block away

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        502s are back

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