#musicbrainz-devel

Freso has changed the topic to: HOT week | http://musicbrainz.org/#devel | agenda: reviews, Schwag/OTHER-66 (ruaok), github (missing repos, url stability, anything else?), band bios on our wiki (nikki), translation sorting stuff (catcat), Freso account on ci.mb.o (Freso)

who wants to start?

you were hassled?

I can go

go ianmcorvidae

I did a chunk of stuff with geordi; it's not on MB hosting at http://geordi.musicbrainz.org

s/not/now/ ?

and includes some fun things like a release importer :)

er, yes, now :)

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that server still needs a bit of setup, since I see djce's here I'll mention :) but anyway

nice nice nice

I also have been getting mb-chat-logger ready to become our main logger

ianmcorvidae: \o/

awesome.

with some nice help/fire-lighting from Freso :)

djce: we're pushing to get rid of scooby before I leave.

on that note - how much more is still to go?

wow. Not long then.

needs a built in ignore for nikki though :P

ocharles: most of it.

ok

blog is going to happen soon.

so I think that probably covers most of what I've worked on, various discussions and such too

but anyway, that's all :)

ianmcorvidae: great, thanks.

geordi is looking really good.

well crafted towards our users. :)

I'll continue working to find us more data sets.

who is next?

i can go

go

I had a bit of an upside down week, but when I did get work done - I made some really good progress

on monday I added full relationship support to NES, but I guess I mentioned that last week

since then I've also added CD TOCs to releases

On tuesday I was doing lock fire fighting, but somewhat ironically, the building set on fire

is that ironic? probably not, but whatever :P I lost half a day cause of that

Today I did a release and some code review stuff, and then got back to NES. I've opened https://trello.com/board/musicbrainz-nes/50f408...

now that the majority of work is in musicbrainz-server, I wanted to start doing what we did for NGS - tracking unknowns

so this trello board is for me to anchor myself on what needs to be done and generally have a slightly more public todo list (previously it was on a private Remember the Milk list)

Today I created my first work through musicbrainz-server in NES, so finally making some head way there

fin.

warp?

I spent a bit of time on a second attempt to get beta.musicbrainz.org running off pino

ianmcorvidae and I attempted a switch, but that ended badly because of some proxying issues.

I haven't done any work on that since, so beta is still on hobbes now.

I also spent way too much time with nagios and chef. I seemed to be wrapping stuff up, but I keep hitting issues with chef.

ocharles pointed out that I'm probably trying to do stuff with it it was never designed to do. so I just need to script some parts of it, either with fabric I guess or just plain shell.

it's mostly done in the sense that I can deploy to osuosl, checks are running, https:// is set up and mail is set up. but the deployment itself is fragile.

other that than I also spent some time on tickets, some updates to previous tickets because of feedback from code review

and some JSON webservice bugfixes

that's about it.

k.

my week involved paying attention to the search servers.

trying to get them to be more stable.

and I really have to say that I love nginx.

since its so resilient it actually hides some problems with the search server.

so I'm looking at logs trying to hunt down problems.

I've installed the jdk so now I can start memory debugging.

hopefully we can knock this one on the head soon

I also had to disable the stats collection, since everytime that was invoked the search servers stop responding.

ocharles: yes. but every since I installed monit, thigns have been stable.

wait, as in musicbrainz.statistics?

but that is band-aids on band-aids. ;)

no.

phew :)

as in what types of queries is the search server handling.

gotcha

they are so critical to our usage, that we have NO idea where they are being displayed.

:P

:)

so NOT critical at all.

one of the things that I want to do for moving off scooby is to investigate modern stats collectiong/logging/graphing tools.

graphite all the things!

I think a lot of thing have improved since djce first set things up.

kepstin-work: yep.

ocharles: yep.

sins of the past, baby

djce: all good -- you made it work. so essential to operations. :)

I'm considering copying 7digital for some musicbrainz-data stuff

they use rabbitmq to emit a load of messages in production, that basically get routed to /dev/null

so, once we put some other issues to bed (nagios, blog, chatlogger) lets play with graphing/monitoring stuff

When stuff goes wrong, they just fire up a debug app, and it listens to all the debug traces

very cool :)

interesting.

on the business side of things, there are now three contracts out for data licenses.

including a new company called Axwave.

luks has chatted a little with them as well.

they are doing stream based acoustic id.

and they would like to fit into MB in a similar fashion to how acoustid fits into MB.

they also want to kick start MovieBrainz.

Oooh

nice!

before too long one of their developers will turn up here and show us their tech.

I basically said to them that they need to win you guys over, not me.

so, show us working code, is the first rally cry.

ruaok: “similar fashion” meaning third-party site that references MBIDs?

I would like them to turn up with a github project for everyone to prod.

hawke_1: yep.

Nifty.

and I've asked them to take a data license in order to support us and they said: "Sure".

so, lets hope that comes to pass.

also, I would like to get the changed-id feed to get moving on.

I've sort of been stuck at a loss for how to add tests to this code.

How does that fit in with potential MovieBrainz? What do they want out of that (I assume they want something)

and rather than hanging up on the tests for much longer I am going to deploy this into an alpha state, so we can at least start prodding it.

hawke_1: they business model is focused on selling movies and music via their recognition apps.

and they really need moviebrainz to underpin that.

and they are willing to follow essentially the same model as what we have with MB.

of course, all of this is talk for now.

we need to see how things really shake out.

finally, I spent a some time talking to callerno26 and freso about musicbottle and how to deal with corporate partnerships.

lots to do on that front. :)

*CallerNo6

ok, thats it for me.

Freso: inflation is a bitch. :)

:p

I can go real quick:

go

I talked with ruaok about corporate partnerships and MusicBottle

I helped push ianmcorvidae into finished mb-chat-logger

I moved stuff from *.mb.o to GitHub for MBo. (And worked a little bit on some code in some branches too, but not much.)

EOF.

ok, who else for review?

anything from you djce?

onward then.

Schwag/IOTHER-66.

we have a schwag store, but its poorly organized.

poorly everything.

we really either need to: shut it down and make it go away, or make it suck less.

does anybody buy something from there?

luks: not currently.

so, the question is this: Do we care? and if we do, we need to find someone to volunteer to run the store.

does anyone care?

right.

vaguely

:P

I care about stickers, but I think that may be all anyone cares about

I'll add a ticket to remove the link from the site and I will shut down the store.

i care about stickers and maybe t-shirts

but that's it for me

its been languishing for too long.

i guess a musicbrainz mug wouldn't be bad either :P

+1 to all of those.